I think it's time for a poll

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

There is something that really bothers me about premature ejaculation and it is: why us? What is different in us that makes us premature ejaculators? The masturbation hypothesis to me is ridiculous. The idea that premature ejaculation is because when we began masturbating we try to cum fast is absurd. There is no way that 3/4 of men had plenty of time for masturbation and masturbated "properly" during their youth. Whatever it is, is something that is not obvious. Something that no one would connect with premature ejaculation. What if viokiwi found it? In his thread:
https://www.pegym.com/forums/premature-ejaculation-forum/117667-how-fixing-my-anterior-pelvic-tilt-fixed-my-pe.html
he made the connection of premature ejaculation and APT. That was the first time I saw that connection a few month ago. That is something that I wouldn't connect to premature ejaculation in a hundred years. In fact I didn't even knew that the condition existed. I didn't paid much attention to it until today. I was wondering again what is different in us and I remembered that WillGetBetter asked me if I have APT. Well, I definitely have it. I saw other members like andrewvi7 mentioning it, so I think that maybe we should take a look at the mirror and check if we have it. So, the question is:
DO YOU HAVE ANTERIOR PELVIC TILT? Answer yes or no to see if there is a correlation between APT and premature ejaculation.
In my case the answer is YES.

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...xed-my-pe.html

The link again to see if it works.

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

Hmm? Can’t say for sure if I have ATP but I have had both knees replaced. Also I have , what my wife calls, Turkey Neck. I jut my head forward, probably to keep my balance. Recently after a full body PET scan I have a mild case of scoliosis in my lower back. Explains my lower back pain that I’ve had for many years. Does ATP, if it applies in my case of Pre E? I’m skeptical.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

I have always thought there are several factors at play with pre e . Among them pelvic floor issues . Among guys with pelvic floor issues apt is often a causal factor . I have seen this onsite for several years . If you have pre e where the pelvic floor is involved apt is something you should check for especially where the pf issues don't quickly resolve with stretches etc.

[Merlaux Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Merlaux]

When I first read about APT here, about a month ago, I actually thought it was not my case. Went to a PT to have a real opinion and turns out I do have APT.

Hard to say how much this condition comes into play regarding PreE. It does seem to be a thing we have in common on this forum.
Either way, if we commit to a routine to fix PreE, may as well add an extra 5 to 10mn to do exercises focusing on fighting APT.

[Cachitotto Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cachitotto]

Are there guys here without APT that have severe PreE??

[Party Senior Member Member of the Month August 2016 Find all posts View Profile Close Party]

Are there guys here without APT that have severe PreE??

Of course. I’d say most guys here with Pre E issues don’t have ATP. Why do you ask?

[closed224 Senior Member Member of the Month Dec 2014, Feb 2017 Find all posts View Profile Close closed224]

APT seems very cassal. General tightness also. Learning to relax is huge. Bio mechanical function is an overall theme. Being balanced physically helps us be balanced emotionally also.

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

Of course. I’d say most guys here with Pre E issues don’t have ATP. Why do you ask?

I think he is asking because that is what we are trying to determine, if there is a correlation between APT and premature ejaculation. How do you know that most guys here don't have APT? If there are members reading this that have premature ejaculation but don't have APT, please answer too. Just saying "no" is enough. I just want to know how strong is the correlation if any.

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

Hey Party, I was thinking that maybe you are right. Maybe APT has nothing to do with premature ejaculation but the exercises used to correct APT help to fix whatever is wrong with us. I am going to work to fix my APT. In the worst case it won't help in my premature ejaculation but at least I will have a better posture.

[Big Al AdministratorPEGym EditorMale Enhancement Coach Rep.PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close Big Al]

Why is the negative conditioning via masturbation hypothesis "ridiculous"? How may men truly masturbate in a constructive fashion- as oppose to the often furtive manner it's usually performed? The issue is compounded when porn is involved.

That being said, there may be other causes associated with premature ejaculation, but it's telling how CONSTRUCTIVE activities similar to masturbation (e.g.- edging) can very often correct the issue.

[Boricua Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Boricua]

I respect your opinion Big Al but, if we are going to believe the statistics, the porn use % in men is 70% or more and premature ejaculation % is between 20% and 30%. Those numbers don't match with the theory.

[WillGetBetter Senior Member Member of the Month Nov 2018 Find all posts View Profile Close WillGetBetter]

I respect your opinion Big Al but, if we are going to believe the statistics, the porn use % in men is 70% or more and premature ejaculation % is between 20% and 30%. Those numbers don't match with the theory.

I’m not sure that’s how it works. There are a number of factors that cause PreE (physical, mental, and I believe that habits should be included in this list). Not every person who has APT has PreE, not everyone who has a tight pelvic floor has PreE, not everyone who holds their breath, or has anxiety, or watches porn, or has a hormone imbalance, etc. But, I think that each of those things can contribute.

Obesity rates are higher than the rates of death by heart disease. Even if there isn’t a 100% correlation with one factor, that factor can still be a predictor.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

Yes there is a connection with apt and premature ejaculation. Many good physiotherapists will tell you this. When you have PFD it means you have been asking your PF to do too much work.
This can be
-people who masturbate a lot tensing the PF to the point it doesn't return to its resting point.

-Bad posture , specifically guys who don't sit on their sits bones at the bottom of the pelvis but instead sit slightly forward of these. This will cause weakness of the glutes (bad news) which means this extra work will go to the PF and the hamstrings. This will cause you to walk with a sticking out head/neck and also very easy to pull a groin or hamstring muscle. All this can give the classic apt appearance.

- Guys who always suck in their stomachs. (Notice i say suck and not contract) these continually pulled up muscles will lift the PF muscles causing PE and many other symptoms.

[Paul789 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Paul789]

Also, to pick up on a point mentioned on this thread, if your glutes aren't activating properly which of course is a part of apt, then this burden will carry to other muscle groups. PF and so PFD, back pain, knee problems, feet that aren't straight and so ankle problems, neck problems as it will start to stick out. Strong glutes are so important. Next time you sit you should feel if you are sat directly on your sits bones. The Alexander technique can also help. Remember good posture comes from your skeleton.
I should have mentioned earlier that stress/anxiety can cause PFD, as many people hold that stress in their core.