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    I have read all the manuals,studied the anatomy of ejaculation, done the exercises, taken the 5htp to increase serotonin etc etc and the same problem always occurs and I hope someone can interject a comment or solution.....My problem is not controlling my orgasm as in I shoot too quick because I recognise my "point of no return"..... but the problem is I get the tickle sensation of coming almost 30 seconds upon entering then i either have to stop or pullout or cum all which are not favourable options to my girlfriend or myself.Even after I pull out and let things "cool"down again I get the tickle upon entering and fell like im going to cum.This never happens with oral sex just vaginal penitration.How do I make that "tickle sensation" stop from happening so quick.Its kinda like touching a red hot burner and expecting not to get burned it just won't happen and thats what I feel like when I enter with penitration the tickle happens immediately I don't shoot because I can control it but I really can't thrust or I will cum............anyone have the same issue or could help Im considering just learning to Dry orgasm...

  • #2
    since it only happens with intercouse it could indicate that the isue is in your head

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    • #3
      No its been a life long problem its not in my head,I know when the "tickle" sensation happens and it happens only with penetration and always in the first 30 secs but when I have alcohol I don't get the sensation or during oral sex which leads me to believe its a central nervous system issue or ejaculation reflex

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      • #4
        JWBB may be right, it is mental I assume.

        Ron Jeremy came and spoke at my college (Texas Tech) during my first year of my Masters degree (about 3 years ago).

        HE said that he would think about dead dogs or his grandma to keep from cumming.

        Also, I don't see why pulling out should upset your girl, many women like it. Just keep doing it and think of burning flesh and feces and maggots, this will work.

        ALSO, you MUST relax completely your PC muscle.

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        • #5
          Bendricks...do you get the same effect when using a condom?

          This should give you less feeling and maybe help you control this better. I myself have a long distance relationship so when I meet my girlfriend this happens to me for the first week when I am very turned on...the more sex I have the more "conditioned" I get and therefore I reduce the problem.

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          • #6
            I can somewhat relate to this issue, since something similar used to happen to me.

            For me the issue was in my head, in my muscles and in my technique.

            First, I think it's a very bad idea to start seeing (and if you're real imaginative smelling) dead dogs and your grandma. Why? For me sex is all about being in the moment and experiencing everything and as much as I can. And it doesn't really solve your problem I think.

            Before I started PE my solution was to ejaculate two or three times during sex.
            When I started PE, kegels and edging has helped both my muscles and mental control.
            For some time I've also been practicing dry orgams and male multiple orgasms (by doing exercises I found in a Tantric/Taoist book about male orgasm and sex). From this I learned about deep breathing, relaxing and energy flows (forget about them for now).

            calexito mentions, what I believe, is one key - it certainly was for me; you need to relax your PC muscle (and learn how to breath deeeeeep).

            I would focus on three main things to begin with:
            (1) Get 100% control over your PC muscle and learn how to use it.
            (2) Practice edging/ballooning and focus on your internal sensations, getting to know your orgasm in detail.
            (3) Do deep breathing exercises and learn how to relax while aroused.

            You can find all the info you need on this forum.

            And please... spare your grandma and enjoy every single second of sex instead, it will help you with your issue as well as make sex better.

            Good luck!
            "History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again."
            - Maya Angelou

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            • #7
              Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
              First, I think it's a very bad idea to start seeing (and if you're real imaginative smelling) dead dogs and your grandma. Why?
              How can Ron Jeremy be wrong, hahahaha. I see your point, pinball, but I was just trying to give an array of theories

              Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
              For me sex is all about being in the moment and experiencing everything and as much as I can. And it doesn't really solve your problem I think.
              Yes, me too, but if something works in small increments of time and makes the OVERALL EXPERIENCE BETTER, isn't worth a shot, just once? May help trigger an understanding of your physical ques so that you can begin to learn DURING sex what you need to do to "just do it" as in controlling when you come.


              Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
              I found in a Tantric/Taoist book about male orgasm and sex). From this I learned about deep breathing, relaxing and energy flows (forget about them for now).
              THIS is a really good idea, and solution to the dead burning dog flesh antidote.

              Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
              calexito mentions, what I believe, is one key - it certainly was for me; you need to relax your PC muscle (and learn how to breath deeeeeep).
              DAMN RIGHT! But, its calixto, no "e", but, no biggie.

              Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
              You can find all the info you need on this forum.
              Very true.

              Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
              And please... spare your grandma and enjoy every single second of sex instead, it will help you with your issue as well as make sex better. Good luck!
              HAHAHAHA, spare your grandama, HILARIOUS BRO, I love it, hahahahahahaha very true, sorry, was just an idea.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by calixto View Post
                How can Ron Jeremy be wrong, hahahaha. I see your point, pinball, but I was just trying to give an array of theories...
                On the other hand, how can RJ NOT be wrong? Did you see that documentary that was made some years ago? Very sad.

