why pe doesnt work for everyone

[MrPriapus]

Dude, I never said it didn't work. I said that the gains claimed on here are normally suspicious. If you feel good about it, great. I don't care whether you've gained or not, but I'm happy that whatever you're doing, you and your girlfriend are happy with.

[BigO]

Not true, most bodybuilder have natural physical frames that allow them to put on that muscle (ie. mesomorph, ectomorph, endomorph). Those who do not, along with even those who do, take testosterone enhancing drugs (steroids and derivatives) that help them reach those peaks. It is more than a matter of drive for some people. Do you think people who play professional sports just outworked everyone around them. Some people will gain easier than others (I've seen many posts where people have gone for years with consistent routine and gained little nothing with PE), some people have a bigger penis than others, its just the way the dice roll in life. You say you're not judging people, but you are, when you say people who can't gain lack the drive to do so.

Being a person who has always been naturally muscular, I get comments from men ALLL the time about what I do and what I take, and I'm normally at a loss for words, because I don't really take anything, and my gym schedule is circumstantial at best. I've just been blessed genetically, and no matter what some people do they will never have a body like mine. Believe me, I've tried to get people there, and without extreme measures it's just not possible. This is why I am making this point.

So true. I have always gained muscle easily even in my party days.

[Steneo]

I've been waiting for an opportunity to talk about this...it does seem there are people who try many things, assert that they did everything correctly, and still don't gain.

I've seen many make the argument that the laws of physics require these techniques to work for everybody. That is, you apply a force to an object and the object must respond, in this case by getting bigger. If it works for some it must work for all "because the penis obeys the laws of physics". You can get the same argument from an engineering/mechanical/material science perspective too - apply a force and the material must respond.

Yes, it's true that the penis obeys the laws of physics but the missing piece from this argument is that it obeys the laws of physics through the lens of biology. This explains why people can respond so vastly differently to the same force. Think about it, we are not talking about a uniform material which predictably responds to force. EVERY single penis here is different in their composition. Quite similar, of course, we are all the same species, but not the same.

One could then make the argument that, ok, then those people just need more or different force. For some, this may work, if an extender does not result in gains, increase the force by hanging. If jelqs don't give girth, proceed to more advanced exercises to increase force. BUT, for some people, it may also be the case that the amount or type of force required (due to their individual biology) exceeds a safety threshold. That is, the amount or type of force needed is so great or so bizarre that they cannot do it without breaking their dick. I really think this is true and I think it should be understood up front that this may not work for everybody, just like it is understood up front that all these activities carry inherent risk of injury.

[averagedick]

I respect your point, but I only used the bodybuilder as an example. Top athletes and top bodybuilders etc are genetically blessed. But that still doesnt mean that for the rest of us who arent blessed this way that with time and effort we cant make ourselves better at whatever we choose to do. Im not saying everyone will gain three inches just by being dedicated and pushing themselves I wish that was true. What im saying is if you push yourself to be better and have desire to be better you will be better. Im not saying youll be the best but I guarantee you or anyone else can be better. The whole point of this thread is that it takes more than a physical approach to achieve this it takes dedication and desire to reach your potential

[Dangler]

There are different ways pe can work, for an individual.

• Helping with ED
• Improving Erection Quality
• Improving PI's ( Physiologic Indicators (PIs) to Help Penis Growth! )
• Girth
• Length
• Any combination of the above.

[averagedick]

Not true. Genetics has an awful lot to do with body building and success. Not everyone can get that kind of build.

Many guys have very dedicated routines and will never be able to build that physique even if they do everything correctly.

Same with PE. Many do quit but many try very hard with little success.

Genetics of course plays a part, thats why some people gain one inch and some gain half an inch. Some people will take two years to get there some might take three. I think though that everyone who has the dedication to stick by it have the potential to grow wether it be by a big ammount or a small amount.

[samsi4life]

Well i know gaining and thats all the proof i need. Do you think there would be these many guys on a free site swapping info if it never worked for anyone why would thousands of us hardcore PEers doin what we do... besides check my albums since extending i update the photos everymonth and have seen increases in BPEL gains and yes i use the same spot when measuring amd.dont thurat my hips outward lol im not insecure

[MrPriapus]

lol, why would millions of men buy penis enlargement products from porn sites? Irrational Exuberance.

No, I believe people can gain from PE, but it's not the overwhelming evidence that is promoted on this forum and PE product websites. Look at the photo of the two cucumbers in DennyA's post. Can you tell me that you've seen someone post pictures of such obviously substantial gains. Yet, these are the claims people constantly make.

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I'm with DennyA on this one. PE works, and it is a great tool for self-enhancement, but it's not going to send you to the moon.

[cm79]

Basic biology.

It's like saying "all people can run the 100 metres in 12 seconds, if they train hard enough"

You know, most people would never be able to run the 100 metres in 12 seconds, even if they trained for 10 years

[cm79]

And you're six pac argument is also very good.

I actually decided a few years ago I was going to get super fit.

I went on a strict, macrobiotic diet. I didn't eat any bad sugar or processed fats for a number of year. I lived like saint.

I went to the gym at least 5 times a week. Doing very tough training.

I jogged to and from work, every day, Which was over 5 miles running per day.

I regularly ran 10kms at weekends.

I did hundreds of sit ups, crunches, ever night.

My weight went from about 170 right down to 115.

You know what? I wasn't close to getting a six pac! I maybe had 2 abs visible.

And I know guys who don't train at all. They're lazy, and just party. Yet they have perfect bodies and perfect six pacs. They just get that from doing a few push ups and sit ups every night.

This stuff is all biology.

Some people will be genetically designed to excel at it. And some people will not