Spasms in the pelvic floor

**Myt** · 01-07-2019

Hello,

I have Porn Induced ED and also premature ejaculation from 10 years terrible masturbation habits and no real sex. Can get it up ok sometimes, but can never maintain, and never really have rock solid erections or morning wood whatsoever. Once I do obtain an erection, I ejaculate in under 30 seconds every time with a weak erection.

I am under the impression that I have a very tense pelvic floor from my symptoms. I am attempting a 100% RK routine with hindi squats coupled in. Once my pelvic floor is relaxed, I was going to begin an edging routine to combat the Pre-E. I have tried to incorporate edging already but it is difficult to maintain a decent erection for more than a few minutes. I notice, that whether I RK or K, my pelvic floor begins to spasm a bit, sort of a bubbling feeling or a feeling similar to gas/fluids passing through or stomach grumbling (in the PF) for about .5-1 seconds. This continues frequently throughout the day. I was wondering if this could also be a symptom of a tight/weak pelvic floor or something else completely?

Thanks,

Myt

**Pegasus** · 01-08-2019

Ok so when you do the stretches off the thread in stickies how do you feel what sort of reaction do you get?

**Myt** · 01-08-2019

Hello Pegasus,

When I do the stretches, I don't get any spasm sensation. I feel as if my hips are a bit tight (hindi) and hamstrings (when trying happy baby). I also feel as if I get more a stretch when RKing in Hindi Squat. Was there any more info you were seeking?

Did you think it was just extra tension/tightness causing this and I should just keep stretching until it hopefully dissipates?

**Pegasus** · 01-09-2019

Ok so lets see I would say quit porn do a rk routine and do the stretches . Have you done edging?

**Myt** · 01-09-2019

I've quit porn for about 2 years now, with some minor relapses. I'm working on a 100% RK routine at the moment with hindi squats as well. Edging is tough unless I am seated, but I am trying plateau edging when possible.

One main thing that is puzzling for me, is that I have immense trouble maintaining erections standing and when on my knees (missionary). But it is a bit better seated, I'd say I can achieve about 80-90% erection seated.

I'm not sure if my pelvic floor is simply too tight, and I'm still recovering from PIED. Or, if my pelvic floor is weak/tight from rushing masturbation seated for 10+ years and the extra pressure on my pelvic floor standing is killing my erections. So I was unsure if I should stick to 100% RK routine + stretches, or incorporate kegels into the mix. I am just afraid kegels will make my premature ejaculation worse.

**IdealPenis** · 01-11-2019

2 years is quite a lot of time for the body to re-adjust.

I assume there are other issues in the middle.
It could be worthed a visit to the doctor and might even be better to see a psychotherapist.

How old are you?

**WillGetBetter** · 01-11-2019

That's challenging when you have two issues to fix at the same time. When I started to fix my PreE, I also thought that kegels were diametrically opposite to reverse kegels and stretching. But, I'm not sure that's exactly right. Pegasus explained to me that I want to be "flexible and strong" like an athlete. So, the stretching and reverse kegels improve flexibility and the kegels improve strength. Since I only had PreE, I could focus on stretching and reverse kegels in the beginning. Over time, I realized that I needed to add some kegels because my pelvic floor was on the weak side. Now, I try to strike a balance and switch around my ratio of kegels to reverse kegels every week, depending on how I feel.

Maybe you could try a routine like:
1. No porn
2. 25% kegels, 75% reverse kegels
3. stretching: tennis ball massage, various hindi squats, cobra, happy baby pose, child's pose, pigeon, etc
4. Edging: 20 minutes a day with lube and a fleshlight (or hand), working on belly breathing, keep mind relaxed, change the stroke speed as needed to reach an arousal plateau, use reverse kegels to moderate arousal level. Only ejaculate every 3 sessions or so.
5. Ballooning: If glans/frenulum sensitivity is an issue, work in 5 minutes of ballooning into your edging sessions. I use ballooning to start things up and to get enough of an erection to begin edging.

It takes a really long time to get good at something and for you brain/body to change. If something doesn't work in the first month, I wouldn't abandon it necessarily. Maybe you could modify it, or try to think deeply about what your technique is, what your body is doing, etc. Keeping a journal helped me see patterns that I would have missed without it. Good luck - have fun!

**NOWHARD** · 01-12-2019

Hi Myt It would be best you take a nice 8 week break and why your doing that get on NOWHARDS MIX is in the exercise and health forum and do the 12 week trail, and at the end of the 8 week break with no touching of your penis, so no masturbating, no porn, and no sexual touching with women as well.

A good way to tell if things are getting better is when you feel nocturnal erections and if morning erections are getting better and stronger, and when a morning wood wakes you leave it alone, if you want to get better.

What your doing is called rebooting and it works if you let it.

NOWHARD

**Pegasus** · 01-12-2019

Originally Posted by WillGetBetter

That's challenging when you have two issues to fix at the same time. When I started to fix my PreE, I also thought that kegels were diametrically opposite to reverse kegels and stretching. But, I'm not sure that's exactly right. Pegasus explained to me that I want to be "flexible and strong" like an athlete. So, the stretching and reverse kegels improve flexibility and the kegels improve strength. Since I only had PreE, I could focus on stretching and reverse kegels in the beginning. Over time, I realized that I needed to add some kegels because my pelvic floor was on the weak side. Now, I try to strike a balance and switch around my ratio of kegels to reverse kegels every week, depending on how I feel.

Maybe you could try a routine like:
1. No porn
2. 25% kegels, 75% reverse kegels
3. stretching: tennis ball massage, various hindi squats, cobra, happy baby pose, child's pose, pigeon, etc
4. Edging: 20 minutes a day with lube and a fleshlight (or hand), working on belly breathing, keep mind relaxed, change the stroke speed as needed to reach an arousal plateau, use reverse kegels to moderate arousal level. Only ejaculate every 3 sessions or so.
5. Ballooning: If glans/frenulum sensitivity is an issue, work in 5 minutes of ballooning into your edging sessions. I use ballooning to start things up and to get enough of an erection to begin edging.

It takes a really long time to get good at something and for you brain/body to change. If something doesn't work in the first month, I wouldn't abandon it necessarily. Maybe you could modify it, or try to think deeply about what your technique is, what your body is doing, etc. Keeping a journal helped me see patterns that I would have missed without it. Good luck - have fun!

I like this post .
Just aa note here the physio generally where the pf is both weak and tight work on the tightness first.

**Myt** · 01-12-2019

@IdealPenis - I am 24. You think my issues are mental? I think some anxiety is there, but I've gotten past that because I realize it doesn't matter too much. However, I DO expect to have trouble getting hard and issues finishing within the first 30 seconds each time :/

@WillGetBetter - Porn is cut for good, The weighted routine is something I think I will try in the near future when I feel the tension in my pelvic floor is gone. The other three training options all sound good as well. I will have to keep on with a similar routine and see how I progress. I feel as if right now, if I push a kegel intentionally, my penis feels sensitive again for a short while after, as if it is tense. You think it is wise to keep on with 100% RK for a few more weeks and then decide whether kegels feel right to incorporate?

How has your per basis routine been working out for yourself?

@NOWHARD - I have rebooted before, i have taken a 4 month break from PMO completely, no MO or touching at all. But I have had minor relapses since. My morning wood/spontaneous erections never fully returned. I have had morning wood, but only really when I have to pee in the morning, and even at that it doesn't seem too rigid. Is this normal? It's not very consistent. I will check out your routine for sure.

Thanks everyone