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**WillGetBetter** · 10-30-2018

Originally Posted by Hanginthere2018

Hm just tried it and much improved. more forward but still abs engaged. Can guys isolate RK with no ab engagement?

Another way to try forward reverse kegels is to get on your hands and knees, arch your back like a cat, and then try one. This position also helps to rotate your hips to counter act the APT issue.

If those things are helping, then I would do some pelvic floor stretches and some of the APT exercises.

**WillGetBetter** · 10-30-2018

Had a bad edging session today. I was trying to see if I could shorten the beginning phase that requires me to go slow before reaching a plateau. I came out of the gate to fast and couldn’t recover. So, chalk it up to a learning experience.

**iwillbeatit** · 10-31-2018

Dont worry, my last 2 edging session was bad too. But the next one will be better you will see.
I was going to fast so i came to the ponr and didnt get really down, next time (today) i have to go a bit slower..my goal is 20min trushing in different speeds without break..

**TheR** · 10-31-2018

I've had a bad edging session today too. Not quite sure if anyone else has come across this but today I had a real bad pain in my penis whilst edging. I had this once before which came on after sex. Seems to be if I don't ejaculate for a few days mixed in with a day where I've done RKs for a longer period of time than normal?

**WillGetBetter** · 10-31-2018

Originally Posted by TheR

I've had a bad edging session today too. Not quite sure if anyone else has come across this but today I had a real bad pain in my penis whilst edging. I had this once before which came on after sex. Seems to be if I don't ejaculate for a few days mixed in with a day where I've done RKs for a longer period of time than normal?

I had that once. It felt a bit like “blue balls”. Even though it wasn’t my day to ejaculate, I tried to listen to what my body needed and went off schedule and came. It felt better the next day.

**TheR** · 11-01-2018

Originally Posted by WillGetBetter

I had that once. It felt a bit like “blue balls”. Even though it wasn’t my day to ejaculate, I tried to listen to what my body needed and went off schedule and came. It felt better the next day.

Yeah its strange, not like blue balls. Difficult to describe but its a sharp, shooting pain (really painful) which starts at the base of my penis and goes up. Subsided really quickly after ejaculating but happened twice to me now.

**WillGetBetter** · 11-01-2018

Originally Posted by TheR

Yeah its strange, not like blue balls. Difficult to describe but its a sharp, shooting pain (really painful) which starts at the base of my penis and goes up. Subsided really quickly after ejaculating but happened twice to me now.

Hmm, I don’t think I’ve had that before.

**TheR** · 11-01-2018

Yeah its a strange one. Edged earlier and was much better again. Took 3 minutes to get to the PONR with steady but constant thrusting. Couldn't last 30 seconds with the STU when I first got it so its progress! My involuntary kegals are less too and the sensation at PONR is much lower. I think I'm moving in the right direction with it now. Steady progress but I'm happy so far!

**venom888** · 11-07-2018

Congrats on all of your success WillGetBetter. I'm going to incorporate some of this, particularly the stretches. Two questions:

1. Did all of the stretching actually improve your APT (based on mirror side view of your posture)? Some people on Youtube/etc talk about fixing their APT within 2 months.

2. I have to wonder if the daily edging causes a temporary improvement, that you simply extend every day. Because when I have sex I have to start/stop a lot, but if I have sex the next day too, I feel less, and so perform better, and then a third consecutive day it's far better still. So if I had sex every day I would perform a LOT better even without doing anything special. Just throwing this out there for your thoughts, not trying to diminish what you've accomplished. Based on your progress I imagine a lot of it will stick with you, but it would be interesting to see what happens if you have zero sexual/masturbation activity for a few days. I've never had sex/masturbation more than three days in a row, but it seems like I would start to feel sore / feel much less sensation, to where it wouldn't be enjoyable anymore, so it's hard to imagine attacking this with your level of commitment.

**WillGetBetter** · 11-08-2018

Originally Posted by venom888

Congrats on all of your success WillGetBetter. I'm going to incorporate some of this, particularly the stretches. Two questions:

1. Did all of the stretching actually improve your APT (based on mirror side view of your posture)? Some people on Youtube/etc talk about fixing their APT within 2 months.

2. I have to wonder if the daily edging causes a temporary improvement, that you simply extend every day. Because when I have sex I have to start/stop a lot, but if I have sex the next day too, I feel less, and so perform better, and then a third consecutive day it's far better still. So if I had sex every day I would perform a LOT better even without doing anything special. Just throwing this out there for your thoughts, not trying to diminish what you've accomplished. Based on your progress I imagine a lot of it will stick with you, but it would be interesting to see what happens if you have zero sexual/masturbation activity for a few days. I've never had sex/masturbation more than three days in a row, but it seems like I would start to feel sore / feel much less sensation, to where it wouldn't be enjoyable anymore, so it's hard to imagine attacking this with your level of commitment.

Hey Venom-

I never looked at my side profile to see the APT swoop of my lower back. I’m about 1 month into my daily stretches and strengthening exercises. The way I have been monitoring it is by lying on the ground, and feeling the gap between my lower back and the ground with my hand. I haven’t been systematically measuring it with a ruler, but it feels like it’s getting lower. In terms of my ability to RK, even though my hips don’t sit naturally in the right position yet, I can get the RKs to work well by rotating my hips in the moment. So, there’s a work around for now.

I guess only time will tell if the progress I’ve made is due to me learning how to RK, relax, and breathe during sex, or if it is just due to the daily edging. This week might be a good test, because I’ve only edged once. I’ll let you know.