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**theGOAT** · 11-22-2018

Yes, I have experienced that.The right mindset is ''I will fuck your lights out and me and you are gonna enjoy it fully''.This kind of mindset helps me to relax a lot and this gives me a better stamina.

**WillGetBetter** · 11-25-2018

Originally Posted by theGOAT

Yes, I have experienced that.The right mindset is ''I will fuck your lights out and me and you are gonna enjoy it fully''.This kind of mindset helps me to relax a lot and this gives me a better stamina.

Thanks for the tip. I do need to work on my confidence now.

**WillGetBetter** · 11-25-2018

After reading about the HANS protocol, I realize there are a lot of similarities with the pelvic floor training I did. This may be helpful for those working on PreE.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-...-protocol.html

**TheR** · 11-25-2018

Originally Posted by theGOAT

Yes, I have experienced that.The right mindset is ''I will fuck your lights out and me and you are gonna enjoy it fully''.This kind of mindset helps me to relax a lot and this gives me a better stamina.

This is something I've not tried, but struggle with the concept of. Although I've read many people say go in there with the right mindset helps you alot. I think I've had PreE for so long and currently still fully expect it during sex I'd know I was lying to myself going in with that mindset. Might try it though! I think this would only help if you had some degree of confidence to begin with.

**WillGetBetter** · 11-25-2018

Originally Posted by TheR

This is something I've not tried, but struggle with the concept of. Although I've read many people say go in there with the right mindset helps you alot. I think I've had PreE for so long and currently still fully expect it during sex I'd know I was lying to myself going in with that mindset. Might try it though! I think this would only help if you had some degree of confidence to begin with.

Yeah, it’s hard to feel confident when it never goes how you want. I only gained some confidence once I had some success. But, both my confidence and my success has been up and down a bit. I do think that letting go of the expectation as much as possible would be something to work on. That helps me reduce my anxiety.

**venom888** · 11-25-2018

WillGetBetter: couple questions

- Do you, or at the beginning did you, get soreness after RKing? If I do it for just a few mins, I get soreness in my balls. Kinda sore now if I try an RK and I did them last night before bed. I don't feel like I'm pushing too hard, but maybe? When I do them I can focus it more in the scrotum area or further up along my penis, and I eventually get sore with either, but the lower one (not a back RK near my butt) causes me lasting soreness that doesn't feel "right". It doesn't feel like a good muscle soreness (the way it does higher up), but just hurts. (I'm not sure which RK area is correct so I do both.)

- If at a random time during the day you stop and think about whether your pf is tense or not, is it? Was it before you started this? Maybe tense isn't the word but there's tension to be relieved with an RK. If I think about it I can tell, yep, those muscles are engaged and I could definitely relax them, but I'm wondering if that's normal even if you have trained/elongated it the way you have now. I assume so to an extent but do you notice a big difference?

**WillGetBetter** · 11-26-2018

Originally Posted by venom888

WillGetBetter: couple questions

- Do you, or at the beginning did you, get soreness after RKing? If I do it for just a few mins, I get soreness in my balls. Kinda sore now if I try an RK and I did them last night before bed. I don't feel like I'm pushing too hard, but maybe? When I do them I can focus it more in the scrotum area or further up along my penis, and I eventually get sore with either, but the lower one (not a back RK near my butt) causes me lasting soreness that doesn't feel "right". It doesn't feel like a good muscle soreness (the way it does higher up), but just hurts. (I'm not sure which RK area is correct so I do both.)

- If at a random time during the day you stop and think about whether your pf is tense or not, is it? Was it before you started this? Maybe tense isn't the word but there's tension to be relieved with an RK. If I think about it I can tell, yep, those muscles are engaged and I could definitely relax them, but I'm wondering if that's normal even if you have trained/elongated it the way you have now. I assume so to an extent but do you notice a big difference?

