Difficult rk from pf tightness

**WillGetBetter** · 11-07-2018

Originally Posted by TheR

Not sure if I'm missing something but surely a tight PF cannot fully remove the ability to do an RK when it is the same muscle group for urinating?

I found it was easier to RK and identify the muscle involved initially if I needed to urinate. If I needed to urinate I would do a gentle RK asif I was about to urinate and I'd get to sensation that I could start the flow (but didn't) and this helped identify the muscle and due to needing to urinate increased the feeling in the PF to confirm what was happening.

Does that make sense?

That exact idea has been in my mind recently, and I don’t have an adequate answer to it. It might mean that urinating just need a little expansion of the pelvic floor, but regulating the arousal (or stiffness of an erection) needs more. Or, it means that there is something else that we don’t understand about how this is all connected.

I know that when I reverse kegel, my EQ goes down. I know that to urinate, I need to reduce my EQ to a certain level to be able to urinate and that RKs can help get me there.

I’m not sure how that is all related exactly.

**Lucian** · 11-07-2018

Thanks to WGB, I believe ATP is an issue for me. I've noticed to RK, I must thrust my hips forward a little, almost like a penetrating motion. Hold them forward, then I can RK much easier. My method is to actually do this thrust or rocking in rhythm to RK.

Come to find out, it's because every time I thrust, im properly aligning my hips and pf! My oh my. Time to begin looking into ATP focused exercises and get be more religious about my butterfly / hindi.

**WillGetBetter** · 11-07-2018

Originally Posted by Lucian

Thanks to WGB, I believe ATP is an issue for me. I've noticed to RK, I must thrust my hips forward a little, almost like a penetrating motion. Hold them forward, then I can RK much easier. My method is to actually do this thrust or rocking in rhythm to RK.

Come to find out, it's because every time I thrust, im properly aligning my hips and pf! My oh my. Time to begin looking into ATP focused exercises and get be more religious about my butterfly / hindi.

That’s the exact same thing that happened to me. I feel that just how you described.

**Pegasus** · 11-07-2018

Originally Posted by TheR

Not sure if I'm missing something but surely a tight PF cannot fully remove the ability to do an RK when it is the same muscle group for urinating?

I found it was easier to RK and identify the muscle involved initially if I needed to urinate. If I needed to urinate I would do a gentle RK asif I was about to urinate and I'd get to sensation that I could start the flow (but didn't) and this helped identify the muscle and due to needing to urinate increased the feeling in the PF to confirm what was happening.

Does that make sense?

So i could never understand how a lot of guys found rk difficult after all you do one each time oou piss.

Well i think we are on the trail of the answer .. Pre e often co exists with toilet issues by the way.

**TheR** · 11-08-2018

Originally Posted by Pegasus

So i could never understand how a lot of guys found rk difficult after all you do one each time oou piss.

Well i think we are on the trail of the answer .. Pre e often co exists with toilet issues by the way.

Yeah its confused me too. My advice to anyone out there struggling to RK would be. Urinate like normal and pay attention to what your doing. Then next time you need to piss gently try and start the flow without doing so and because you will need to pee this will really give you the 'feeling' of the RK. From there you can move to trying to do it when you don't need to pee.

This has given me more questions about me though. I've never ever had any difficulty when taking a piss. I can start the flow easily, I can increase the flow easily (to pretty rapid too!) so maybe the front of my PF isn't that tight? I do always have to kegal several times though to get the last few bits out. I have always had some issue in going to the toilet though and struggling when taking a shit. Maybe its the rear of my PF thats tight? But not sure if that would affect my PreE?

**Pegasus** · 11-08-2018

My view is that tightness anywhere in the pf is not good for stamina .

Well it does seem the front of your pelvic floor is not that tight R .
Like me you must keep an open mind to the experience of others and try to move forward to more complete understanding . Already this has increased your understanding of your own situation a win win.

**iwillbeatit** · 11-12-2018

Nice Thread!

**Pegasus** · 12-15-2018

I continue to watch this .
It occurs to me many who have difficulty with rk should start with stretches like Hindi etc . Now in some cases this has quick effect and sometimes it will take some time to relax the area enough for rk to become easier.

**jangga** · 12-16-2018

Originally Posted by Mohamad_Farrage

I believe that the best way to relax your PC muscle during intercourse is to practice what ...

I'll try this. Thanks

**Sancezz** · 11-21-2019

I can not find the reverse kegel and how to do it. This is somehow very strange for me - because I remember that some time ago I could easily increase the flow of urine and never gave it any thought. And now I am actually shocked that I can not. I do not know or understand what has happened or changed.