My take on PE. and how i cured it

**andrewvi7** · 10-08-2018

Hey guys, been a while since i've posted anything but thought it's about time. If you've seen my previous posts, you'll see that i've been struggling with PE for a number of years which has come in waves, some months i could last as long as i wanted, some i couldn't last past 3 pumps. Really heavy shit that forced me to look deep inside, but without getting philosophical, i'll share with you guys what i've tried, what was not successful and what was. I've seen a lot of information over the years and have tried the majority of it so i'll start with that list...

RK's
Hindi squats
Magnesium/ Potassium/ other supplements...
Rubber band around my balls to get them to relax and hang lower
Leg and abdomen stretching including tennis ball massages
Penis stretches
Meditation
Stopped porn
Edging for months even with a flashlight

None of these worked for me in by them selves, partly because i didn't understand their connection fully to the pelvic floor, or god knows for what reason. So I kept trying different things over the years and have finally found something that has helped me massively... How? Well over the last month i've been dealing with a chick from work, and have been having amazing sex every time, I wouldn't say i last as long as i want, but if i keep the rhythm constant and don't try bang her like i hate her... i last around a good 20-30min pumping away ( including little breaks while switching positions) by which time she just can't keep going. This doesn't include fore play of course which also lasts around 30-40min before we even get down to the good stuff.

So what did i do?

First of all the magic cure is RK's and will always be RK's (yes the first bullet point of what i tried and was unsuccessful is RK), let me explain. I think the first time i tried Rk'ing, i couldn't do it for longer than a minute... That was the problem and why i never had any results even after weeks maybe months of trying... The problem, i believe, was anterior pelvic tilt. As part of my routine, i started training my glutes, abs, and hamstrings religiously every week, sometimes twice... Trained them hard and stretched them even harder. This won't cure PE in by itself, but is a necessity in curing PE long term. So do your research on the forum on Anterior Pelvic Tilt, get yourself to the gym and hit those muscles and stretches hard, that's the first step. Fixing your APT will make RK's easier to perform, that's what i've found out through personal experience. Then comes the second and most important step when it comes to RK's and fixing PE... When performing RK's i see a lot of people describe it as trying to force piss out, also without using abs??? I completely disagree with this, abdominal pressure is a necessary when trying RK's. Creating pressure through the abdominal means the pressure will try and leave your abdomen through another path, your pelvic floor. The trick however is to only attempt a VERY light RK, and not try to force it as i first tried. If you apply too much pressure, one of two things will happen... 1. Get tired too quickly and wont be able to maintain it long enough, 2. Create so much tension in the abdomen that you'll inadvertently also create tension in the pelvic floor which will be counter productive. So only apply a very very tiny amount of pressure in the abdomen that you can maintain for hours, your pelvic floor might take time to release as mine did. During the first week i started doing this, it took around 5min before i felt my pelvic floor starting to release, while these days 30 seconds is enough. Another critical point in making this work is that you need to do this outside of the bedroom... My pelvic floor got tight, when sitting at work, playing games with mates, or working out at the gym... So it is ABSOLUTELY necessary to start recognising when your pelvic floor isn't relax and simply perform RK's until it releases itself, and then simply go about your day with the RK. This will have tremendous effect on your bedroom stamina.

Also, I've seen a lot of people pointing their PE problems to sensitive points on the head of their cocks, blaming their anxiety, porn or other things for their PE. If you ask me, that's all bullshit. Why? Your dick is meant to be sensitive, that's the whole point of a sexual organ, your dick, and the woman vagina, has an insane amount of receptors for a reason and blaming that it's too sensitive is missing the point. Same with edging, which in my experience is completely useless as it does absolutely nothing to release your pelvic floor. That's why i've spent months edging thinking that my bedroom stamina will increase, and wohoooo it went from 3 seconds to 3.5 in the bedroom, well fucking done lol. While anxiety does have an effect on stamina, it is severely over rated. Since curing my PE, i've gone on a night out sober, pulled the hottest chick in the bar, and when pulled back to mine i was very nervous just because of how hot she was, guess what, simply performed a mini rk for 30 seconds, felt my pelvic floor release, and banged her till her legs starting shaking like a god dam earth quake. In my personal opinion, the pelvic floor is the sole purpose of PE in men that aren't virgins and have sufficient sexual experience. So unless you feel your heart falling through your ass when you're with a woman, don't blame anxiety for your PE, concentrate on releasing your pelvic floor outside the bedroom.

As mentioned, this is all my personal experience and some points may not be valid for you as they were for me. This is only my take on PE after years of experimenting, so take it or leave it sorta thing. Hope it helps. Also i'll try stick around for a while to answer any questions that i might of missed while rushing to type this up.

**nevergivein** · 10-08-2018

Are you able to RK in any position? Standing, sitting, laying etc

Reason I ask is because I can only ever feel my Pelvic Floor "drop" and relax when standing but not when sitting and laying down.

