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  1. 03-24-2016 #1
    willdta
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    I've been religiously PEing for a good 5 and a half months with literally minimal to no gains. Before becoming consistent and dedicated, I tried doing JP90 in the summer but gave up. Once I got consistent, I followed PSEG's routine. Basically `10 minutes of stretches and 10 minutes of jelqing for 2 months. No gains arose from doing that. I kept that going for another month before I decided to try more advanced stretches thinking that they would help me. I incorporated A and V stretches along with the basic stretches and jelqed occasionally but I was more focused on length. Recently I added the super lig stretch and an ESL40 to my routine. I would wear the ADS for 7-8 hours throughout the day. I've seen no gains and I've started questioning whether I am one of those rare few that just can't gain. I trained 2 days on 1 off for that time. I am 6.25 BPEL and even though that is average, I feel like I will be called small when a girl sees it. I know that it's how you use it but I just can't accept my size for the life of me.

    Even though I feel like I haven't gained, I took some pictures and there is a noticeable difference but I just can't believe it because my penis feels the same. I am now for the sake of sanity trying a program that I feel will work because I have done a lot of research and it just makes complete sense to me. I feel like I may have been training too much when my penis just needs a little less attention per week.

    I will be on Big AL's Jelq Free Routine for the next 6 weeks (1 cycle) to see whether I will gain. I will follow the program to the dot and not modify anything but volume of the exercises. I will be doing it 3x a week and even though that seems like a little to me, I believe Al when he says your penis will need the time to rest and I will give my unit that time to rest.

    Do you guys think that the cause for my minimal gains could be from overdoing it? Do you think that since I have gained virtually nothing that I will gain using an intense but less frequent routine?

    Sorry for the rant. I needed to express myself. I'm a 19 year old virgin in college so I'm really conscious about size and being called small.
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  2. 03-24-2016 #2
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    keep your head high. keep trying. And PE safe.
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    It's possible that it may be due to over training. For some guys less is more. All you can do is give it a try.
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  4. 03-24-2016 #4
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    You're not small...above average length-wise, actually. Just stick with your routine. Less may truly be MORE for you! We're ALL different, and gain with different techniques, some faster than others. Just be consistent, persistent and PATIENT! You cannot rush PE. Finding your own proper intensity and frequency along with the exercises that will work for YOU is KEY to successful PE & growth. STAY FOCUSED, you'll get there!
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  5. 03-24-2016 #5
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    You are NOT small. In fact you're above average in length. I think it's a natural fear that women will consider you less than a man, but most women aren't terrible people. I've never been called small and I was at 5.7" BPEL pretty much my whole adult life. I've actually been told I'm big by a couple good friends/girlfriends that I had been with for 6+ months back in college because they have only been with guys on the low side of average.

    In short, don't worry about it. Unless you wind up bringing some shallow girl back to your dorm you are more than enough to please anyone if you don't let your insecurities shine.

    It sounds like you have gained according to the pictures so i'm not sure what you're worried about anyway. Make sure you start taking measurements though, as they are more accurate than a picture. I still feel the same size for the most part, but the measurements show that i've gained. I would have given up after a week if I hadn't read the boatloads of success stories around here from regular folks that aren't getting paid to say it.

    Sure there are ads to pay for the site, but this is a true community of dudes(and ladies) sharing information about the very effective thing called PE
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    Starting(1-4-2016):
    5.7 BPEL 4.5 MEG
    Current:
    6.15 BPEL 4.875 MEG
    Goal :
    7 BPEL x 5.5 MEG
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    Oh, one other thing...since you're only 19, there's a very good chance you've got some more growing to do, too! Many guys don't attain all their natural growth until 21 or so. Have faith, PE WORKS!
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  7. 03-24-2016 #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by greg123 View Post
    keep your head high. keep trying. And PE safe.
    Thank you for the positive words!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cavalier View Post
    It's possible that it may be due to over training. For some guys less is more. All you can do is give it a try.
    Hopefully it will work.

    Quote Originally Posted by jockinthebox View Post
    You're not small...above average length-wise, actually. Just stick with your routine. Less may truly be MORE for you! We're ALL different, and gain with different techniques, some faster than others. Just be consistent, persistent and PATIENT! You cannot rush PE. Finding your own proper intensity and frequency along with the exercises that will work for YOU is KEY to successful PE & growth. STAY FOCUSED, you'll get there!
    Thanks. I know I'm a bit above average in length but I just feel small haha. Could be because my girth is terrible (4.5 MEG) but it's not stopping me from the journey.

    Quote Originally Posted by biggerjones View Post
    You are NOT small. In fact you're above average in length. I think it's a natural fear that women will consider you less than a man, but most women aren't terrible people. I've never been called small and I was at 5.7" BPEL pretty much my whole adult life. I've actually been told I'm big by a couple good friends/girlfriends that I had been with for 6+ months back in college because they have only been with guys on the low side of average.

    In short, don't worry about it. Unless you wind up bringing some shallow girl back to your dorm you are more than enough to please anyone if you don't let your insecurities shine.

    It sounds like you have gained according to the pictures so i'm not sure what you're worried about anyway. Make sure you start taking measurements though, as they are more accurate than a picture. I still feel the same size for the most part, but the measurements show that i've gained. I would have given up after a week if I hadn't read the boatloads of success stories around here from regular folks that aren't getting paid to say it.

    Sure there are ads to pay for the site, but this is a true community of dudes(and ladies) sharing information about the very effective thing called PE
    Thanks for the kind words! Everyone is so helpful and inspiring here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jockinthebox View Post
    Oh, one other thing...since you're only 19, there's a very good chance you've got some more growing to do, too! Many guys don't attain all their natural growth until 21 or so. Have faith, PE WORKS!
    Exactly what I was thinking! I don't know whether the little gains I have seen are from natural growth or PE but hopefully they are from natural growth so I have more potential to gain from PE.
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  9. 03-24-2016 #9
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    @willdta

    Don't feel bad about 4.5meg. That was my size before I started PE a few months ago. I've been with 7 girls and I've been a snug fit in all of them and even gave most of them vaginal orgasms regularly without even "needing" foreplay. I never felt small at that size until my wife gave birth to our children, which led me here.

    Of course we all want more though! Enjoy the PE journey!
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    Starting(1-4-2016):
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  10. 03-24-2016 #10
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    Just listen to Big al and you will start gaining I tried the jelq free routine myself, and it worked great!
    Best of luck
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    Starting stats:
    01.08.2013: BPEL 6,3 x 4,3 MSEG
    22.06.2015: BPEL 7.6 x 5.30 MSEG(not cemented)
    After a long break:
    01.05.2016: BPEL 7.3 x 5.1 MSEG
    16.11.2018: BPEL 7.3 x 5.0-5.1 MSEG BSEG 5.3
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