Is Length Actually Worth It....

[codliver Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close codliver]

So I've been debating for a while over getting an extender to increase length but I'm not entirely sure if I even want to -- let me explain:

I've seen enough dicks in porn to come to the conclusion that besides my average length my dick is otherwise perfect for fucking.

1. It's 5.5" of natural girth but now 5.75-6" girth from PE.
2. It has a natural upwards curve (the best angle for fucking)
3. It's 5.5" length (the sort of only problem)

There are a few concerns I have assuming an extender would work and provide me say .5-1" length.

First, will the extender straighten out my curve? Because I don't want it to.

Second, will it definitively lead to foreskin elongation? I am uncircumsized and that sucker is already got too much skin -- even upon boner my head is a bit covered in skin.

Third, does anyone actually know the standard vaginal length before hitting the cervix/wall? I am actually worried that 6"-6.5" upward curved dick might actually be too much for most women but I am not sure? The absolute last thing I'd want is to be unable to go balls deep in vag + ass.

Other than these things I'm all for a big dick and the aesthetic advantages it provides. Even being straight big dicks in porn just "look better" to me.

[closed146 Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed146]

Well as i heard girth is more important for fucking. But length is important for blowjob and looks i think.

And about what u said about pro extender. My penis skin is so tight when erect so that's a good thing for me i think. Because I need some skin there

[not2big Senior Super ModeratorPEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close not2big]

I have used an extender for over four years and have noticed little or no change in my upward curve. Though I have increased my BPEL from 5.5" to 6.5", I (nor my wife) have not noticed and difference during intercourse.

I have also increased my girth from 4.4" to 5.4". Though my wife seems not to notice any difference, I definitely feel a tighter fit.

[dmizzle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close dmizzle]

Im 7.5" bpel and Ive never had a problem beig too long. Bever bottomed out any woman. The only time i hit the cervix is when Im fucking hard from behind. Sometimes my girl uses her hand to stop me from going too deep, but that is very very rare. Your dick is finr the way it it, but you can get much longer and be fine. How do they find so many women that can take Lex Steel balls deep in the vagina and in the ass. I think most women can take a big dick.

[king0 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close king0]

So I've been debating for a while over getting an extender to increase length but I'm not entirely sure if I even want to -- let me explain:

I've seen enough dicks in porn to come to the conclusion that besides my average length my dick is otherwise perfect for fucking.

1. It's 5.5" of natural girth but now 5.75-6" girth from PE.
2. It has a natural upwards curve (the best angle for fucking)
3. It's 5.5" length (the sort of only problem)

There are a few concerns I have assuming an extender would work and provide me say .5-1" length.

First, will the extender straighten out my curve? Because I don't want it to.

Second, will it definitively lead to foreskin elongation? I am uncircumsized and that sucker is already got too much skin -- even upon boner my head is a bit covered in skin.

Third, does anyone actually know the standard vaginal length before hitting the cervix/wall? I am actually worried that 6"-6.5" upward curved dick might actually be too much for most women but I am not sure? The absolute last thing I'd want is to be unable to go balls deep in vag + ass.

Other than these things I'm all for a big dick and the aesthetic advantages it provides. Even being straight big dicks in porn just "look better" to me.

i also have an upward curve and have gained roughly over roughly 0.75 inches from just extending ALONE and my curve has remained the same...

[ehlolol Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ehlolol]

Third, does anyone actually know the standard vaginal length before hitting the cervix/wall? I am actually worried that 6"-6.5" upward curved dick might actually be too much for most women but I am not sure? The absolute last thing I'd want is to be unable to go balls deep in vag + ass.

Common natural sense tells me, it should be around the same size as their male counterparts - nature provides compatibility. Therefore if the average size is around 5'' in length with a variance of like +-1'', than that must be also the same for women.
But Im under the impression that they are slightly "bigger" (deeper).