Also, not only can I not feel it in these positions but the use of ab tensing really kicks in. I'm trying to RK when driving on long journeys but can't

**Pegasus** · 10-08-2018

Thank you for your contribution.

It is noteworthy that you didn't give up . Pelvic tilt is common in stubbourn cases .
I see you actually did not have successs with rk but went back to them after dealing with apt.

**sameel** · 10-08-2018

Congratulations and thanks for sharing your amazing success story.

I watched a well known indian yogi's video in which one breathing technique was to take a deep breath and then push the pelvic floor with ABS like a hammer. The yogi was doing it like a machine.

I tried that and started hitting the pelvic floor using my ABS like a hammer. I did 500 of these daily for a couple of weeks or so.
Then I tried sex, and to my surprise I was able suppress the ejaculation reflex by pushing my ABS hard onto pelvic floor. For a minute or so, I had to repeat it after each thrust. Then kept on repeating after every few thrusts. This is how I lasted around 20 minutes for the first time in my life. The only limitation is you get tired pushing your ABS hard. So gym is the way to go!

**andrewvi7** · 10-08-2018

Originally Posted by nevergivein

Are you able to RK in any position? Standing, sitting, laying etc

Reason I ask is because I can only ever feel my Pelvic Floor "drop" and relax when standing but not when sitting and laying down.

Also, not only can I not feel it in these positions but the use of ab tensing really kicks in. I'm trying to RK when driving on long journeys but can't

That's something i completely forgot to add. Yes i have the same issue, i find it easiest to drop my PF while walking, then standing, while the hardest is while sitting. Although with practise and persistent light RK's when walking or standing, it will transfer over while sitting as well, it helps if you do like 10min of light rk work before you sit down, get it relaxed and in that stretched state while standing/walking, then simply maintain it while sitting. Just keep practising it and it will get easier. It's the initial release that's by far the hardest to get, once you get there, everything else is transferable. Even during sex these days, i feel i get super tight while only doing foreplay and i know for a fact if i didn't release my PF i'd bust a nut in seconds... but since i've started practising this, my PF is far more stretchable. Only takes a 5-10 second light rk stretch before sex to feel the release... from there i can dive in with confidence.

Thank you for your contribution.

It is noteworthy that you didn't give up . Pelvic tilt is common in stubbourn cases .
I see you actually did not have successs with rk but went back to them after dealing with apt.

It was really surprising that I initially found it impossible to feel the mentioned "release" even when trying hard RK's. But dealing with APT really made it possible for RK's to be performed, even very light ones. These issues are deeply connected in my opinion, first the APT, then RK.

On a bit of a side note, for those who hit gym seriously, it is a similar feeling to when properly squatting heavy loads and properly using a full belly of air as a brace against a weight lifting belt, the RK feels crazy, sometimes a bit too crazy like something might pop hahaha. Found a good video on youtube to describe it a little better...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFiosv9_vis

Congratulations and thanks for sharing your amazing success story.

I watched a well known indian yogi's video in which one breathing technique was to take a deep breath and then push the pelvic floor with ABS like a hammer. The yogi was doing it like a machine.

I tried that and started hitting the pelvic floor using my ABS like a hammer. I did 500 of these daily for a couple of weeks or so.
Then I tried sex, and to my surprise I was able suppress the ejaculation reflex by pushing my ABS hard onto pelvic floor. For a minute or so, I had to repeat it after each thrust. Then kept on repeating after every few thrusts. This is how I lasted around 20 minutes for the first time in my life. The only limitation is you get tired pushing your ABS hard. So gym is the way to go!

I've done something quite similar, although i'd simply describe it as an RK in a laying down hindi squat position... if that makes sense? For example i've got upper back problems after about 10-15min in a hindi squat position, or my legs just go dead and i can't continue... so what i tried and found really relaxing was laying down on the floor with my butt right in front of the wall and simply raise my legs in a squat position on the wall and simply use my hands as knee support, and just breathe deeply with my belly. MY upper back loved this, and my legs didnt go dead despite being up on the wall. It really helped relax the PF, but unfortunately it would simply tense right back up in the next 30min once im off the wall. My pelvic floor seemes stubbornly persistent at remaining tight without regular light RK's

**Pegasus** · 10-08-2018

The persistance of pelvic floor tension despite significant rk training points to an underlying issue.

You have already pointed out your underlying issue is pelvic tilt and that you are working on it.

**Chief3nick** · 10-08-2018

Do you have any references on APT that you used? Causes, symptoms, or ways t fix?

Also when you were in the early stages of holding rks did you feel a slight soreness or ache in the taint PF area? I have that feeling on prolonged holds and hoping it means that I’m doing it right.

