Extreme case of PE for over 7 years

**caliboy415** · 01-18-2019

TL;DR: Consistency is key. After that identify issues

Create a plan and stick with it. If you need a confidence booster then go with a desensitizing cream/spray or whatever but DO NOT become dependent on it. The only reason I tried it was because my gf suggested it (definitely hurt my ego). My gf doesn't like foreplay and prefers penetrative stimulation to clitoral, tough for a guy that struggles with controlling his ejaculation ha. Anyways I've progressed a lot in my 18ish months on this site but am not to where I want to be. It's a long battle but consistency is key. I just re-read my progress thread and noticed that I would make improvements, see results, get too confident and then regress ha. Listen to input from the more senior members as they've helped A LOT of men overcome their PE. While there isn't one cure-all method there are multiple angles to attack PreE.

Other than kegels and edging, what else have you done? What sort of kegel routine were you following? Any RKs? Do you have IKs as you edge/are stimulated? How long do you edge for? Lube or no lube? Have you tried a STU?.......This is why a progress log is important, it will help others (and yourself) see what has/has not worked for you/

**doesntmatter** · 01-18-2019

Originally Posted by caliboy415

TL;DR: Consistency is key. After that identify issues

Create a plan and stick with it. If you need a confidence booster then go with a desensitizing cream/spray or whatever but DO NOT become dependent on it. The only reason I tried it was because my gf suggested it (definitely hurt my ego). My gf doesn't like foreplay and prefers penetrative stimulation to clitoral, tough for a guy that struggles with controlling his ejaculation ha. Anyways I've progressed a lot in my 18ish months on this site but am not to where I want to be. It's a long battle but consistency is key. I just re-read my progress thread and noticed that I would make improvements, see results, get too confident and then regress ha. Listen to input from the more senior members as they've helped A LOT of men overcome their PE. While there isn't one cure-all method there are multiple angles to attack PreE.

Other than kegels and edging, what else have you done? What sort of kegel routine were you following? Any RKs? Do you have IKs as you edge/are stimulated? How long do you edge for? Lube or no lube? Have you tried a STU?.......This is why a progress log is important, it will help others (and yourself) see what has/has not worked for you/

I've been doing kegels and reverse kegels for seven years, I used to do them 4 days a week, but it has been more like 2 days a week for the past few years since they haven't been working. Never tried the tennis ball thing, as I figured that was more beneficial to people who are just starting out with kegels and are struggling to activate the muscles. Wouldn't hurt to try it I guess.

yes IK's happen sometimes, but even when they don't happen I am lucky to last a minute. When I was 18 I would IK the whole time, but now they don't happen often, only when I make no effort whatsoever to control it.

I just edge as long as I can last for, which is about a 1:1 ratio of stimulation to resting, usually 10 seconds on and then 10 seconds off, and that is if I am going very slow. Like 3-4 seconds on, 10 seconds rest if I try to go somewhat fast.

I bought a STU 6 years ago, used that for a couple years about two thirds of the time I would spank it, but saw no improvement, and then got tired of the hassle of using it.

All I've learned from reading those other users posts was to just worry about reverse kegels (or no kegels at all), and not to worry about regular kegels. I have been doing them evenly for the most part of 7 years.

I don't know what there is to add to a plan that I haven't already been doing. Is it just a journal where you write your progress down? That would only be depressing in my case as there is no progress. If anything it has only gotten worse. I guess the value in it would be when I use this forum you guys can see what I have been claiming to do?

Apparently it is not always curable, so I am starting to move into the direction that I am a part of that minority. What desensitizing cream did you use? I have tried a couple supplements that did not do anything, so I have been leery of spending more money on products for this.

**Paul789** · 01-19-2019

Of course it is curable. You have muscle tension and so you have to find out why you have it and then the best way to release it. You could have it due to
posture
walking gait
not releasing (after masturbation/lifting weights etc)
stomach sucking
tight leg muscles
tight flexors
tilted pelvis
too much sitting

the list goes on.

and then you need to work on the cause and start releasing tension, by

massage
myofascial release
trigger point therapy
pelvic drops
meditation
stretching

etc

**Paul789** · 01-19-2019

also, i forgot but glute medius strength is important. Weakness here can destabilize the pelvis and cause hip pain(so often wrongly disagnosed by doctors as bursitis)
Also, make sure you walk heel to toe.

My point being PFD is a whole body issue.

**caliboy415** · 01-19-2019

I agree with Paul789, it's a matter of identifying what is causing PreE. Even those with sensitive parts have found ways to develop control.

Try the tennis ball massage out. I thought I didn't have a tight pelvic floor until I literally stuck my fingers and felt the area as I was edging. I thought I was RKin but it wasn't enough and I was still getting Iks. I then tried the tennis ball massage and I could handle a lot more intensity as I edged.

Have you tried ballooning? When I first started edging I could not get past how much I had to stop, it felt like 30 sec on 30 sec off for 10 minutes. I was adding time but not making improvements with start/stop. I was getting very frustrated. One day I was just playing around with myself while watching tv and that's kinda what made edging click in my head for me. I was unknowingly ballooning at the time.

As far as starting a journal how you want to run it is up to you. I'd say start with where you're at, what you've tried, etc. (kinda what you've done in this post) and then add what routine you're going to follow. Check the must read stickies as there are lots of routines you can follow there. It'll be up to you what kind you want to run, whether it be 50/50 Kegel/RK, no Kegel, meditative breathing, edging, etc. In addition to a routine I'd try and change other aspects of your life such as diet and exercise (not only to help with PreE but to improve overall quality of life).

Once you've developed a plan and routine then I would ask for input. Don't ask someone to do the work for you and you'll be set up for success.