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- 06-11-2019 #51
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Just an update. It’s been awhile, so this is gonna be all over the place.
I’ve been pretty consistent with my routine, which include:
-yoga/APT stretches
-tennis ball massages daily
-RK’ing & edging whenever I can
-coming here daily to indulge myself in more info
I’ve also noticed that the very underside of my shaft closest to my body and right before the front of my balls has a little sensitive part that feels like a button. Massaging that area elicits some good sensations and sorta makes me horny & erect. Seems like it’s the front part of my PF, maybe the BC? Idk. Gonna keep massaging that area too and hope it makes a difference.
Hindi squats have improved. I had trouble doing them before, but I believe that was due to tight/weak hips and hip flexors. Now I can get down and stay there more comfortably. I don’t necessarily stay there for the 10 min sessions as recommended, but that’s more due to fatigue than pain/weakness/tightness.
I feel like my RK’s are beginning to feel more effective. I do feel much more expansion in my PF. I feel like the tightness has subsided a little and there’s much more flexibility and looseness in the area. However I am still unable to consistently use it during sex/edging to lower my arousal/EQ levels on demand.
When it comes to actual sex though, I feel like I’ve made minimal progress. Last night I was able to get head for quite awhile without any sense of my PONR coming. Switched over to sex, and within a couple of strokes I got that dreaded feeling of PONR looming once again. I put myself is posterior tilt, switched positions, RK’d as hard & and often as I could, but it wouldn’t go away.
I think my problem is that I’ve noticed when my PF is in neutral position, I don’t really get much pleasure from edging. I can stroke away at a reasonable and even optimal erection level there, but it doesn’t feel good. Once I start even a little tug from my PF (slight IK), things begin to feel much better, but the PONR is basically right around the corner. Every stroke after that pull comes brings an even harder tug. I guess what it comes down to is that I need to somehow find a plateau phase. I need to find edging/sex more pleasurable without cumming.
This is really the most powerless I’ve felt in my life. I’ve been battling this thing for years, yet despite all of these Hindi squats, happy baby posing, hip thrusting, RKing, etc I’m still at my irreversible PONR within my first couple of strokes of sex. Sh*t is really disheartening, discouraging, frustrating, etc and as much as I wanna give up, I can’t. I gotta just keep working hard and hope that eventually I’ll have a real & consistent breakthrough.
I’m thinking maybe I need to buy a STU, but I have nowhere to keep it and would hate for my GF and/or roommates to see it and wonder wtf, lol. Also thinking of maybe seeing a physiotherapist for my PF? Maybe my PF is so tight that it needs a specialist to loosen it.
That’s it for now. Thanks for reading. All comments/criticisms/suggestions are welcomed. Peace fellow PE brothers. Keep fighting.
- 06-11-2019 #52
Iv had this told to me and I wonder if you are focusing only on the physical and not considering the mental aspect too. I think the moment we feel the ponr coming, thinking about it makes us come faster. Also could just be arousal control over visuals and sounds in the bedroom that makes it so much harder to control then just rks.
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- 06-12-2019 #53
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Time, definitely buy some kind of pocket pussy or STU. I have a very cheap, small one, my dick doesn't even fit all the way in but the stimulation is 10x as much as when you edge. A device like that stimulates so many areas at the same time, just as in real sex. IMO you can't compare edging with your hand to real sex and expect progress (I'm sure some do but to me it's a different animal).
I've been working on my pre e for months too, and I'm just starting to feel like it's improving slowly. Muscles/habits just don't change overnight.
Also: check if your stomach is tense throughout the day. I found this to be the key to my latest improvements, my stomach was always tucked in and I#m pretty sure there's a connection from abs to BC muscle so no wonder why it's so tense down there!Progress Log: 45 Days: Angion Method & Fordyce Spots
https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...yce-spots.html
07/02/18: 6,9 x 4,9
08/16/18: ? x ?
- 06-12-2019 #54
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It could be a factor, for sure, considering I’ve repeatedly had oh so many failures over and over trying to fix this. My gut tells me that my issue is primarily physical, but I’m definitely open to improving the mental aspect of it. I do go in with a positive mindset that I’m going to please my gf, but as soon as I get a couple of strokes in those uncontrollable IKs inevitably come and I get so discouraged and think “oh great here we go again” like it’s clockwork. Not going to lie my arousal with my GF hasn’t even been that high lately. Not her fault, it’s just hard to get so excited when I anticipate failure around the corner. I know I’ve gotta change that, but it’s not going to happen without a taste of success to boost my confidence. I’ve gotta get those damn IKs under control!
- 06-12-2019 #55
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Thanks so much for your reply.
I think I’m gonna go ahead and purchase one soon. Is flashlight.com the best place to get it? Just did a quick google search and that’s what came up. Do I have to get lube for it too? If so, what do you recommend?
