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  1. 02-24-2016 #1
    DryJelq
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    In the past year or so I've been doing research on how to stretch ligaments. Most of my research has been based on muscle stretching. Below is a yoga article that gets into a lot of specifics about joints, but essentially what you'll learn is they recommend a full stretch for at least 30 seconds.

    Thoughts on Lengthening Ligaments

    A number of articles have done studies on stretching and how it affect ligaments. Basically all of the articles I've read state that ligaments don't elongate until they have been brought to their maximum length for at least 20-30 seconds.

    The article also states that sources for ligaments shortening mainly include long periods of contracted states and trauma.

    Since that time I have experimented with routines that applies these theories.

    1.) Don't pull to hard. If you injure yourself you will cause swelling and trauma, which will shrink that dick.


    2.) Take your time. Ease into your workout. Workout intensity can always be replaced with workout duration. The last thing you want to do is use too much intensity and cause swelling.

    3.) According to the articles I read, the ideal intensity for stretching ligaments is just strong enough to yield SLIGHT discomfort/stretching sensation (similar to an intense muscle stretch) and most importantly ABSOLUTELY NO PAIN.

    3.) Extremely long static stretches are better than reps of short duration stretches. I hold stretches in a single direction for 30-60 seconds before changing directions.

    4.) Semi-Erect Clamped Stretching seems to work really well. The semi-erect clamped aspect of the workout keeps the ligaments extended even while you aren't stretching.

    5.) Immediately after clamped stretching, I like to do some edging to get my dick as hard as possible and see how long I can make it. I feel like edging helps solidify your gains and gives a good chance to stretch your smooth muscle tissue and blood vessels for extended periods of time.


    In the past month, I have gained length so quickly, that my penis has outgrown my blood vessels. When I get erect, I can feel a stretch in the veins around the base of my penis.

    For the past week, I have been doing moderate to light workouts waiting for the blood vessels to "catch up". I'm hoping this will happen soon as I want to start upping the intensity some more and make new gains.
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    2/10 7.2-6.75-5.2-5.6
    8/10 7.1-6.9
    7/12 7.4-7.0-5.3-5.6
    7/13 7.6-7.2-5.4-5.7
    10/16 7.8-7.3
    4/20 8.25-7.75-5.8-6.2
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  2. 02-24-2016 #2
    DryJelq
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    FYI - Just measured BPFSL for the first since I started my new routine. I measured roughly 8.1, which is over 1/4 longer than any previous peak measurement.

    I knew my dick felt longer, but I didn't realize it was 0.3 longer than any previous peak!
    Last edited by DryJelq; 02-24-2016 at 06:14 PM.
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    Date BPFSL-BPEL-MEG-BEG
    6/09 6.50-6.25-4.8-5.1
    2/10 7.2-6.75-5.2-5.6
    8/10 7.1-6.9
    7/12 7.4-7.0-5.3-5.6
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    10/16 7.8-7.3
    4/20 8.25-7.75-5.8-6.2
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  3. 02-24-2016 #3
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    BTW I would have to say that I am a VERY HARD gainer when it comes to length.

    I've spent years trying to gain length to no avail. The only thing that seems to work well is my new routine that emphasizes 30-60 stretches, in particular semi-erect clamped-stretches.

    What I've been doing actually is taking a USB cable and tying a square knot around the base of my dick in the flaccid or semi-erect state. Then I pull up the skin while pushing down on the cable to get it as far down as possible.

    Throughout my exercise I continue pushing down on the cable to throttle pressure intensity. I've found that this stretches your ligaments a hell of a lot more than regular stretches, because rather than having them go from point A to point B, they have to wrap around the cable at the base of your dick. This makes them excessively longer.

    In the past month or 2 I estimate my gains to be in the 0.5 inch range. Wasn't sure exactly how long I was when I started this routine, but for the past 3 years I've basically yo-yo'd from 7.3-7.8. Often times I would lose my peak growth in a matter of days and now I've gained up to 8.1 with little effort and I seem to have very few issues maintaining my gains.

