Involuntary kegels and the BC reflex

**Big Al** · 08-12-2017

Some are complaining about involuntary kegels when stimulated when the issue might actually be a natural response known as the Bulbocavernosus reflex. This is a very important distinction as one is a sign of potential strain/overwork while the other is a completely natural phenomenon.

**Jay1983** · 08-12-2017

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2913351

**Big Al** · 08-12-2017

Originally Posted by Jay1983

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2913351

Good study link

**Polyorchid** · 08-12-2017

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20193361/

**spammer** · 08-12-2017

Originally Posted by Big Al

Some are complaining about involuntary kegels when stimulated when the issue might actually be a natural response known as the Bulbocavernosus reflex. This is a very important distinction as one is a sign of potential strain/overwork while the other is a completely natural phenomenon.

Involuntary kegels are not necessarily caused by strain/overwork. They could be due to over excitement, anxiety, lack of general fitness or probably other reasons. An important question is how does one distinct involuntary kegels from BC reflex.

**Big Al** · 08-12-2017

Originally Posted by spammer

Involuntary kegels are not necessarily caused by strain/overwork. They could be due to over excitement, anxiety, lack of general fitness or probably other reasons. An important question is how does one distinct involuntary kegels from BC reflex.

You're correct- there are a number of reasons why IKs may be caused. There's a lot of confusion on this issue and it's easy to think one might have one type of issue when it's something else altogether- or even not an issue at all.

**Jay1983** · 08-12-2017

This BC reflex information needs to be mentioned in the premature ejaculation forum stickies, if it's not already. And I'm speaking on behalf of what I have suffered. It needs to spread like wild fire.

Thank you.

**Big Al** · 08-12-2017

Glad to be of service

UPDATE: As per the request- added to MUST READ Sticky Threads - Premature Ejaculation Forum

**Pegasus** · 08-12-2017

Sorry I don't understand what does this even mean.?

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Abstract

Measurement of the bulbocavernosus reflex is used widely to diagnose underlying neurogenic disorders in erectile dysfunction. A prolonged bulbocavernosus reflex latency (that is more than 45 msec.) or the absence of a reflex response of the bulbocavernosus muscles during electrical stimulation of the glans penis is considered a sign of neurological disease. Since only a few experimental studies have been performed in man related to the neurophysiological mechanism of erection, and since the results of these studies were contradictory the diagnostic validity of bulbocavernosus reflex measurement was reassessed. We determine whether men with abnormal bulbocavernosus reflex latencies have concomitant organic erectile dysfunction as confirmed by nocturnal plethysmographic and rigidity recordings. The bulbocavernosus reflex was recorded in 90 subjects and 19 had abnormal bulbocavernosus reflex latencies. Of these 19 subjects 8 had normal nocturnal erections, thus, confirming a diagnosis of psychogenic impotence. These results cast some doubts on the validity of bulbocavernosus reflex measurement for the diagnosis of organic erectile dysfunction due to a neurological disease.

PMID: 2913351
[Indexed for MEDLINE]

**Big Al** · 08-12-2017

If the glans is pressed, then automatic contractions should occur. An absence of reaction is not a good sign.

Note where it discusses a "hyperexcitable" BC reflex in reference to premature ejaculation. I think it's likely this is what's being referenced with genuine cases of IKs.