I have had some soreness with RKs. I feel like it’s in my pelvic floor muscles. You mention the soreness is in your balls. Do you mean it’s in your actual testicles, or do you mean it’s just in the area near your balls? Are you doing any other PreE exercises? Just wondering if the pain in your balls may be from edging and not ejaculating or partially ejaculating?

I’m just going to ask this since there’s a lot of confusion about RKs. Do you feel like you are confident in the difference between kegels and reverse kegels? For me, I get way more sore when I do kegels then when I do reverse kegels.

I did have a weird feeling in the back when it was getting too loose from stretching and RKs. I ended up doing some kegels in the back to tighten things up.

At the beginning, I couldn’t tell that my pf was tight. I didn’t know what it felt like when it was loose. But, once I loosened it (mostly through stretching he pf muscles by doing various forms of Hindi squats and happy baby pose - and a few others), I realized that it was super tight all the time. Now, I can feel the difference when it is tight or loose. When it is tight, I cannot expand my pf when I try to RK. After a round of stretches it usually loosens up and I can RK again. My pf tighten up when I’ve been running or walking a lot, of I work out, or when I’ve been sitting and work all day.

Are you doing any stretches along with the RKs? The stretches really help!

**venom888** · 11-26-2018

Thanks for the response.

Today I feel like the pain is actually in my balls, but maybe it's in and behind. Maybe the pain is just being referred, I'm not sure. I did RKs last night and hadn't done them in 2-3 days.
I don't edge without ejaculating. Maybe I should, but I'm going to see if I can fix this without doing that. I think my IKs while using the fleshlight may be a little less intense already. Still can only do a few strokes without needing to stop, so maybe that's in my head heh.

Oh yeah, definitely not doing regular kegels. I haven't done those in quite a while (except for when I hit PONR), but I remember getting sore with those too. The soreness would be more along my penis, and feel similar to when I focus the RK higher up. Like it'll be sore literally near the tip/opening. I get a bit confused on the RKs because everyone talks about it being far lower, and I can definitely do it behind my balls and feel a ballooning feeling there, but can also do it along the shaft, and the normal kegels I do at PONR are definitely along my whole penis, not just somewhere near the base.

Unfortunately I can't do most of the stretches, like hindi squats, happy baby, etc. Reason being is I have an external hemorrhoid and any pressure in the back area there makes it swell/hurt/etc, which can take days to go away. It causes me some discomfort just on normal days (but not too much), and when it gets worse I can't do normal activities even. It's been to where I can't even walk. Only solution is surgery which I'm told is one of the worst / most painful recoveries of any surgery in existence. Doc said not to do it if I can at all live with it. I can't even do regular squats, because it makes it worse, so hindi is unfortunately out of the question for sure (tho I haven't tested the version against a wall to see if that's different). I tried a happy baby pose and immediately knew I shouldn't do that one either. It seems like those stretches have been huge for you (and others) so it sucks. I've been doing a little bit of butterfly stretch tho. I think it might help because those areas left and right of my groin get noticeably tight when I'm edging (fleshlight, standing).

I think my APT is a big part of my problem. I notice that once I have an erection my APT becomes far more pronounced, it takes a lot of effort and glute squeezing to get my hips rotated forward, and I can't breathe through my stomach anymore. My stomach juts out really far and so barely expands when I inhale, and it doesn't pull in on exhale. If I really try I can squeeze my abs inward when I exhale, but it's unrelated to my breath really. I also can't feel an RK. I'm doing exercises for my APT, but it seems like you don't have this issue? When I don't have an erection it's easy to rotate hips and pull my stomach in flat... And I can breath through my stomach no issue...

Sorry for the wall of text.

**WillGetBetter** · 11-26-2018

My general rule for soreness is if I feel some soreness the day of the exercise - no big deal. If I feel soreness the next day, then I take that day off and think about whether I over did it the day before.

I am not sure if I would be diagnosed with APT, but I cannot RK fully unless I rotate my hips forward.