My PE Log

**ACPreE** · 07-10-2019

Wish I had better news but that plateau is elusive. Can kind of feel like I can get to it but it passes by quickly. Once it passes by, I cant drop my arousal well enough that a few strokes wont bring back the arousal.
Maybe I'm confused though on edging progression.

**ACPreE** · 07-11-2019

Log Entry: 7/10
Recovery has been rough but mine maybe just that bad I guess.
But tonight i really was able to home in a little better on this plateau phase.
I thought holding a 5 or 6 was it and to an extent I still think it is but isn't the right kind of plateau that will help progression.

Tonight I edged fluctuating from 5-7-5 for about 20mins when It finally got out of that and started to go up to ponr. It got up to 9.5 and it was ready to go over but I stopped / went at a crawling speed. It was hovering at 9.5 to 9.8 and would stop for 3 seconds and slowly move a half stroke and it would go from 9-9.8 in the half stroke then stop for 2 to 3 seconds then another stroke slowly till it was manageable. It calmed down to a 9 and was able to get a full 3 second stroke and then it settled in at about 7.5 8ish where I was able to stroke freely feeling amazing for about 2minutes then it climbed back to the 9.5. Did the same slow and control measures and was able to get back in the plateau feeling amazing again.

If I can get into this plateau every edging, maybe I can start and train myself to a. Last longer in the plataue and b. Get into the plataue before I spike to 9.5 not after.

Any input on the 2 different plateaus I'm experiencing? Graphs show only 1 kind but I feel 2 kinds. Maybe it's the same kind just experiencing it at different arousal levels.

**Bobsadcock** · 07-11-2019

Originally Posted by ACPreE

Log Entry: 7/10
Recovery has been rough but mine maybe just that bad I guess.
But tonight i really was able to home in a little better on this plateau phase.
I thought holding a 5 or 6 was it and to an extent I still think it is but isn't the right kind of plateau that will help progression.

Tonight I edged fluctuating from 5-7-5 for about 20mins when It finally got out of that and started to go up to ponr. It got up to 9.5 and it was ready to go over but I stopped / went at a crawling speed. It was hovering at 9.5 to 9.8 and would stop for 3 seconds and slowly move a half stroke and it would go from 9-9.8 in the half stroke then stop for 2 to 3 seconds then another stroke slowly till it was manageable. It calmed down to a 9 and was able to get a full 3 second stroke and then it settled in at about 7.5 8ish where I was able to stroke freely feeling amazing for about 2minutes then it climbed back to the 9.5. Did the same slow and control measures and was able to get back in the plateau feeling amazing again.

If I can get into this plateau every edging, maybe I can start and train myself to a. Last longer in the plataue and b. Get into the plataue before I spike to 9.5 not after.

Any input on the 2 different plateaus I'm experiencing? Graphs show only 1 kind but I feel 2 kinds. Maybe it's the same kind just experiencing it at different arousal levels.

Yeah once you can plateau at a lower level of arousal for a while, it's good to progress your edging by adding stimulation like porn or faster strokes. Then try to plateau at higher levels. Plateau at higher level will be harder to maintain so you can cut stimulation to do this, which you already seem to be doing. You can play around with the kind of stimulation you remove as well. You can go from fleshlight to hand or stop thinking erotic thoughts, if that's what you use when edging.

**ACPreE** · 07-11-2019

Originally Posted by Bobsadcock

Yeah once you can plateau at a lower level of arousal for a while, it's good to progress your edging by adding stimulation like porn or faster strokes. Then try to plateau at higher levels. Plateau at higher level will be harder to maintain so you can cut stimulation to do this, which you already seem to be doing. You can play around with the kind of stimulation you remove as well. You can go from fleshlight to hand or stop thinking erotic thoughts, if that's what you use when edging.

That is the thing, I normally sit at about 5-7 for a good while while masturbating. The sensation goes up and down but not straight up like in real sex. I normally stroke pretty fast and with a hard grip but arousal stays pretty consistent during the first 15-20mins (I wish same was for real sex lol) But then without changing anything at about the 20min mark, of which I edged for about 50mins yesterday, arousal went from the 7 mark to 8 9 in maybe 10-15 strokes till i had to completely stop, holding the arousal at its highest point right before PONR and with no IKs.

The plateaus iv been reading about is said to feel like a ton of sensation but controllable. The first 20mins is kind of a plateau but it fluctuates from 5 (hard but not very much sensation) to 7 (a decent amount of sensation) after i spiked to 9.5 and brought it down and regained control, I settled in a higher plateau for a little bit at about 7.5 -8 ish. This is the plateau area i think is the target area to get into through build up not calming down. Every stroke felt great in this plateau and arousal didn't go right back up to PONR for a couple minutes. I was using imagination and lube with hand so maybe my imagination triggered in my brain to orgasm time which is why the spike came.

Going to practice trying to get into the higher plateau from the build up. Noticing when the spike is happening and slowing down is probably the key. 2 and 2 sounds like if I can catch the spiking and slow down, i can retrain the brain to not spike arousal but instead retrain a gradual progression.

Kind of afraid to use audio/porn again as iv already destroyed my brain through kegeling to porn for the last 15years trying to reset and reprogram.
About 4 months porn free now.