    I really think that there is something to this 30-60 seconds thing. I also really like the clamped semi-erect stretches, because it over stretches your ligaments preventing them from tightening back up and eating into your gains.
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    Date BPFSL-BPEL-MEG-BEG
    6/09 6.50-6.25-4.8-5.1
    2/10 7.2-6.75-5.2-5.6
    8/10 7.1-6.9
    7/12 7.4-7.0-5.3-5.6
    7/13 7.6-7.2-5.4-5.7
    10/16 7.8-7.3
    4/20 8.25-7.75-5.8-6.2
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  4. 02-24-2016 #4
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    Why a USB cable vs using a cable clamp?
    Do you do multi direction stretches or just up, down, straight out?
    I stretch while clamping.
    But I use a cable clamp and I don't push the clamp down when I'm stretching.
    Might have to add that.
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  5. 02-25-2016 #5
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    I'm thinking he goes with the cable so that it's a smoother/rounder surface for the ligaments to "wrap" around, as compared to a roughly squared edge that may hinder the ability of the ligament to actually perform the "wrapping" action. Thus the ligaments aren't truly stretching in the maximum manner that this theory is describing.

    Just my guess upon reading. Take it as you will, but I'm sure we'll receive a response soon from the OP.
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    Initial: BPEL: 6.9" EG: 4.75"
    Current: BPEL: 7.25" EG: 5.125" - 25 Feb 2016
    Goal: BPEL: 8.75"+ EG: 5.75"
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  6. 02-25-2016 #6
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    OP,

    Thanks for sharing this information.
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  7. 02-25-2016 #7
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    I been using the USB cable and computer screen cable because they are very comfortable. The material is very smooth and makes for easily tying a tight knot. I don't even need a wrap especially with the thicker computer screen cable.

    Main reason I came across this clamping method is because I never went out to buy cable clamps. I always just used a shoelace or something. Then one day I tried a USB cable and found it was pretty damn comfortable. Then I tried a computer screen cable because it was thicker with a similar smooth surface on the outside.

    I haven't done too much with directions other than down, up, and out. I always start my routine by stretching down and then as my ligs get stretched out I push the cable down, and stretch straight out. With the cable pushed down this keeps my ligs stretched as though I were stretching downwards even if I'm just stretching out.

    Also because the material is fairly smooth and the cable has some compressive strength to it, it makes it super easy to untie the knot. Shoelaces have zero compressive strength, so untying is a nightmare.
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    Date BPFSL-BPEL-MEG-BEG
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    2/10 7.2-6.75-5.2-5.6
    8/10 7.1-6.9
    7/12 7.4-7.0-5.3-5.6
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  8. 02-27-2016 #8
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    So you're using the cable as the fulcrum of an A or V stretch that is not symmetrical.
    I will look into this.
    I attempted this with my cable clamp.
    I was pushing it back into my fat pad, not down.
    There was a noticeable stretch actually behind the pad, maybe the inner dick.
    I don't know really.
    But I ended up a bit sore.
    Took two days off and will be back at it.
    I will try down and up, the true directions with the cable clamp.
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  9. 03-09-2016 #9
    DryJelq
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    I personally haven't used a cable clamp for this.

    Like I said I've only done this with a USB cable (does make your skin slightly sore). A thicker gage coated wire is more comfortable (i.e. computer screen cable).

    I also start the session by clamping from semi-erect or flaccid. Stretching is typically done semi-erect or flaccid.

    But yes, you want to push into your pubic bone. This shouldn't make your sore, but rather help you throttle the intensity of the clamping. Sometimes I will add kegelling as I push down. This seems to help get a small amount of circulation of blood and let's me clamp longer.
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    Date BPFSL-BPEL-MEG-BEG
    6/09 6.50-6.25-4.8-5.1
    2/10 7.2-6.75-5.2-5.6
    8/10 7.1-6.9
    7/12 7.4-7.0-5.3-5.6
    7/13 7.6-7.2-5.4-5.7
    10/16 7.8-7.3
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  10. 03-09-2016 #10
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    Thanks for sharing that information.

    I think the information is already implicitly included in JP90 and the jelq-free routine.
    JP90 wants you to stretch while doing 25 kegels (which equates to about 25 seconds which is in the range of 20-30s) and then follow that up with circle stretches. Thats then well over 30s for just 1 stretch.
    That might be why I have gained very well with JP90 and people in general do; this is supportive of your theory.

    The side to side stretches also take more than 30s.
    E.g. if you are supposed to do 300 side to side stretches, you have to pause at every 100th rep because of circulation; shaking a bit to then continue.
    100 side to sides also take quite a bit longer than 30s.
    And the jelq-free routine also seems to be effective.

    Anyway, I have been taking breaks while doing the side to sdie stretches in even shorter intervals (20-30 reps) because of intensity so now I will tone down the intensity a tad bit to up the possible duration and reach 100 reps each time before I have to shake for circulation.

    Thanks for explicitly bringing it to attention.
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