**Shikamaru** · 10-09-2018

Great post and I appreciate everything you wrote ! Makes me really want to fight my APT problem. I’ve been kind of lazy on it since I figured out I have a bad cause of APT . Hips are really tight , lower back is weak, sometimes I feel like a 70 year old man. Causes my pelvic floor to tense like crazy . Can’t figure out if I’m doing a front RK or not but now I will do my APT routine twice every day . there are two videos on YouTube for APT which ones do you recommend doing ? One takes about 40 mins for me while the other is about 15 minutes . How long every day did you dedicate to pre-e as in Hindi squats., stretches , tennis ball
Massage and edging ? After doing APT workouts my pelvic floor feels relaxed and it tells you to walk with a different posture which is flexing your lower abs like you said which is basically doing a RK all day and squeezing your glutes . I think if I can fix my APT problem , I’ll be able to last a lot longer in bed .

**andrewvi7** · 10-09-2018

Originally Posted by Chief3nick

Do you have any references on APT that you used? Causes, symptoms, or ways t fix?

Also when you were in the early stages of holding rks did you feel a slight soreness or ache in the taint PF area? I have that feeling on prolonged holds and hoping it means that I’m doing it right.

Causes.... Sitting for extended periods of time. I used to spend most of my childhood in front of the TV, PS1 and later became a hardcore PC gamer, so spent dozens of hours a day in adrenaline filled seated position. Now i realise that that adrenaline part was a big factor to my PE as every time i do a boys night with beers and a few matches on Tekken, i feel my pelvic floor tightening like crazy after 10minutes, and i've sometimes used to spend 20h+ straight of gaming in my childhood. Imagine what effect that had on my pelvic floor.... Not a good one.

In terms of the soreness, absolutely. I still feel it now. I mean as im typing this up, i've just got back from the gym after back day, and the entire way to the bus, on the bus, and back to the house (around 40min) i held an RK. Right now it feels like my lower lower back, somewhere around my coccyx area, is super sore solely from RKing from a prolonged period of time. This is how i know that it's goddam effective at releasing my PF from experience. Now im not sure of your circumstance, but the best way to test it is to go get laid. Forget edging if you're doing it. Funny thing is that i last longer in bed than i do with edging after curing my PE which is nuts haha.

Originally Posted by Shikamaru

Great post and I appreciate everything you wrote ! Makes me really want to fight my APT problem. I’ve been kind of lazy on it since I figured out I have a bad cause of APT . Hips are really tight , lower back is weak, sometimes I feel like a 70 year old man. Causes my pelvic floor to tense like crazy . Can’t figure out if I’m doing a front RK or not but now I will do my APT routine twice every day . there are two videos on YouTube for APT which ones do you recommend doing ? One takes about 40 mins for me while the other is about 15 minutes . How long every day did you dedicate to pre-e as in Hindi squats., stretches , tennis ball
Massage and edging ? After doing APT workouts my pelvic floor feels relaxed and it tells you to walk with a different posture which is flexing your lower abs like you said which is basically doing a RK all day and squeezing your glutes . I think if I can fix my APT problem , I’ll be able to last a lot longer in bed .

To be honest mate, i can't say which routine to follow as it purely depends on your circumstance, do you have time, do you train at the gym, are you looking to gain size or just fix PE.... Personally i only concentrated on my APT and PE once/twice a week, all in the gym, some with light weights, some heavy to the point of being an inch from shitting myself. Whatever routine you follow it won't make a difference, whether you spend an hour a week smashing it hard, or 15min a day light workout, they will both do the job at fixing both APT & PE, just depends on your preference of approach. More than one way to skin a cat as they say. But for reference this is what i did at the gym...

Warm up with just standing leg rotations, warm your hips up.

1. Empty bar squats x2 sets, 60kg squat set, 80kg squat set, 100kg squat set, 120kg squat set, 3-6 sets of 140kg squat sets, maybe do a max weight set. Depends on how i'm feeling that day, all low bar back squats, below parallel with weight lifting belt.

2. Straight into glute bridges (Personally found that this exercise helped the most with APT, by a good mile), on this one i never go heavy, 80kg is enough for me, simply raise the bar, and hold it at the very very VERY top for a good 2 seconds and feel that glute squeeze. Youtube the technique.

3. I've got this strap that goes around my ankle with a metal clip, so what i usually do it attach it to the cables, lie down on the floor, and curl my leg back (hamstring isolation), just work them hamstrings until they're completely fucked.

.... The rest of the routine is has no effect on APT/PE so i won't bother describing it. Also train your abs abs abs, concentrate with leg raises, hanging leg raises and anything that hits lower abs, google it, youtube it, millions of good routines online.

The last part of the leg day is stretching, but again, youtube APT stretches, most videos will give you same/similar techniques. Follow them.

So in summery....The following pretty much fixed my APT & PE, this leg day routine, APT stretching & constant RK's. Didn't bother with edging, massages or anything else as i previously tried them and has absolutely fuck all success.

**Pegasus** · 10-09-2018

Note of caution as the last post may cause some confusion .

Do not do rk while doing heavy weights . So for instance doing a rk while doing a 120kg squat is ill advised and risks injury.