I’ve been working out my abs and my hamstrings a lot because I’ve read how weakness in them can cause PF imbalance. Unfortunately thus far it hasn’t really made much of a difference. My PF is usually tight when I pay attention to it and I’m always consciously trying to loosen it up with a variety of different RKs. I’ll now pay attention to my abs as well.
Thanks again for your input man!
- 06-12-2019 #56
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I'd encourage you to reconsider this, since you followed this statement with and I know you're thinking that those negative thoughts will go away if you didn't have the physical issue, but your physical response is more affected by what's going through your head than you realize.
- 06-12-2019 #57
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You're absolutely right. I try to have a positive mindset, but it just feels like false confidence. No matter how much I tell myself that I can do this, the results are always consistently the same which makes it hard to believe in myself. Any tips man? Thanks for your reply.
- 06-12-2019 #58
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6/12/19 Entry
Just completed my routine. Unfortunately it didn't yield much positive results. Did my usual stretches, then followed it up with an edging session. I started off by massaging that area which feels like a button that I referred to in the previous post, which is the very back & bottom of my penis right before my balls. Doing this helped stimulate me; engorging my penis & triggering little IK's towards my anus. These particular IKs however don't make me feel as if I'm going to ejaculate anytime soon or anything like that. From there I then started edging with lotion, while slowly deep breathing & RK'ing. Within minutes I hit a PONR, so I stopped edging completely and did some RK'ing to help bring my arousal + erection level down. Afterwards I was unable to really get back hard so I looked at some photos of some hot girls (with clothes on) and worked my way back up. Still unable to hit any plateau, because as soon as my strokes started feeling anywhere remotely good the IKs came roaring back despite any intervention I attempted (RK, reposition, etc). Worst part of it all was I again went with the "f*ck it" and ended up cumming.
Worth noting that I did do legs last night and I was feeling tight from the waist down, but still.
I do feel like maybe I'm kind of rushing this, but at the same time, I am putting a lot of work into it. Maybe the aspect of edging I am kind of rushing. I just am worried that I am wasting precious time doing this, when maybe I'm simply a complicated case that's a lost cause. I don't mind doing all these stretches everyday, but it's just taking the life out of me not to see any kind of results.
Also forgot to mention that I've been trying to use PYT. I've tried it roughly 5 times. There's been at least 4 instances where it did nothing. I felt hey, maybe I didn't put enough. I put more one time, and I was unable to cum. Not bad I thought. However, the next time after, I wasn't able to get hard at all.
Also should mention that I've been on Lexapro in the past for my diagnosed anxiety & depression. This drug is known to help PE'ers last long. My first time around I was able to have decent sex with my GF. After that, however, I was back to being a 2 pump chump. I'm now off it as I discovered that those symptoms were a results of hypogonadism. I now am on TRT which thankfully helped with the anxiety & depression, but obviously I've still got my PE issue.
As frustrating as this is, I can't give up. I'm jealous of all the guys out there that are getting to f*ck hard trying to get a nut, like normal people. Meanwhile I'm doing all these weird stretches and praying to God I can keep mine in. I feel like nothing works for me. It is what it is. I'm going to keep trying, and praying. . .Last edited by TimeALWAYStells; 06-12-2019 at 06:49 PM.
- 06-13-2019 #59
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I bought mine in a store + lube as well, right. Not sure what exactly to consider when buying lube, just try one out I guess.
Also: stop thinking about other guys who don't need all the stretches and all that and focus on the things you can actually change! Trust me I've been on this journey for a long time too but every few weeks I learn something new which gives me new hope to cure that thing and all along the journey I've learnt SO MUCH about my body that is just good for me as a person in general! (like APT, PF tension, stomach tension, mind control, etc). Thx to my pre e problem I love to stretch my whole body now everyday and I just feel so much more relaxed and smooth in general now (even though I was pretty chill before, but nothing can worry me now!).
Also considering edging... In the past, when my sessions were disappointing, I was so mad at myself that I haven't improved yet. But just recently, I completely changed my mindset. I'm going into my sessions expecting absolutely nothing, just monitoring my symptoms. Yesterday I had a bad session, came after like 2 minutes, but I was laughing almost hysterically afterwards because of how badly I forgot to be aware of my sensations. It was going great for the first 1m30s and I felt way too good and went too fast and wham. But I'm at the point now where I can almost always tell what went wrong, so my endgame is to finally put it all together and become automatic!
Remember: you don't fail, you learn! And trust the processProgress Log: 45 Days: Angion Method & Fordyce Spots
https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...yce-spots.html
07/02/18: 6,9 x 4,9
08/16/18: ? x ?
- 06-13-2019 #60
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I worked with that area with some success in the past.
https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...orking-me.html
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