Pau yuen tong question

[Tooners88]

Well last night I tried the PYT balm and waited an hour before masturbating. Waiting an hour rather than 20 minutes seems to make the balm more effective. However, I think freezing it has ruined the product. I was only able to masturbate around 20 to 30 minutes. As opposed to over an hour before sticking it in the freezer. So I think I will order another balm and see if it is just me or not. I don't know how long this product can sit in the closet before it "expires". I am not sexually active right now so I just need it in case of pussy starts growing on trees.

I need to do more testing but so far it seems that even 1 hour isn't enough for maximum effect. My best results came from waiting around 3 hours and then doing one more application maybe an hour before... I don't know if the second application is even necessary but it definitely appears that waiting longer after the first one (2-3 hours perhaps) is ideal to really let it sink in.

[latuda]

i just tryed for the second time yesterday too, same application as the last time, i dont realy know if i dont apply enought or not, i waited 1 hour and began masturbate, i had difficulty having a good erection and barely lasted under 10minutes, not the same efficacity from the first time trying it seem

[Tooners88]

i just tryed for the second time yesterday too, same application as the last time, i dont realy know if i dont apply enought or not, i waited 1 hour and began masturbate, i had difficulty having a good erection and barely lasted under 10minutes, not the same efficacity from the first time trying it seem

Try applying it 3 hours before with one more application about an hour before and see how that goes.

I don't know if the second application is truly needed but my experience is that 1 hour isn't enough time for the full effect.

[watersnake]

Could you drink a tea of this mixture?

[latuda]

i read somewhere someone who improved his PE by drinking clove tea on a forum dont remember where, so i dont know if it's because of that ingredient that it's effective

a short google searsh show some things on cloves and PE:

Clove Creams:Cloves

are known for their numbing effect on toothaches, and the same can also be used to help with premature ejaculation. Clove topical cream can be applied an hour before sex and rinsed off before intercourse. Some men also report lasting longer in bed after taking clove tea.


Herbs to cure premature ejaculation

Clove is one of the best cures for premature ejaculation. You should drink clove tea two times every day until your symptoms improve. Other herbs to cure premature which can be sued include white onions, asparagus milk, passion flower and wild yam.

might give it a try may be try find tea clove

[watersnake]

And when cloves were first discovered in the East Indies by European traders it was taken to be an aphrodesiac and cure for all sorts of ills!

[DJchitown]

I will try 3 hours. But first I will try putting a hot cloth around my dick for a few minutes and then apply the bomb to see if it's able to penetrate better. At one point I even put the bomb over 3/4 of my entire penis and it didn't make a difference.

[Johnny D]

A had an interesting experience the second time I used PYT just the other night.

The first time I tried it, last week, I applied such a tiny amount that there wasn't much benefit. I mean, I used about as much as you could put on the head of a pin and the desensitizing effects were minor. But the other night I ran my finger tip across the surface of the balm very lightly, covering it with a thin film of balm, and applied that. This was about 90 minutes prior to sex and the effects were considerably more noticeable. As everyone says, it doesn't go numb like the sprays and gels, it just reduces the extreme sensitivity. I'm good at RK's and often RK prior to PONR but find it to be extremely challenging to do when trigger points are being stimulated. RK's were so much easier to feel and achieve with the balm. I could still feel everything, I just wasn't being bombarded with that hyper-sensitivity every time. Cool!

But here's the really interesting phenomenon... I have a pretty strong kegel and can allow myself to get pretty close to PONR and then halt the orgasm with a hard, strong kegel. However, I also have to slow down considerably and usually completely stop for 5 seconds or so. Then I can get back at it. But this time, with the balm in effect, I didn't have to stop or even slow down. My fiance already came once and was just about to go again when the urge hit me. Since she's usually fine with one or two, I decided that I'd go with her on her second if it "came" to that (pun fully intended). But I also thought that I'd go ahead and hard kegel just in case it took her a few more seconds. So I was fine with cumming, if I did, and fine with holding back for as long as I could resist it. Well... I held it back without stopping or slowing down for as long as I wanted to. It was a pretty hard kegel, sure, but I've done that before and the ejac always busts through. Not this time - this time I held it back just with a kegel and nothing more. It's either a really amazing coincidence or there's something to the way PYT desensitizes that reduces just enough of the trigger point stimulation to allow this to happen. Typically, I can kegel just as hard but I will still feel the sensitive trigger point(s) being stimulated and it's just not possible to hold back the ejac. This time, I could feel the kegel and the resistance to cum more than I could feel the trigger points. Yet, at the same time, I still could feel what was happening physically. Just without being bombarded with it.

Hoping for more of the same tonight...

[Tooners88]

A had an interesting experience the second time I used PYT just the other night.

