Supplements experiment: For healing and promoting growth.

[INS]

Edit: Fine, they're not supplements.


Treatment with a combination of ginger, L-citrulline, muira puama and Paullinia cupana can reverse the progression of corporal smooth muscle loss, ... - PubMed - NCBI

"Treatment with a combination of ginger, L-citrulline, muira puama and Paullinia cupana can reverse the progression of corporal smooth muscle loss, fibrosis and veno-occlusive dysfunction in the aging rat."


There is a member FeelingGreat in the Pe anomalies and injuries forum who seemed to have healing his injury after a few years by using this supplement.

I went around searching and people who used muira puama and paullinia cupana (guarana), and while they were few, they seemed to have better gains. Now I understand this could just be a coincidence or perhaps a correlation not a causation (the causation being that those who bought these sups were more interested in PE and harder working), but I wonder if there's a way we can test this out.

Oh and citrulline and ginger (5-G tea) have been endorsed already by people.

I just wonder if it's possible and if any slow or plateued gainers would like to try this?

Or perhaps Mr Big Al could set up an experiment with his clients to test the efficiency?

Contraindications: Consult your doctor to see if these drugs are safe to take.

Some more details about effects:

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penis-e...ml#post1178097

[CUSP82]

Do you understand what the nature of a supplement is and what it does?

[INS]

Do you understand what the nature of a supplement is and what it does?

to correct a deficiency if any and enhance for certain purposes (like bodybuiilding)

You're going to argue semantics?

[CUSP82]

No I'm not going to argue; why would I?

Yes it corrects our poor nutrition but as for enhancement it really doesn't do squat. The body s smart; it takes what it needs. What it doesn't need it either stores some place or it ends up in a landfill somewhere. If your body only needs 5 apples a day and you give it 10 what do you think the body will do with the extra? It gets rid of it.

Now for people that exercise a lot, like runners and body builders, they end to burn up more of what the body needs because they are exercising but to give the body a great excess does nothing to enhance the body. It may make sure that the nutritional needs of the body are met but when those needs of the body are fulfilled then out it goes. It is a wonderful homeostatic system and other do feel differently about more is better but in truth it is not. sometimes the more is even harmful but that will be for another day.

[closed260]

Perhaps we are looking for a word that is somewhere between supplement (like citrulline) which you could take extra in case it's missing from your diet and a medicine which you take to alter the metabolism of your body. Of course, medicine is regulated and prescribed by a professional informed from the state of medical science. Supplements (in the US) are not required to have any basis in fact or demonstrated effectiveness. I don't know what muira puama and Paullinia cupana are (nor do I know how to evaluate Feelinggreat's link to a research article), so I guess they are something like Maca: an exogenous hormone, that alters the otherwise natural metabolism. Add to that taking this stuff is DIY science experiment with poor controls, very indirect measurements, and a very (too?) low sample size.

[ehlolol]

CUSP82, theoretically speaking, you are completely right.
Supplements - as the name suggests - are there to supplement.

But lets be practical here, who the heck - especially in the USA (even though I am an european, I know this thanks to media - those obese americans :P) - eats healthily these days.
Take your average Joe, he eats what he desires. No one is like "heck, today I took 80% of my daily need of vit C, lets eat some leomon and remeasure somehow".
What I am trying to say is that no one, even if someone tries to, eats 100% healthily, especially not your normal Joe.
If you group people into two categories, those who eat healthily and those who dont and look at those who do eat healthily, I would even dare to say that they dont eat 100% healthily..

I think supplements, especially those aimed at bettering specific characteristics of the human anatomy, dont only supplement, but might be the sole source of that need.

You say when you body needs 5 apples but you provide it with 10, it shits out the rest. Sure.. but what if you body needs 5 apples but you provide it daily with 7 cheeseburgers, 1 x 2l coca cola, some fries, some spaghetti, some ramen - and for simplicity's sake, lets say that none of them contains anything that is in an apple, what then? Your body will lack that shit. A supplement, especially one that is there to EP (enhance penis), will be the only source.
I would even go as far to not call it a supplement but just.. incorporate it into your normal diet. Like drinking those tea mixtures daily or eating specifically those things that benefit your penis health.
Or just take the pill that already contains all that shit in one.

Im not sure whether I am getting my point across..

[FossilHead]

Treatment with a combination of ginger, L-citrulline, muira puama and Paullinia cupana can reverse the progression of corporal smooth muscle loss, ... - PubMed - NCBI

National Institutes of Health objective study.....

No I'm not going to argue; why would I?

Yes it corrects our poor nutrition but as for enhancement it really doesn't do squat. The body s smart; it takes what it needs. What it doesn't need it either stores some place or it ends up in a landfill somewhere. If your body only needs 5 apples a day and you give it 10 what do you think the body will do with the extra? It gets rid of it.

Now for people that exercise a lot, like runners and body builders, they end to burn up more of what the body needs because they are exercising but to give the body a great excess does nothing to enhance the body. It may make sure that the nutritional needs of the body are met but when those needs of the body are fulfilled then out it goes. It is a wonderful homeostatic system and other do feel differently about more is better but in truth it is not. sometimes the more is even harmful but that will be for another day.

CUSP82's subjective opinion...........

[lobey]

if you are recovering from strenuous physical workouts then you are recovering well enough to get pe benefits....

good nutrition including supplements help.....but the training effects almost all of the pe results...

you could eat crap all day and stretch and pump like mad and gain.....or eat perfectly and be inconsistent and see nothing......

i have been guilty of sometimes spending money on supps that might make 2% difference in results....and then you never know if you would have got the same results anyway



activity specificity is the most important by far......if you want to hit a golf ball better .....then hit golf balls!.....dont go to the gym and work out for two hours and hit balls for 20 minutes....

we all want a magic pill....but its name is discipline....and it is free

[kickinthemebs]

National Institutes of Health objective study.....




CUSP82's subjective opinion...........

[ehlolol]

you could eat crap all day and stretch and pump like mad and gain.....or eat perfectly and be inconsistent and see nothing......

Off-Topic here:
I hate that type of comparison >.<
I hate it when I read that - thats basically what all women say when asked whether size matters:
big dick + bad lover < small dick + great lover

Where in the equation is "big dick + great lover" bitch?!
Why not assume same skills as lover on both sides of the equation then "subtract" it from both sides and then finally regard the real issue here:
small dick < big dick OR
small dick > big dick
Why not single out one characteristic and try to maximize it first..
No one asked about the other thing. We can worry about the other shit once we maximize this one here... Sigh...

Thats like diverting from the real question; not giving a straight answer - because of political correctness - but... because of that, we can deduct that big dick > small dick!!

You can maximize both and be overall better.
Same with nutrition + pe: you can maximize both and overall maximize your gains much better.
Even those 2% count in the long run! Gaining 2% more monthly add up over years!