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  1. 11-15-2019 #51
    AManWithAPlan2
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACPreE View Post
    Goodluck.

    Really work on the fixing of APT. That will help so much. I have a workout i'm doing for core/ab and its helped tremendously. Really puts into perspective the importance of fixing the muscle imbalances.

    I worked Edging Stretching and RKs for months and it wasn't until i added the workout into the mix that everything fell into place.
    Thanks man. Is it the Insanity Abs Workout? I saw you post about that and I broke out my old Insanity dvds and did that one yesterday. Brutal, lol.
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  2. 11-16-2019 #52
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    I am doing the same ab workout that ACPreE discovered. It helped with doing a RK I believe. You seem very organized and probably goal oriented personality. There needs to be no goals during sex. Goals make the brain too active during sex and induce thinking. Thinking is bad. Be present in your body only. It’s a skill I had to learn. I can now sit there be present in my body for 10 minutes where I notice all the physical sensations going on due to the environment and whenever something tenses I relax it immediately. When I started it was like 10 seconds haha. Good luck!
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  3. 11-16-2019 #53
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    if your PF is tense you are living every minute of your life closer to orgasm then someone that has a relaxed PF. Think about that for a minute.
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  4. 11-18-2019 #54
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    Thanks for the advice bball33!
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  5. 11-18-2019 #55
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    End of Week 2 Update:

    Last week was pretty good as far as sticking to the stretching and exercise, but I'm pretty disappointed with edging. It's a struggle and I never feel like my pelvic floor really relaxes during edging. Gotta just keep stretching, doing APT work, and tennis ball massage. I am still feeling positive about the possibility of fixing this eventually.

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  6. 11-19-2019 #56
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    Hi AManWithAPlan2
    First of all well done on re-starting your 90 day routine must of been difficult to get back into it after the last few bad months. Don't give up, what's worked for others will work for you !
    I am busy sorting out my plan based on the PreE90 Routine in the sticky (Thanks WillGetBetter), and i wanted to know is it better to the APT Work Out before the yoga stretching or after ? I know it might be a stupid question but, as i was reading the routine and planing mine out, i had put the APT Workout after the stretching, and in your routine i see it before.
    Thanks.
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  7. 11-19-2019 #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by forthebest View Post
    Hi AManWithAPlan2
    First of all well done on re-starting your 90 day routine must of been difficult to get back into it after the last few bad months. Don't give up, what's worked for others will work for you !
    I am busy sorting out my plan based on the PreE90 Routine in the sticky (Thanks WillGetBetter), and i wanted to know is it better to the APT Work Out before the yoga stretching or after ? I know it might be a stupid question but, as i was reading the routine and planing mine out, i had put the APT Workout after the stretching, and in your routine i see it before.
    Thanks.
    Thanks man, it's been humbling to come back and read through my old stuff, but I just had to be transparent about falling off the horse. But I'm back now, that's what counts.

    In the beginning, I had the APT work before because I was doing glute bridges and glute planks which was essentially a mini workout, so I wanted to do the stretching and relaxing part afterward. Right now it's all varied as to what order I complete everything. Like for example, last night while I was watching tv, I did a quad/hip flexor stretch and then did an intense version of butterfly stretch and that was all after my normal morning APT and PF stretches. What I know now from this week actually is that I haven't been pushing hard enough on any of my APT stretches or Pelvic Floor stretches. I stretched pretty intensely yesterday and I'm pretty sure my Pelvic Floor started to relax in a new way which was promising. Definitely go at your own pace with stretching, but make sure you're going a little further each time.

    Also, I think what's important is to remember what the goal is. The goal is a relaxed pelvic floor. I'm 100% sure that APT work and Pelvic Floor stretching BOTH take us to a relaxed pelvic floor. So I actually don't think you could do them in a wrong order. It's just all about getting to that relaxed pelvic floor and both the APT work and PF stretching take us there.
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  8. 11-19-2019 #58
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    No problem ;-)

    Ok thanks for your imput. In any case good luck ! I think the key is baby steps ! you can't think about the weeks and weeks of training to get to your goal ! take it one week at a time and once you get your momentum going you won't even think about all the time it will take to get to your goal you will just do it !

    I going to take your exemple and make a timetable on googles like you, so thanks for the idea !
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  9. 11-19-2019 #59
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    Best wishes to you as well!
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  10. 11-25-2019 #60
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    End of Week 3 Update:

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    Overall, the week was a success. Stuck to the plan and got the majority of my goals done. Edging was better because I refocused my goal in edging to low and slow arousal, kind of ramping up to it rather than the quick and intense method that produces a tight PF. Below are my Edging journals:

    Monday 11.18.19
    Again, not a great edging session. I can't seem to overcome that desire to just get right to the PONR. My body is trained to go right to it. I think I really gotta reset my expectations and start again with just chasing no IK's, keep arousal low and work up the EQ slowly. And call it quits at 20 minutes no matter how I feel or how bad I want to go. Gotta retrain my brain that pleasure does not equal ejac.

    Monday 11.18.19 Part 2
    Did a second round today where my only purpose was to keep low arousal and no IKs. Much more successful. Really low EQ, but that was ok.

    Tuesday 11.19.19
    Followed the pattern from yesterday with super slow start up, but I could tell it wasn't quite the same as yesterday. I think the RK was just much stronger yesterday. But I ended up with somewhat similar edging. Played around with pushing an RK to lower EQ and take down arousal. I noticed my heart rate just jumps almost like my brain wants to switch over to the old way of getting aroused, quick and orgasm focused. I think working on deep breaths will be helpful. Also, I'm really just focusing on getting rid of IK's. When I can go a straight 20 minutes with gentle grip and moderate pace with no IKs, then I move to more intense grip and faster pace.

    Wednesday 11.20.19
    Pretty stoked about the new goals and patterns. Again, goal was intermittent slow strokes avoiding IKs. My EQ was way better than Monday when I first switched to this new "crawl before you can walk" edging, so that's good news. Still was able to stay way clear of PONR. I have a long way to go, but it feels like I finally have specific measurable goals here, so at least I can see the path laid out before me.

    Friday 11.22.19
    Keeping low arousal was tough today I think because it'd been awhile since ejac. EQ was amazing though, definitely had a harder time keeping things mellow. There were periods were I felt like I was in control with light grip and moderate speed, but not for very long. I did decide to ejac at the end.

    Sunday 11.24.19
    Had sex today and didn't last more than the first few pumps. Really disappointing. I noticed that my PF did not feel good and loose like it had earlier in the week. After I ejac'd on friday, I was getting all kinds of sensitivity and IKs from Friday to Sunday. So I'm not sure what that's all about. Still gonna keep working on edging with low and slow arousal with the goal of eliminating all IKs this coming week.
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