The first time I tried it, last week, I applied such a tiny amount that there wasn't much benefit. I mean, I used about as much as you could put on the head of a pin and the desensitizing effects were minor. But the other night I ran my finger tip across the surface of the balm very lightly, covering it with a thin film of balm, and applied that. This was about 90 minutes prior to sex and the effects were considerably more noticeable. As everyone says, it doesn't go numb like the sprays and gels, it just reduces the extreme sensitivity. I'm good at RK's and often RK prior to PONR but find it to be extremely challenging to do when trigger points are being stimulated. RK's were so much easier to feel and achieve with the balm. I could still feel everything, I just wasn't being bombarded with that hyper-sensitivity every time. Cool!

But here's the really interesting phenomenon... I have a pretty strong kegel and can allow myself to get pretty close to PONR and then halt the orgasm with a hard, strong kegel. However, I also have to slow down considerably and usually completely stop for 5 seconds or so. Then I can get back at it. But this time, with the balm in effect, I didn't have to stop or even slow down. My fiance already came once and was just about to go again when the urge hit me. Since she's usually fine with one or two, I decided that I'd go with her on her second if it "came" to that (pun fully intended). But I also thought that I'd go ahead and hard kegel just in case it took her a few more seconds. So I was fine with cumming, if I did, and fine with holding back for as long as I could resist it. Well... I held it back without stopping or slowing down for as long as I wanted to. It was a pretty hard kegel, sure, but I've done that before and the ejac always busts through. Not this time - this time I held it back just with a kegel and nothing more. It's either a really amazing coincidence or there's something to the way PYT desensitizes that reduces just enough of the trigger point stimulation to allow this to happen. Typically, I can kegel just as hard but I will still feel the sensitive trigger point(s) being stimulated and it's just not possible to hold back the ejac. This time, I could feel the kegel and the resistance to cum more than I could feel the trigger points. Yet, at the same time, I still could feel what was happening physically. Just without being bombarded with it.

Hoping for more of the same tonight...

Thanks for the input. Glad to hear about your positive experience, and I doubt it's a coincidence.

I'm repeating myself here and I really don't know for certain (someone correct me if this doesn't make sense) but I'm pretty sure what's happening is that the balm is dampening the nerve signal from the trigger zone to the BC muscle. Normally the signal shoots to the BC muscle with full force, causing it to contract, and these contractions are what lead to ejaculation. With that signal dampened it takes way more stimulation to really fire the BC muscle up. This is why RK's and kegels are so much more effective when using the balm - the dick to pelvic floor signal is weaker, but the brain to pelvic floor signal hasn't changed, so you can still exert the same control over the muscles as usual and this leads to an even greater effect.

When you say you use a kegel to prevent ejaculation, are you referring to a front kegel, back kegel, or both at the same time? (I don't have much experience with regular kegels so I don't know exactly how they're typically used for this purpose)

[Johnny D]

Thanks for the input. Glad to hear about your positive experience, and I doubt it's a coincidence.

I'm repeating myself here and I really don't know for certain (someone correct me if this doesn't make sense) but I'm pretty sure what's happening is that the balm is dampening the nerve signal from the trigger zone to the BC muscle. Normally the signal shoots to the BC muscle with full force, causing it to contract, and these contractions are what lead to ejaculation. With that signal dampened it takes way more stimulation to really fire the BC muscle up. This is why RK's and kegels are so much more effective when using the balm - the dick to pelvic floor signal is weaker, but the brain to pelvic floor signal hasn't changed, so you can still exert the same control over the muscles as usual and this leads to an even greater effect.

When you say you use a kegel to prevent ejaculation, are you referring to a front kegel, back kegel, or both at the same time? (I don't have much experience with regular kegels so I don't know exactly how they're typically used for this purpose)

Mostly a front kegel, although when I'm really bearing down, both are engaged. But it's really the contraction of the front that I'm doing and feeling the most to halt ejaculation.

Nerves send signals to the brain which then sends signals to muscles. The balm wouldn't literally dampen a signal between a nerve in the penis and a pelvic muscle simply because the signal doesn't travel directly that way. It is dulling the response of the nerve so that it's not sending such a strong signal to the brain but it's doing it without deadening a whole bunch of other nerves or something, the way the sprays you can get at the drug store seem to do. Those sprays are like something the dentist uses and are somewhat binary in their response. By design, they shut off the nerve so it tells the brain, "There's nothing happening here. I know you think there is but there isn't so move along". Whereas the balm doesn't quite shut it off, so instead the nerve tells the brain, "There's definitely something happening here but it's nothing to be alarmed about. We'll let you know when you're needed". And, of course, the balm isn't on my PF muscles so I still have complete control of them. So I was able to restrain ejac with a kegel without the brain being bombarded with signals of overwhelming sensations that would have otherwise flooded right through, no matter how hard I contract.