Also, I like to imagine that the vagina is pretty much just an inverted dick. In its "flacid" state, it is "short" (shallow), and gets "bigger" when aroused. Just like man cant have sex in flacid state, woman cant really either - without pain.
Also the "glans" (anterior/posterior fornix - "a spot") is also as sensitive as the male glans.

[master-gauge Senior Member Member of the Month May 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close master-gauge]

There was a study on here someone posted awhile ago and I'm too lazy to look for right now (and it's the one I believe the most out of all the crap out there) .. The moral of the story is they asked around 100 women to choose casts of actual penis's.. 75 of them all grabbed the 6.5" BPEL by 6" MEG out of a bunch on the table as there final answer as the perfect penis.. Not a honkin' 8X6 tally wacker.. A 6.5" BPEL.. Gain an inch if possible, can't hurt..

[j.helpern Member Find all posts View Profile Close j.helpern]

Im getting tired of this debate... Yes you can please a woman with average length, yes girth is typically more important to woman. Just get your dick to where is works for you... some people want a hog, some people are trying to go for the "wow" factor, some people just want to please their wife, some people are more promiscuous... just do you

[habban Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close habban]

I also have an upward curve and i have got 1 inch in length without any difference i guess. Only with manual work.

[Phoenix7672 Senior Member Member of the Month Oct 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Phoenix7672]

There was a study on here someone posted awhile ago and I'm too lazy to look for right now (and it's the one I believe the most out of all the crap out there) .. The moral of the story is they asked around 100 women to choose casts of actual penis's.. 75 of them all grabbed the 6.5" BPEL by 6" MEG out of a bunch on the table as there final answer as the perfect penis.. Not a honkin' 8X6 tally wacker.. A 6.5" BPEL.. Gain an inch if possible, can't hurt..

It wasn't 6.5"x6"....it was between 6.3-6.4"x4.8-5". Although we all want 6" MEG, I doubt the majority of women would pick that over a 5-5.5" for daily use...to be honest.

Abstract

Women’s preferences for penis size may affect men’s comfort with their own bodies and may have implications for sexual health. Studies of women’s penis size preferences typically have relied on their abstract ratings or selecting amongst 2D, flaccid images. This study used haptic stimuli to allow assessment of women’s size recall accuracy for the first time, as well as examine their preferences for erect penis sizes in different relationship contexts. Women (N = 75) selected amongst 33, 3D models. Women recalled model size accurately using this method, although they made more errors with respect to penis length than circumference. Women preferred a penis of slightly larger circumference and length for one-time (length = 6.4 inches/16.3 cm, circumference = 5.0 inches/12.7 cm) versus long-term (length = 6.3 inches/16.0 cm, circumference = 4.8 inches/12.2 cm) sexual partners. These first estimates of erect penis size preferences using 3D models suggest women accurately recall size and prefer penises only slightly larger than average.

[PurpleOnes Senior Member Member of the Month June 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close PurpleOnes]

I think it is worth it.

If you get really thick your penis will look really short. Length balances girth in my opinnion.

[master-gauge Senior Member Member of the Month May 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close master-gauge]

knew it was on here somewhere.. That's even better for myself as I'm above that 4.8"-5" MG when I'm completely flaccid on cool day.. Glad u found that.. With u're girth, gain an inch and there should be no complaints, lol.. If looking to gain just in the Length dept maybe look at hanging for that over the other exercises...

[McShorty Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close McShorty]

I would start hanging.. you will gain length and also girth! The best think is that hanging is hands free so you can still work and do you stuff on your pc or whatever

[BigStick4Pleasure Member Find all posts View Profile Close BigStick4Pleasure]

This is in response to your third question (average vaginal length), and my thoughts on the aesthetic aspect of having length.

What I have to say is going to go against what many here are saying but I have to chime in from my personal experiences which bear out conflicting conclusions. My size was 8x6 in my 20's, and I'm currently close to 8.75 long, 6.25 thick, now just entering my 40's. (Most if not all of that growth occurred on its own, not from PE. Go figure.)

