Light vs firm jelqing grip, does it matter

**rbi99** · 04-30-2014

Anyone who knows me on this forum knows that I am a strong believer in jelqing with a very firm grip. My main reason for this is because the firmer the grip, the less amount of blood is able to escape behind the grip. This leads to greater cell expansion in my opinion. Today however, I was thinking about this and I think I might be changing my mind a little on this. I will still use a very firm grip - that hasn't changed - but a light grip might just work as well.

We often try to compare weight lifting to PE, sometimes it works, often times it does not. This might be another example of does not. I would equate heavier weights when lifting to a firmer grip. Heavy weights, low reps leads to more strength and muscle compared to lighter weights more reps which is more of a toning exercise. But that thinking might be faulty regarding PE. I believe that the more fatigued your smooth muscles cells get through jelqing, the better your results will be regarding girth gains. I believed that those cells get more fatigued with a firmer grip then a lighter one. However, the key here is cell fatigue. Most of us know that skeletal muscle and smooth muscle adapt differently to stress over time; skeletal muscle cells tear and repair, smooth muscle cells divide through mitosis. The key for those smooth muscle cells remains the same in my opinion - fatigue - but getting there can be accomplished perhaps in more than one way.

The benefit now that I see in using a firm grip is that you fatigue your cells more quickly, thus you can do fewer reps. Fewer reps means less time, and less time for me is a good thing as it frees me up to use that free time for other activities. Also, a shorter routine is easier to maintain then a longer one, and easier to "fit in" with a busy schedule. That being said, someone who uses a soft grip when jelqing can still fatigue his smooth muscle cells, it simply takes more time to accomplish that. A lighter grip has the potential for less chance of injury, but since I have never had one, that caveat does not carry any weight for me.

So this is where I have changed my opinion, where I once thought a firmer grip lead to better gains, I now feel that it might only lead to a shorter jelqing session. As long as the dude using the light grip fatigues his cells, he will see the same gains probably as someone tugging harder on his pride-and-joy. He just has to do it for a longer period of time each session.

**Looking4more** · 04-30-2014

I used to use a tighter grip but found that after doing hundreds of jelqs in my PE sessions, my hand would get tired faster and my penis would get sore during long sessions. I started using a lighter grip and found that I was getting just as good a workout. The lighter grip works great.

**aBone2pick** · 04-30-2014

Were you inspired by my post about the difference between PE and weight lifting in that steroid thread?

I agree with you about this at any rate.

**Dangler** · 04-30-2014

A lighter grip helps those who want to avoid red spots/capillary leakage. Young & conditioned versus older and easier to bruise/get red spot/discoloration can be deciding factors.

**PurpleOnes** · 05-01-2014

I go by the instinct but I have noticed that lighter jelqs are more beneficial for me since I'm able to push blood better to my glans.

I have noticed that mostly my grip tightness has been firmer if I'm having less lube on my penis.

I would say that too firm grip may be not be so effective since it defeats the purpose of pushing the blood towards the glans.

This is just my opinnion though

**thenewdude** · 05-01-2014

It really depends on how erect you are and how long much time your penis has in adapting a to stronger grip. I do use a semi-strong grip but not a first, I worked slowly into a stronger grip with more intensity when my penis was ready for it.
I will agree that you don't need as much lubrication with a stronger grip which in part also helps in promoting more skin and even length cementation because you are pulling some what on the ligaments.
However, I do not endorse this to anyone under six and unconditioned for it to prevent injuries, bruising/burst capillaries(red spot).

**thenewdude** · 05-01-2014

I worked my way into a tighter grip using less lubricate over time because it really does several things a lighter grip can't do.
1. It forces some tension on the ligaments. Great to help cement length while jelging. ++ there.
2. It gives for more of a consistence blood retention while jelging rather than losing some on the stroke.
3. You really have more control with a firmer grip than you do a lighter one but you do want to stroke more slowly.

I do not endorse this to anyone under six months and whose penis is unconditioned for it.

**PurpleOnes** · 05-01-2014

Originally Posted by thenewdude

I worked my way into a tighter grip using less lubricate over time because it really does several things a lighter grip can't do.
1. It forces some tension on the ligaments. Great to help cement length while jelging. ++ there.
2. It gives for more of a consistence blood retention while jelging rather than losing some on the stroke.
3. You really have more control with a firmer grip than you do a lighter one but you do want to stroke more slowly.

I do not endorse this to anyone under six months and whose penis is unconditioned for it.

How firm are we talking here?

Hopefully it stays as a jelq still and doesn't turn into a jelq+stretch type of combo

**danimal1211** · 05-01-2014

Why not jelq+ stretch? At the end of each stroke I stretch it. My thoughts are that its forcing your erect BPEL closer towards your BPFSL. So unlike traditional flaccid stretching blood is being forced into this additional length. I've lightened my grip a little, but I'd still call it a firm grip.

Rbi you bring up a good point about Mitosis. I've been thinking about this ever since I first started reading Stan's log. He does several mini sessions of stretching throughout the day which I feel help better promote Mitosis versus one long session. I've done some additional research on foreskin restoration and this is one of the recommendations of some of the more experienced of this group. Doing quick stretching routines several times throughout the day rather than either one long session or continuous stretching via device. I understand jelquing as well as other girth exercises become the limiting factor here since you need time and privacy, but it works great for stretching.

I've started doing very basic stretches throughout the day in addition to my routine, this is my second week. I had a slight bit of fatigue at the end of last week, but this was the only negative PI. By the end of the week there was a slight difference in how far I stretched and how it eased to that point. I took my normal two days off and was surprised that when I stretched again for the first time, not only had I not lost this stretch gain, but I got a little more. I can't say the stretching is entirely responsible, but my BPFSL stretched an additional 1/8."

edit: I wouldn't expect to gain 1/8" every week. This would be exceptional if it happened every month. I'm still a newbie and this may have been a lig gain that came easily.

**Sean Jacobs** · 05-01-2014

I prefer a tight grip with high erection level because I do short intense routines. However, this has a higher risk of bursting blood vessels. I have to be very conditioned before going really hard. Recently I went to hard too quickly and now I am back to light jelqing and working my way back up to very firm.