Too Little?

[turtler]

Do you guys think that the cause for my minimal gains could be from overdoing it?

The thing about gains is that it's really hard to determine what is "normal" or "to be expected". We do get quite a few stories from people who gained decent amounts in a short time, but as for useful statistical data we have zilch (Big Al might be the exception here). To make matters worse, we don't even know how much of the reported gains can be attributed to EQ improvements or how accurate the measurements were.

And while we all love success stories, the downside of them is that they may lead to unrealistic expectations, and unrealistic expectations is the number one quickest route to unhappiness.

You may have read a bunch of stories of guys who gained an inch of length and .4 in girth with their first beginner routine, but my overall impression is that this is far from the norm. Gaining nada during this time seems to be an exceedingly normal result. There doesn't have to be a special reason for your "minimal gains", minimal gains is pretty much the name of the game for a lot of people. Most have to do a lot of trial and error before they find the thing that works. Sometimes by blind luck, sometimes because they are better at developing the "feel" for what's needed.

So, do you need to do more or less? Flip a coin. All we can tell you is that since you're not one of "those" people who can seemingly get crazy gains from just breathing at their dick, five and a half months really isn't long at all. It's time to settle in for the long haul, and the long haul usually feels a lot better if you stop being in it for just the gains and instead find pleasure in what you do.

So, if you enjoy Big Al's routine (which I can assure you gets plenty intense once you get a few cycles in), then go for it. If you enjoy worrying that some girl you haven't even met yet will be disappointed by your absolutely normal, perfected-by-evolution dick, then by all means keep at it. It's a game that never stops giving. And if you don't enjoy the things you do, see if you can replace them with something else. It's usually quite possible.

[Big Al]

Make sure to enforce small but regular increases in your training. You should also make an attempt to maximize your EQ. If your EQ is high you'll get much more out of your training efforts.

Make sure you take accurate measurements every two weeks. You can't necessarily expect your penis to feel different as a result of enlargement- though if things go well it should certainly feel harder.

[willdta]

The thing about gains is that it's really hard to determine what is "normal" or "to be expected". We do get quite a few stories from people who gained decent amounts in a short time, but as for useful statistical data we have zilch (Big Al might be the exception here). To make matters worse, we don't even know how much of the reported gains can be attributed to EQ improvements or how accurate the measurements were.

And while we all love success stories, the downside of them is that they may lead to unrealistic expectations, and unrealistic expectations is the number one quickest route to unhappiness.

You may have read a bunch of stories of guys who gained an inch of length and .4 in girth with their first beginner routine, but my overall impression is that this is far from the norm. Gaining nada during this time seems to be an exceedingly normal result. There doesn't have to be a special reason for your "minimal gains", minimal gains is pretty much the name of the game for a lot of people. Most have to do a lot of trial and error before they find the thing that works. Sometimes by blind luck, sometimes because they are better at developing the "feel" for what's needed.

So, do you need to do more or less? Flip a coin. All we can tell you is that since you're not one of "those" people who can seemingly get crazy gains from just breathing at their dick, five and a half months really isn't long at all. It's time to settle in for the long haul, and the long haul usually feels a lot better if you stop being in it for just the gains and instead find pleasure in what you do.

So, if you enjoy Big Al's routine (which I can assure you gets plenty intense once you get a few cycles in), then go for it. If you enjoy worrying that some girl you haven't even met yet will be disappointed by your absolutely normal, perfected-by-evolution dick, then by all means keep at it. It's a game that never stops giving. And if you don't enjoy the things you do, see if you can replace them with something else. It's usually quite possible.

Thanks for this. Even though I'm 5 and a half months in, I'm still not going to give up. I'm trying everyday to convince myself that my size is perfectly normal but the devil inside me just won't let me.

Make sure to enforce small but regular increases in your training. You should also make an attempt to maximize your EQ. If your EQ is high you'll get much more out of your training efforts.

Make sure you take accurate measurements every two weeks. You can't necessarily expect your penis to feel different as a result of enlargement- though if things go well it should certainly feel harder.

My EQ has always been a 10. I'm thinking of increasing squeezes by 2-4 each session until I reach 50 and about 20-40 S2S per session. Is this a reasonable jump if PI's stay positive?

[Big Al]

My EQ has always been a 10. I'm thinking of increasing squeezes by 2-4 each session until I reach 50 and about 20-40 S2S per session. Is this a reasonable jump if PI's stay positive?

Adding 2 reps to your squeezes per session should be sufficient. For the S2S, you can add around 10% volume per session- as this exercises lends itself to quick adaptations.

[dmizzle]

PE is like going to the gym. How many guys go to the gym 5 days a week, and a year later still look the same. That's most people. A few gain in a couple months then plateau, that's me with PE and the gym. Then the rare few that seem to gain regularly over the years.

Its just the human body. Not everyone can be a bodybuilder, it's genetics. But I do believe just about anyone can gain in PE and the gym. But, it just takes more work. If you go to the gym and you dont add any muscle, it usually means you are not eating enough. If you don't gain doing PE, its either overtraining or under training.

PE is tough because you have to spend months just to see if something is working. Thats why this could take years to even gain 1".

#1 - watch your PI'S. Keep adding more reps until you see negative PI'S then back off a little.

#2 - follow a tried and true routine. For a beginner, I think JP90 is best. Then you can move to Big Als routine.

#3 - change it up. After a good 6 months, you should know your dick and all the exercises. Start adding more intense exercises. For length, hanging is king followed by extenders and manual stretches. For girth, clamping followed by squeezes, Uli's, and O Bends.

#4 - stay in an extended state. Using the ESL or some other type of ADS is best. Also traction wrapping and don't forget the infamous LAS or fowfers.

#5 - stay consistent. Start a progress thread, do your routine regularly, try not to skip workouts unless PI'S are bad.

#6 - last but not least, rest. At least 2 days a week. I went almost 1 year with no more then a 4 day mini break. I am now on the final days of a 2 week break. I'm thinking of taking 1 week every 3 to 4 months. I've heard so many stories of people gaining after a layoff.

I can almost guarantee that if these steps are taken, you will gain.