I must further qualify that I have been with very many women. The exact number I can't track down but it's in the 70's. I have been with all types of races, heights, body types, personalities, sexualities. By no means do I consider myself a sexual master, as I have recently come under the tutelage of someone vastly more skilled than me, someone with knowledge and skills that most people on this forum would find totally impossible but that I know for a fact they are real, just extremely scarce.

At my length in the 8+ range, my experience is that most women take me to about 7 to 7.5 in depth once they are fully aroused and the sex has been well underway for awhile. I will qualify that in a moment with many factors. When I say "most women," if I had to guess it'd be about 4 out of 5, 80%. The other 20% can take all of my length, and based on what I'm feeling inside, in most cases could definitely take more if I had more. Some a lot more, as in once fully aroused they become so tented that I can no longer even feel my cock head touching their cervix anymore. That may be hard to hear but it's the truth.

This is a matter of "tenting", just how much her vagina lengthens as she becomes more and more aroused and her uterus retracts back and up inside of her. Since how much she tents is determined by many factors, there is no real sense is trying to determine the "average length" of a vagina. When not aroused, it is just a handful of inches in length, so shallow that a gynecologist can easily reach the cervix with their fingers (or anyone else, as any woman who knows her body well will attest to). When fully aroused, some women may still only be around 5" in depth give or take, while others may be 9". Even to say that is imprecise- are we talking from vaginal entrance to the very tip of the cervix, or beneath the cervix into the posterior fornix which is always deeper?

There are many factors affecting how deep a penetration a woman can take. Her height for sure is a big factor. Therefore, her race is indirectly also one since Asian women tend to be the most petite and African women tend to be the tallest. But the race is incidental. No matter the race, the taller the woman, in general the deeper a vagina she has. Outliers are just that, exceptions. I'm talking about a population trend, not the exceptions.

Another big factor is just how aroused she is. This in itself depends on many things. If it's her first time with you, or the twentieth time and she feels tremendously comfortable and close to you. (Nervousness tends to make them tent less the first time and then I can go deeper the more I see them.) If she had a stressful day or not. What time of her cycle she's in. How good you are at foreplay and your skill as a cocksman, reading her signals right and arousing her gradually as opposed to just putting it in and thrusting rather mindlessly.

There is an anatomic/psychosomatic effect as well, that is more complex than I can do justice to. In a nutshell, many women (but not all) are able to force a kind of relaxation of their tissues in the pelvic region, that will allow them to take a penetration much deeper than usual; for most women this is an automatic thing, connected in part to how aroused they are. The bigger the penis they are about to take, the more they will tent. But most women do not learn how to make the most of this potential. It is possible to teach a woman to learn this relaxation, involving the visualization of blood flow to that region of her body, sensing the warmth there and forcing herself to relax a tension she didn't know she had. This is how some women- extremely rarely- are able to take, 10 to 12 inches of penetration, while most cannot. That may seem like b.s. to many here but I have seen it with my own eyes and I am a talented judge of size (it took many years to learn how; I take no credit for it, it's all about learning from people who know more than you).

Lastly, the above factor is probably also affected by simple physics, that some women have much more elasticity in their deep connective tissues (fornices and surrounding areas, and the uterus as well), than other women who may be very firmed up inside with little flexibility. I can definitely attest to this personally, feeling some women have like a brick wall inside at the bottom end while others are soft and pliant, can be "stretched" inside an inch or two with ease. How much of this is purely physiological and how much is the psychosomatic I mentioned in the previous paragraph is beyond me, but it's always some mix of the two and varies from woman to woman.

I have been with extremely petite women who could handle almost all of my cock and with great enjoyment, even during quite vigorous sex, and I have been with taller types who were complete wimps at taking more than 6 inches. The smallest woman I ever had was all of 4'9" tall, but she took about 8" of me after a couple of sessions, and it was incredible sex for both of us. These are the OUTLIERS. The general pattern of my experience is, the taller the woman the more she can take, and the shorter the woman the less she can. Girth is not very relevant, most women can eventually handle very thick with ease.