                Originally posted by calixto View Post
                Yes, me too, but if something works in small increments of time and makes the OVERALL EXPERIENCE BETTER, isn't worth a shot, just once?
                Think you're right man, everything is worth a try - as long as we are also in search of the best possible long term solution - god knows I've gotten my own fair share of grandma smell!

                Originally posted by calixto View Post
                DAMN RIGHT! But, its calixto, no "e", but, no biggie.
                Ooops, sorry about that calixto... One of my old favorite bands are called Calexico, guess my mind messed me up and mixed you guys up.
                "History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again."
                - Maya Angelou

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                • #9
                  I suggest you practise reverse kegals ,this seems to have a relaxing effect on the kegal muscles.

                  It seems the 2 main methods of do, are the relaxation method that larrypinball talks of and active method.
                  Several members, have recently increased sexual endurance ,through relaxing the kegal muscles. They managed this in a short period, however do(dry orgasm) with this method is another question.
                  In any case I think this is the best next step for you. If you are still interested in do after that go to the mmo group (male multi orgasm).
                  Larry I think many members of the mmo group would be interested in hearing about your method. I take it the deep breathing you mentioned is diaphram breathing?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
                    On the other hand, how can RJ NOT be wrong? Did you see that documentary that was made some years ago? Very sad.
                    No dude, please tell me about the documentary!

                    Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
                    Think you're right man, everything is worth a try - as long as we are also in search of the best possible long term solution - god knows I've gotten my own fair share of grandma smell!
                    HAHAHA, thanks, yeah, I know its not "the best" idea, and Pegasus is right here, meaning that YOU are right, I just heard of this and sounded worth a try in the very short term.

                    Originally posted by larrypinball View Post
                    Ooops, sorry about that calixto... One of my old favorite bands are called Calexico, guess my mind messed me up and mixed you guys up.
                    No problem bro! So I gotta youtube this band, they are pretty good huh?

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                    • #11
                      thats exactly my problem, im getting to aroused when I enter a women its simply the sensation of only my glans slowly entering that makes me not relax my pc muscle at all.. hard to train that case.. same happens during a handjob when the glans is touched lightly... if its touched rough there is no problem..
                      if we use condoms its easier and i can go for a while..

                      do think its a menal problem, told my gf about it..
                      edging didnt help that much i expected (long distance rs, so 7 weeks of practice and no remarkable progress)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                        Larry I think many members of the mmo group would be interested in hearing about your method. I take it the deep breathing you mentioned is diaphram breathing?
                        Pegasus, I will definitely be joining the group!

                        Regarding the breathing I actually just mean belly breathing which, I suppose, is not what you mean? It's real simple (diaphragm breathing at least sounds advanced) both facts and execution. Most people (forgot percentage) breath shallow using just a fragment of their lung capacity and therefore not supplying the body with as much oxygen as is possible. Just by breathing deep, using your belly the whole body and mind relaxes and benefits largely from the "new" amount of oxygen supplied to it (some magic, huh?). Same as basic meditation. I find that during sex or edging/ballooning it has the same effect; helps my body (including PC muscle) and mind to relax and move energy around.
                        "History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again."
                        - Maya Angelou

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by calixto View Post
                          No dude, please tell me about the documentary!
                          Porn Star: The Legend of Ron Jeremy

                          Originally posted by calixto View Post
                          HAHAHA, thanks, yeah, I know its not "the best" idea, and Pegasus is right here, meaning that YOU are right, I just heard of this and sounded worth a try in the very short term.
                          I hear you! From own experience I know (for me at least) that short term fixes don't solve long term problems - although, as you say, they can be VERY benefitial short term.

                          Originally posted by calixto View Post
                          No problem bro! So I gotta youtube this band, they are pretty good huh?
                          Njjaaaeee (as I would say in Swedish), I used to like them. But their name is real cool!
                          "History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again."
                          - Maya Angelou

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                          • #14
                            I recommend using a fleshlight frequently and vigorously, or the "death grip" while masturbating. Of all the ways to try to treat an oversensitivity problem, desensitizing is a pretty fantastic approach.

                            For example, say right now you masturbate 7 times a week, and relatively gently. If you start doing it 14 or 21 times per week, and do it a bit rougher, to really arousing porn, (and can still achieve good erections despite spending the extra energy) you'll start lasting longer.

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                            • #15
                              Interesting enough approach beaver, but to me it seems that desensitizing eventually will mean you have to convert to REsensitizing. Wouldn't recommend it though since there may be far more negative side-effects (well documented on the web and all over this forum, do a search) from using porn and mastubration for desensitizing.

                              Also, isn't sex about enjoying and using your senses to the fullest? I believe so.
                              "History, despite its wrenching pain, cannot be unlived, but if faced with courage, need not be lived again."
                              - Maya Angelou

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