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[WillGetBetter]

Will what do you think about DO and MMO?

Early in my PreE training, I had a few experiences with partial DO that were intriguing because of the increased stamina afterward. I was not strong enough and didn’t have the correct timing to pull it off during actual sex. So, I focused on increasing stamina by loosing the pelvic floor, breathing, and RKs. Since then, I have practiced some MMO techniques while edging, and have had some success. I tried one DO during real sex, but I think I was too early in my timing, so I didn’t feel a strong orgasm. I’m still working on it.

[Cephalus]

Excellent thread. You've seen good results with your training and lasting time. It's also very important, imo, to quantify and keep a log of every sexual encounter (since starting training). That way, over time (the 6 months you were talking about in the begining) you will have a clear, statistical, view over every sex encounter and see a pattern. This will give you added insight.

Cheers

[WillGetBetter]

A quick update to catalog something that has worked for me over the past week and some thoughts on chronic pelvic floor tightness.

Pelvic floor tightness and APT are major contributors to the PreE I had. Stretching has helped loosen my pelvic floor, but certain activities (skiing, walking up the stairs, running/hiking, etc) tighten my pelvic floor up again. I'm guessing sitting for work 8 hours a day doesn't help either. So, even though the stretching helps reduce the symptom of pelvic floor tightness -- the tightness always comes back. On one level (fun exercise) that leads to muscle tightness is not going to stop. So, that means I will always need to do some maintenance stretching. But - the posture/sitting is something I plan to work on.

This last week I started using a lacrosse ball and a ~6" diameter foam roller to stretch my pelvic floor --- and it worked super well! I watched a video on youtube of a doctor showing how to manually loosen pelvic floor muscles through massage. He has a model of the pelvic area with the bones, muscles, tendons, etc. He shows which areas to apply pressure with a finger or knuckle. I did that massage on myself. It really works - but it's very tiring on the fingers and hands and it's challenging to perform on yourself. So, I put a lacrosse ball, which is very hard, on a chair and sat my weight on the ball so it would push on some specific areas shown in the video. Wow - it really worked. I then took a 6" foam roller, sat on it with it pointing out through my legs, and rocked side to side and front to back. Those two exercises made me feel more stretch in my pelvic floor than the 3 months of normal stretches (happy baby, hindi squats and variations, etc).

I will definitely keep up with the normal stretches because I think they help with all the surrounding muscles and to some extent the pelvic floor in a more mellow way. But to target the pelvic floor, the lacrosse ball and the foam roller are the way to go for me.

[iwillbeatit]

Can you please post the link to the video? i am intreseted thank you

[WillGetBetter]

[iwillbeatit]

thanks

[WillGetBetter]

I'm not sure I got a lot of specific information from the video. But, I did leave with the idea that I could press around with my hand or a hard ball to target some of the muscles and other tissues. I also started feeling around down there, trying to think about the mechanism of a reverse kegel. You can feel where the bone is and where the opening is that the pressure generated by the diaphragm must push through.

[iwillbeatit]

Excatly thats what i like to learn from the video!

i know u wrote it several times but i "over"read it everytime, yesterday i give the "hip rotation" a try, it was amazing!! i edged around 25min without break (very slow) without noticeing it. It was a whole different feeling like i could better rk and i have more control. i will try this today again.
But it was tiring to hold that flat back after the session i was exhausted so since then i try to sit in the car and in the office with this posture to get a little bit used to it..
i think i have to acces my ATP a little bit more to fix this issue...

[Bobsadcock]

Hi willgetbetter,

Have a question about your rk routine. While doing hindi squat, do you hold a long rk at moderate strength, or as hard as you can in shorter holds?

Thanks.

[WillGetBetter]

Hi willgetbetter,

Have a question about your rk routine. While doing hindi squat, do you hold a long rk at moderate strength, or as hard as you can in shorter holds?

Thanks.

Hi Bobsadcok - I usually don't mix RKs with stretching. I stretch a couple times a day and sit on some sort of ball when I have a chance (in the car or at my work chair). I do RKs throughout the day - while I'm lying in bed in the morning and evening, when I'm walking around, etc.

I have read that some people do hindi squats and RKs together. I think you should do both long and short RKs. When I have sex, I do both long and short. Sometimes I do a more moderate long one once I get near the arousal level where I want to plateau - it slows down the spike in arousal and lets me settle in. At the beginning of PIV sex or while I'm doing oral and am getting too ramped up in arousal, I do a burst of hard short RKs to make my arousal drop.

For me, I never felt a lot of pelvic floor stretch when doing a tradition hindi squat. I do a version where I lay on my back, put my feet on the wall in squat position, and then rotate my hips forward and back. I also stand up, widen my stance a bit beyond shoulder width, do a squat, and then rock back and forth over my feet from side to side. I seem to feel the stretch more for me.