I don't understand why there are no small members?

**petrelli** · 01-17-2014

Originally Posted by CaptAbe

Yep, JP90 for my gains, I have gotten slight flaccid gains, nothing to jump for joy over, but slightly plumper with a tad more hang.

~Abe

Nice.

I'm only 1 week into JP90 and I really REALLY hope I see some gains after a few months even if minimal. However I have been reading that initial gains are nothing more than higher EQ...

**almightycrunch** · 01-17-2014

And if the gains are only in EQ, is there any difference????? a bigger unit is a bigger unit correct??????

**petrelli** · 01-17-2014

Originally Posted by almightycrunch

And if the gains are only in EQ, is there any difference????? a bigger unit is a bigger unit correct??????

I guess so. However I'm hoping that PE also increases your size regardless of EQ. Especially when talking about flaccid length I assume that EQ is irrelevant.

**kirkoloft** · 01-17-2014

Originally Posted by petrelli

Nice.

I'm only 1 week into JP90 and I really REALLY hope I see some gains after a few months even if minimal. However I have been reading that initial gains are nothing more than higher EQ...

If yuo only measure EL, you will never know whether it's EQ or actual growth(in ligaments or tunica). That's why it is also crucial to measure BPFSL. I gained almost 1" in BPFSL in less than 3 months. You see, that's real gain, not just EQ.

**petrelli** · 01-17-2014

Originally Posted by kirkoloft

If yuo only measure EL, you will never know whether it's EQ or actual growth(in ligaments or tunica). That's why it is also crucial to measure BPFSL. I gained almost 1" in BPFSL in less than 3 months. You see, that's real gain, not just EQ.

Noted! Thanks.

Just not sure how far to stretch for this measurement.. there shouldn't be pain i assume.

**kirkoloft** · 01-17-2014

Originally Posted by petrelli

Noted! Thanks.

Just not sure how far to stretch for this measurement.. there shouldn't be pain i assume.

As far as physically possible. I can assure you that there is no pain involved.

**IronMonkey** · 01-17-2014

Just to chime in, I started at 4.5 BPEL and 4.4ish MSEG. Now I am at 5.75 BPEL and 4.65 MSEG consistently as of this week. So that is a small to average transition. So any smaller men thinking they are alone in their PE journey, you are not. It feels awesome to gain and continue to gain. And we who started smaller and those who didn't are here for you if you need any help.

By the way a nice hydro pump gets me to around 5.2 inches girth and around 6+ inches length before sex. If you don't mind being so deceptive to your partner about your size

I will pump whenever I can before an encounter with my wife. She hasn't had any complaints about it yet.

**Nachos87** · 01-17-2014

Hi

**samsi4life** · 01-17-2014

Originally Posted by experimentor

Check my signature.. I'm still trying to figure out what portion of my gains were due to weight loss and EQ gains rather than actual PE work, but I was at 4.5 in BP ERECT length not too long ago and now I'm 6.75.

To my credit, i did lose approx. 75 pounds, but BPEL isn't supposed to be affected by loss of fat pad.

Now I just want to get to 7.5 NBPEL x 5 - 5.25 EG.

My girth is 4-1/8 below the head, 4-3/8 mid & 4-5or6/8 at the base, and I'm currently experimenting with a purely jelqing routine to sort of reset my dick to the intense workouts i'm about to go through.

Feel free to PM me if you have any ?s, comments or just want some advice on the benefits of PE.

I used to be scared to pull my dick out and because of PE, I'm not anymore.

Congrats on the gains bro

**derocker** · 01-17-2014

I am small, and had no success at all with PE in 2 and a half years... most small people either aren't member of this forum, or don't make many posts...

I could also say that some people used to small and aren't anymore, but since I'm starting to believe that PE is just one big lie, I'm not sure if I'll say that.