Question about PE Research

[heythereog Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close heythereog]

I have lurked this forum on and off for months and I have noticed some avid PE people that seem passionate about this sort of thing. Are there any rumors of anyone planning to conduct actual research on PE to lessen the doubts of skeptics (like myself)? For example, recruiting volunteers who would perform penile exercises and measure them over a given period of time (before and after especially). If there were any significant results, it would be the first of its kind for exercises using only your hands, and it would surely gain attention in the scientific community. Can anyone could get in touch with a credible medical professional that would be willing to conduct this important research in a safe way? Getting volunteers shouldn't be too hard as long as people can be confident in their safety (after all, the end result for them could be a bigger penis. That's a nice incentive).

I've read about people saying that medical professionals wouldn't want to do this because they'd be afraid of the dangers of PE on people. While this may be true for a lot of medical staff, surely there are some interested in performing safe research on this topic. As far fetched as it sounds, it may just take people from this forum to participate in a study themselves if safety is the concern for medical staff, considering that you guys claim to do PE all of the time with no problems.


I want to add that this is NOT meant to spark a debate on whether or not PE is a scam. This thread concerns the possibility of actually conducting scientific research on PE, and the likelihood of that occurring in the near future. It is nice that there is a lot of personal anecdote on this topic, but that is not what I am interested in.

Thoughts?

[rocket50 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close rocket50]

I'm sure there have been small studies somewhere but any credible scientists would probably get hush money to stay away from that kind of research by the big Penis Pill and other Penile enhancement companies. If the info got out that you could increase your penile health as well as even make your penis bigger without using any products, I bet the loss in revenue would be millions.

[heythereog Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close heythereog]

in reply to rocket50-
Not that I don't consider that a possibility, but I honestly don't see it as very likely. If a researcher wants to do some PE research, it's hard to imagine those big companies even finding out about it in the first place. Maybe I'm wrong, but those companies would only find out about it after the research has already been published, which of course would be too late for them to do anything about. I can see how the word could get out about a study if you need a lot of funding for it, but this study costs next to nothing. all you need is hands and penises. However, I can actually see a lack of incentive for people to even conduct research on this area in general, not really so much as them being bribed not to do so. You spend a whole bunch of your time on research but you don't really get a dime out of it. Even if the results show gains, that's pretty much it, researchers can't really make money by figuring out that people can do this on their own. But yes, it will definitely hurt those fake pill companies and others as well. Assuming that their are gains to be found, I might add.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

There have been some small studies but basically there isn't enough money to be made.

[BigO AdministratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close BigO]

We log results here all the time. In my opinion our forums and many others like Bibs hanging forums and Thunder's Place are ongoing research labs.

We are scattered across the world each doing our own individual studies.

My research alone has proven that the penis can be made to be at least 1 1/2 inch longer and 3/4's of an inch thicker.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Published studies performed under "controlled" conditions have been posted here before.

Here are a few links of interest:

Effect of penile-extender device in increasing penile size in men with shortened penis: preliminary results. - PubMed - NCBI

A pilot phase-II prospective study to test the 'efficacy' and tolerability of a penile-extender device in the treatment of 'short penis'. - PubMed - NCBI

Applying Extender Devices in Patients with Penile Dysmorphophobia: Assessment of Tolerability, Efficacy, and Impact on Erectile Function. - PubMed - NCBI

[drfrankencock Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close drfrankencock]

An accurate scientific study would cost millions. Otherwise, just do a meta-analysis on the progress logs.

If anyone wants a conspiracy theory, here's one. EQ improvements are the most commonly experienced gains, and that is bad for pharmaceutical companies. All posts questioning the efficacy of PE are actually created by BigPharma shills who are determined to suppress the evidence!

[kickinthemebs Senior Member Member of the Month Feb 2014 Find all posts View Profile Close kickinthemebs]

Yup, here is a quantitative data analysis for you: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...tml#post985181

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

An accurate scientific study would cost millions. Otherwise, just do a meta-analysis on the progress logs.

If anyone wants a conspiracy theory, here's one. EQ improvements are the most commonly experienced gains, and that is bad for pharmaceutical companies. All posts questioning the efficacy of PE are actually created by BigPharma shills who are determined to suppress the evidence!

EQ improvement and enlargement training should go hand in hand. Consider this interesting admission on wikipedia regarding the most popular stamina exercise- the kegel:

"Exercises are usually done to reduce urinary incontinence, reduce urinary incontinence after childbirth, and reduce premature ejaculatory occurrences in men, as well as to increase the size and intensity of erections ^[6]."

Bold emphasis mine; source: Kegel exercise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Yup, here is a quantitative data analysis for you: https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...tml#post985181

An excellent link

Here's a similar updated client study: https://www.pegym.com/forums/success...g-gainers.html

The above links might not qualify for medically established websites/literature as the assessments were performed by the subjects themselves. That doesn't necessarily invalidate the evidence- it just subjects it to a different level of criteria.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

Hello, thanks for asking. I would ask you to make an appointment with the doctor of your choice, have the doctor measure your penis according to our methods, BPEL, MEG, BEG, BPSFL, and any others you are interested in. Then start the JP90 program, be safe, consistent, persistent, and go to the doctor on a monthly basis and have the doctor track your progress.
Concurrently keep this information on a progress log here on the forums. We will advice you as you progress. Then you will have a medical doctor incentivised to study the efficacy of PE through you paying the bill. Let us know.

[ykm123 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ykm123]

Feel free to follow my 6-Month PE experiment. I have video and pics of my before size available. After pics will be there in 6 months

https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...video-log.html

[drfrankencock Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close drfrankencock]

Hello, thanks for asking. I would ask you to make an appointment with the doctor of your choice, have the doctor measure your penis according to our methods, BPEL, MEG, BEG, BPSFL, and any others you are interested in. Then start the JP90 program, be safe, consistent, persistent, and go to the doctor on a monthly basis and have the doctor track your progress.
Concurrently keep this information on a progress log here on the forums. We will advice you as you progress. Then you will have a medical doctor incentivised to study the efficacy of PE through you paying the bill. Let us know.

This is where things get complicated. You need to find a doctor that will cooperate, and they'll need to create a chemically induced erection in order to get a true measurement. I doubt you could even find a legitimate medical doctor who is willing to do this.

[ykm123 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ykm123]

This is where things get complicated. You need to find a doctor that will cooperate, and they'll need to create a chemically induced erection in order to get a true measurement. I doubt you could even find a legitimate medical doctor who is willing to do this.

Well if someone really wanted to pay an MD to advise and oversee the study they could find one somewhere. Medical Doctors are normal people and some of them for sure would be interested. If the could be part of a team that undoubtedly proved PE works there could be a profit return for them if they went about it right.

I think it would be tougher to find the person to pay the doctor.

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

This is where things get complicated. You need to find a doctor that will cooperate, and they'll need to create a chemically induced erection in order to get a true measurement. I doubt you could even find a legitimate medical doctor who is willing to do this.

Or Just like at a sperm bank they could allow the patient to take matters into their own hands, or partners mouth?