**Bobsadcock** · 07-12-2019

Originally Posted by ACPreE

That is the thing, I normally sit at about 5-7 for a good while while masturbating. The sensation goes up and down but not straight up like in real sex. I normally stroke pretty fast and with a hard grip but arousal stays pretty consistent during the first 15-20mins (I wish same was for real sex lol) But then without changing anything at about the 20min mark, of which I edged for about 50mins yesterday, arousal went from the 7 mark to 8 9 in maybe 10-15 strokes till i had to completely stop, holding the arousal at its highest point right before PONR and with no IKs.

The plateaus iv been reading about is said to feel like a ton of sensation but controllable. The first 20mins is kind of a plateau but it fluctuates from 5 (hard but not very much sensation) to 7 (a decent amount of sensation) after i spiked to 9.5 and brought it down and regained control, I settled in a higher plateau for a little bit at about 7.5 -8 ish. This is the plateau area i think is the target area to get into through build up not calming down. Every stroke felt great in this plateau and arousal didn't go right back up to PONR for a couple minutes. I was using imagination and lube with hand so maybe my imagination triggered in my brain to orgasm time which is why the spike came.

Going to practice trying to get into the higher plateau from the build up. Noticing when the spike is happening and slowing down is probably the key. 2 and 2 sounds like if I can catch the spiking and slow down, i can retrain the brain to not spike arousal but instead retrain a gradual progression.

Kind of afraid to use audio/porn again as iv already destroyed my brain through kegeling to porn for the last 15years trying to reset and reprogram.
About 4 months porn free now.

50 minutes is a long time to edge. I only do twenty plus minutes, but I used to have trouble staying hard at 15 minutes. It could have been that my body just wasn't used to going for that long. It might be a similar thing with you.

**ACPreE** · 07-13-2019

Well i'm staying hard the whole time, its just the fluctuation of arousal. I know when it fluctuates in erection because i got side tracked and the head becomes smaller.

**ACPreE** · 07-13-2019

Log Entry: 7/13/19

Last night was better! Had sex and was able to last a couple minutes of sex. She was on her side and I was thrusting and arousal stayed steady for a bit. I started going up in arousal and started to slow down.
The sensation started feeling better and better and I think I started to panic kegel because I thought I was hitting ponr but I think I wasnt. I think I was on the edge of getting into plataue and I panicked because I didnt want to cum.

So I kegeled and that brought me to the ponr and held back the orgasm. After that I stayed rock hard and was able to keep going till she was done. Like 20mins later. I really was trying hard to cum but couldnt. Knew my second phase after a kegel stop was going to last long but I was more excited about the phase 1 before.

I know iv been at this a while but I think the plateau edging is still too new to me still. When I get more comfortable getting into plataue, I think my initial stamina will be better too. I just got scared being used to pleasure = orgasm wasnt expecting to last as long as I did.

Foreplay -15mins
Penetration on her side ~4mins probably could a lasted a min or 2 more if I relaxed better and didnt kegel.
Lasted 15+mins after kegeling to hold back.

**ACPreE** · 07-17-2019

Log Entry: 7/17/2019

Been a few days since I updated and I like to stay current so when i'm cured I can look back and really see the progress, up and down. After I had started to see progress in my time, I had increased the intensity of my routine.

Working the RKs much harder now and consistently throughout the day. Walking/Sitting doesn't matter. Every time I remember, I push some good strong RKs with deep belly breathing. Building that deep breathing / RK connection.

Iv also been working on the whole self awareness idea and trying to be less tense. After watching a youtube video someone suggested here, I have been practicing releasing tension throughout the body. Always catch my shoulders tensed and other parts of my body.

Iv also have been really trying to home in on the large burst of pleasure before PONR where the spike normally happens. I could edge for 15mins from 5-7 but then it would rush to 8 9 after that 15min mark or close to it. Once I start to notice the spike about to hit I dramatically reduce the speed which slightly slows down the spike then when it hits 9.5 i stop and as it calms down to 9 i stroke veeeery slowly and it jumps back to 9.5 and hover this area for a bit. Keep doing that until arousal slides slowly back down to 8.5 and then try and stroke consistently again but slowly.

This give incredible sensation and I think this is the plateau ammanite had mentioned in his plateau edging thread. I'm working it this way in hopes to smooth out the spike and retrain my body that it isn't a rush to the finish. The first 15mins or so my body figured it out but it still has a strong connection with snowballing pleasure into orgasm.

In real sex that 15mins turns into 2mins or so before the snowballing spike to PONR. Going to practice this more intensive edging for a bit and see if i see any progress on smoothing out that rush to PONR. Will be updating as soon as my gf is in the mood again

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**ACPreE** · 07-21-2019

Log Entry: 7/21/19

Had sex with my gf last night and It was amazing. I tried to take everything slow. Slow build up with foreplay, got her really into. After about 10-15mins of kissing her all over and going down on her she wanted to suck my dick. She sucked until I was getting close then i pushed her back down and went down on her some more to calm my arousal before I entered her. Feel like i was plateaued the whole time because I stayed level.
She went on her side with one leg knee bent for about 5-10mins then she went flat on her stomach and I rode her a good long while. I was controlling my breathing and keeping my focus on her pleasure and how i was thrusting. The PONR wasn't even a thought and it showed.
When you go from comments like, "Thats it?" "So fast?" to "This is how I love getting fucked" "You are fucking my pussy so good" Its a much needed change.

Only preparation was about 1-2mins of deep belly breaths with RKs to relax and loosen the PF.

Stepping up the routine seems to be helping. Harder and more often RKs, Longer edging sessions with emphasis on Plateau edging.