Vitamins and Premature Ejaculation

[Boricua]

Then I guess that we will have to wait until others try it too. A good test subject could be elguevo. On his log he mentioned that he had an increase on his performance from last week to this one, the exact week he stopped using his multivitamins (I sent a PM to him last week to ask him if he could make the test, I hope that he can testify here too). He was doing other new things at the same time, so it would be interesting if he can make another test. If he takes the multis again and his performance decrease then without a doubt it will be because of the multivitamins. Of course someone can say that it is just a placebo effect (making it psychological) but as long as it works, who cares?

[Boricua]

Now I am going to mention my two theories on this:

1- The supplement is providing the body a nutrient needed to produce sperm. By having an ample supply of such nutrient the body becomes extremely effective producing semen and it produces it so fast that we need to release it.

2- The supplement is making the semen more liquid/thinner and makes it harder for our body to control it (it is harder for example to hold water in your hand than to hold ketchup).

[Boricua]

Then I guess that we will have to wait until others try it too. A good test subject could be elguevo. On his log he mentioned that he had an increase on his performance from last week to this one, the exact week he stopped using his multivitamins (I sent a PM to him last week to ask him if he could make the test, I hope that he can testify here too). He was doing other new things at the same time, so it would be interesting if he can make another test. If he takes the multis again and his performance decrease then without a doubt it will be because of the multivitamins. Of course someone can say that it is just a placebo effect (making it psychological) but as long as it works, who cares?

Thinking of it again, it can't be a placebo effect anyway because as I said before I wasn't expecting to have a better performance and sameel said that from HIS EXPERIENCE (not because he read it somewhere) he felt that supplements affects his performance.

[Pegasus]

If your body lacks a nutrient it can lower testosterone .

[Venti]

Now I am going to mention my two theories on this:

1- The supplement is providing the body a nutrient needed to produce sperm. By having an ample supply of such nutrient the body becomes extremely effective producing semen and it produces it so fast that we need to release it.

2- The supplement is making the semen more liquid/thinner and makes it harder for our body to control it (it is harder for example to hold water in your hand than to hold ketchup).

I don't think there is correlation between semen consistency and stamina.

If the supplements do cause premE it's most likely that they affect neurotransmitter and hormone levels like increasing histamine, adrenaline etc.

[sameel]

I don't think there is correlation between semen consistency and stamina.

If the supplements do cause premE it's most likely that they affect neurotransmitter and hormone levels like increasing histamine, adrenaline etc.

Excess of any nutrient is equally dangerous than deficiency, and it produces more histamine to protect the cells from damage.
In case of a normal person, the effect may not be so visible. But if you are already high in histamine, the effect is most obvious.

[Venti]

I recently changed my diet in a rather radical way introducing lots of fresh fruit and vegetables like nightshades compared to what I had been eating prior. I got issues with stamina out of the blue without changing anything from my yoga and edging routine. I think I was allergic to some of the foods I started eating in large quantities which caused significant increase in histamine causing premE issues. I haven't identified yet the exact cause but it seems now to be reversed back to normal after modifying my diet further.

I agree about nutrient balance being very important. It's especially important with fat soluble vitamins and most minerals as they accumulate to the body. It doesn't mean that water soluble vitamins like Bs would be safe to megadose either while the effects would likely be more easily reversible. Another problem of nutrient excesses is that they can deplete other nutrients or interfere with their absorption amplifying the disbalance of nutrients.

[Boricua]

Your post is very interesting. If a change in diet can cause issues in stamina imagine how much more havoc supplements can do. Sometimes supplements come with ridiculous megadoses. For example you can find everywhere B-12 supplements with doses of 5000 mcg for a whooping 83,333% of daily value. I bought one of those and in a matter of days I began developing rashes on my skin. To make things worse as human beings we always think that more is better and when we buy a supplement we always choose one with a hefty dose on it.

[Venti]

It's not necessarily that supplements can wreak more havoc as there would be two different mechanisms for histamine response here. I had a good balance of the micronutrients from these foods but eating unprocessed food like fresh fruit contains many more compounds than just the nutritional value. Polyphenols etc. And they can cause allergic reactions to some people increasing histamine. Overdoses of nutrients can also be achieved from food but I don't think it was the case here. I changed too many variables at once to say for sure what was the cause but the effects were definately noticeable.


Another pathway to dysregulate histamine or other transmitters in the body is nutrient excesses and deficiencies. Unbalanced cofactors for the enzymatic reactions can lead to changes in hormonal balance. Results wary a lot obviously because there are so many variables to account for which is why some are fine using the same supplements.

I agree the doses on some vitamin supplements are ridiculous. I had a B vitamin complex that had up to 3000% of the daily value for some B vitamins. People often consider them as just additions to diet because of the word supplementation and that they contain same compounds found in food. It isn't natural at all to get these compounds by 10-fold higher doses than is achieved by diet. In a way megadoses are closer to pharmaceutical drugs by effects, safety and naturality. I would advice against them unless you really know what you are doing.

[Anklepain]

It seems that vitamins have something to do with premature ejaculation. Now there are three of us: Aleistercr, Axorr and myself. I know some of you don't see a correlation because you don't use any kind of supplements but you can have an excess without supplements. For example if you drink lots of milk you can have a calcium excess and lots of vitamin D and A. It would be good that some doctor or pegym do a research with blood tests to see if people with premature ejaculation have an excess of a determined vitamin or mineral. I don't know if we can do the tests ourselves and comment in this forum any vitamin excess to see if we discover a correlation. If anyone of you know if this test can be done and the average cost please comment it.

There are at least 4 of you now who got Pre E when using vitamins. Here is another thread about 4th member https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...cotrienol.html

If you guys are sure that vitamin E is the cause for your Pre E then I am going to stop eating trout to see if it works for me. I eat trout 1-2/week since I was a kid. Trout have a lot of vitamin E. These trout are not wild, they are augmented.

The problem is I dont know how long it takes to get excessive vitamin E to flush from my body. I read somewhere that vitamin K can maybe do the job.