Let's not forget every woman has a different pain threshhold, and a different mental complex about how pain figures into her enjoyment of sex in general. A woman with a very low tolerance for pain and a highly sensitive cervix isn't going to let a hung guy press around her deeper places a second time, unless he is quite gentle. Even to say just that is a simplification of another complex subject. Pain tolerance can change with how aroused a woman is, how she feels about being dominated by an aggressive lover versus a tender lovemaking session, etc.

Since your post is about questioning whether extra length is worth pursuing, I have mentioned the things I have here to provide support for my opinion- absolutely, in almost all cases will it be worth having extra length to work with. That is if you want to try and do more than just have a bigger penis but also very intently want to become a better lover, then you will not settle for mediocre sex that most people convince themselves is the best that sex can get. Unequivocally, irrefutably from many years of personal experience I can say hell yes having the length I do makes a difference in what I can provide a woman.

Clitoral stimulation is only scratching the surface of what heights of orgasmic pleasure a woman can experience. The next level is G-spot / squirting orgasms, which most but not all women are capable of. After that comes generalized cervical orgasms, which compared to a clitoral orgasm are far more deep, full-bodied rather than localized (a different set of nerves is activated), and women will tell you is more profound and fulfilling an orgasm than a clit-based one. There are quite a few more types of orgasms, several of which are far more incredible than cervical ones, but that's off topic and honestly not currently within my repertoire (as I said, I've just taken up an apprenticeship with a true sexual master; I've witnessed these things and had them described to me in detail by several women I have shared with him, but currently the skill level and understanding required are beyond me).

Aesthetically, the visual appeal of a longer penis whether flaccid or erect is without a doubt one that has a huge impact on a woman's psyche. I could elaborate but feel I've already made this post far too long.

I know many people are going to think I'm full of it or don't know what I'm talking about, but my conclusions here are based on many real life sexual experiences and a keen mind along with a lifelong desire to get better at sex. NOT based on porn which is extremely biased and unrepresentative of the real world of sex. Another topic I could write a novella on.

If the truth hurts, become obsessed with PE like Bib did. Or choose not to care so much about comparing yourself to other men sexually and/or settle for being mediocre. I do not mean to be mean or sound arrogant, I can tell you I used to be a complete moron about women and sex and it has been a very long, very difficult journey for me getting to where I am now (which to me is not very impressive yet). A lot of ego bruising, a lot of heartache over losing women for various reasons, and in my opinion I still have a long way to go. I have lost opportunities recently with women who would be considered perfect 10's by most men on Earth, and with high profile celebrities and women famous for their incredible bodies. My sexual world is insane; I could share 5% of it and heads would explode.

As consolation, if you are hung average and are an absolute GOD of sexual techniques, abilities and reading a woman and responding appropriately, you very much outclass a man who is very well hung and long-lasting but who is average in skills/experience. Further consolation can be taken in that even shorter-than-average erections can directly stimulate a woman's G-spot and give her powerful squirting orgasms, which any woman will tell you are way more physically intense and thrilling than clit orgasms. (Master making a woman squirt and you will have women addicted to seeing you for sex, believe me.) You must first learn to make a woman squirt with your fingers however; once that is mastered you can attempt it with your johnson.

But to truly be a male sex god you must have both the endowment and the hard-earned skills and abilities. Reaching the deeper parts of a woman's internals, and knowing how to make the most of that reach, puts you in a class magnitudes above the rest. That said, there is much more to a man than his abilities in bed.

I do not wish to offend or hurt anyone with this post, but I am an avid enthusiast of the truth, no matter the consequences.

[Inneedofgirth Banned Find all posts View Profile Close Inneedofgirth]

I would think that girth is way more important! I would rather have a 6 inch long dick with a 5.5 girth, than a 7-8 inch long dick with only 5 inch girth.