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[petrpan]

Hi PE_Hell,
I see you already received few replies about how your routine was not a proper routine, etc. They are probably right, but I still understand your frustration.
Pre-E sucks and there is no single exercise that will fix it....

My advices
First of all, try Pau Yuen Tong balm instead of numbing spray. I remember I read one post here from a guy who said he never had success with numbing sprays and then tried PYT, which finally worked for him. I can tell it really works for me too! However I think I also read, that it didn't work for some..
Now when using PYT or any numbing product, you need to plan sex, because it needs to stay on your penis for some time before it makes it numb. And that quite sucks.

I am married and my approach is to lower dosages of PYT in tme while I will still do exercises to improve my PreE.
Exercise I really like is glans squeezing. Whenever I do them after a longer break I have lots of IK's - same as with sex, but I am getting better slowly. IK's are our biggest enemy imo. That's why I am trying to get rid of them from my life. Instead of 1hours of walking do cycling. There was a guy who swore it cured his PreE. And I trust it. It's a perfect PF massage and good cardio. I will try to start cycling myself. If you can't cycle, just buy a tennis ball and start sitting on it when you can.
Reverse kegels - I don't think need to do them religiously hundreds every day. You just need learn how to master them properly so you can relax your PE properly whenever you want.
PF stretching - preferably daily at least a few minutes to make your PF more relaxed.

[Pegasus]

Hi PE_Hell,
I see you already received few replies about how your routine was not a proper routine, etc. They are probably right, but I still understand your frustration.
Pre-E sucks and there is no single exercise that will fix it....

My advices
First of all, try Pau Yuen Tong balm instead of numbing spray. I remember I read one post here from a guy who said he never had success with numbing sprays and then tried PYT, which finally worked for him. I can tell it really works for me too! However I think I also read, that it didn't work for some..
Now when using PYT or any numbing product, you need to plan sex, because it needs to stay on your penis for some time before it makes it numb. And that quite sucks.

I am married and my approach is to lower dosages of PYT in tme while I will still do exercises to improve my PreE.
Exercise I really like is glans squeezing. Whenever I do them after a longer break I have lots of IK's - same as with sex, but I am getting better slowly. IK's are our biggest enemy imo. That's why I am trying to get rid of them from my life. Instead of 1hours of walking do cycling. There was a guy who swore it cured his PreE. And I trust it. It's a perfect PF massage and good cardio. I will try to start cycling myself. If you can't cycle, just buy a tennis ball and start sitting on it when you can.
Reverse kegels - I don't think need to do them religiously hundreds every day. You just need learn how to master them properly so you can relax your PE properly whenever you want.

Avoid the issue hmm no . I do not encourage numbing sprays of any kind.
Just go do the basics . Fact is it rare to do them well.

[PE_Hell]

I don't have PE

Good for you.

[PE_Hell]

If there is no point then why are you here posting? If you want help say what you have tried, your routine and how consistent. If "sometimes" is in your routine, it's not a routine.

Answer these questions and let's go from there.

What stretches have you tried? How often did you do them? For how long?
Do you have APT?
What was your rk/kegel routine?
Do you get anxiety or nervous before penetration?
Do you edge?
Do you suck in or tense up your abs?
Do you tend to hold a slight kegel all day?
Do you kegel while masterbating or during sex?
Do you use porn?
Do you get IKs?

You are a trainwreck if you think there is no hope and no point. There are many who have cured themselves. That kind of attitude only makes your problem worse.

If you want help just ask but ranting about how everything doesnt work as you try something else... well then u didnt try everything. Or you tried everything but didnt give it enough time or you were doing it wrong.

We want to help but you need to come in with the attitude that you are willing to take the help we offer.

Kegels are a meme. My PC muscle is stronge enough to CUT the fucking cum going out of my dick which causes retrograde ejaculation, which is unhealthy.

The problem of premature ejaculation is overstimulation, I presume the precum that builds up fater for me than for the average guy is what causes PONR fast. This overstimulation should be a combination of brain stuff + hormones (my DHT is abnormally high, tested with bloodworks, for instance) and my dick having massive amount of nerve endings, which is why my dick feels insanely good even at age 30, just like a teen. I can have an erection and put my sheet around my cock and balls and cum without touching it, just looking at a BJ pov porn video which is realistic as you see what you see in real life so no bullshit cope arguments about porn.

My PC Muscle is relaxed throught the day. Like I said it's stronge enough if I tense it, I don't need no routine to overtrain it. When you pee everytime you give it a workout each day so no need to overtrain.

I can edge for hours, it's useless in real life with a girl.

I barely watch any porn anymore. Just sometimes. Noporn is yet another meme copout. If you aren't addicted is a non issue. Everyone watches porn nowadays. As long as is normal, specially POV stuff.

I don't know what IK is.

[PE_Hell]

How's your refractory period? Can you go fast for another round?
I know at my worst pre-e times I just came fast and was so aroused I could go for a 2nd round within minutes.

Well im not 15 anymore so it takes a while. I bought cialis in order to try to cope with a faster refractory period so its not as embarrassing with a escort however cialis gives me an headache. I tried viagra and sort of works but didn't cum, just edged. Both are useless for actual PE cure.

The biggest dissapointed was finding out priligy doesn't do much which is the only approved medication for PE.

My last hope is a spray called Fortacin which is medically approved (none of the dodgy ass chinese crap that it's sold online, I only buy stuff at the pharmacy)

[ACPreE]

So u dont have a routine then?

[PE_Hell]

Hi PE_Hell,
I see you already received few replies about how your routine was not a proper routine, etc. They are probably right, but I still understand your frustration.
Pre-E sucks and there is no single exercise that will fix it....

My advices
First of all, try Pau Yuen Tong balm instead of numbing spray. I remember I read one post here from a guy who said he never had success with numbing sprays and then tried PYT, which finally worked for him. I can tell it really works for me too! However I think I also read, that it didn't work for some..
Now when using PYT or any numbing product, you need to plan sex, because it needs to stay on your penis for some time before it makes it numb. And that quite sucks.

I am married and my approach is to lower dosages of PYT in tme while I will still do exercises to improve my PreE.
Exercise I really like is glans squeezing. Whenever I do them after a longer break I have lots of IK's - same as with sex, but I am getting better slowly. IK's are our biggest enemy imo. That's why I am trying to get rid of them from my life. Instead of 1hours of walking do cycling. There was a guy who swore it cured his PreE. And I trust it. It's a perfect PF massage and good cardio. I will try to start cycling myself. If you can't cycle, just buy a tennis ball and start sitting on it when you can.
Reverse kegels - I don't think need to do them religiously hundreds every day. You just need learn how to master them properly so you can relax your PE properly whenever you want.
PF stretching - preferably daily at least a few minutes to make your PF more relaxed.

My PC muscle is always relaxed. The IK which I guess you mean involuntary kegels, come when im about to cum, which is fast. I have no mechanical problems. The only mechanical problem I may have is that my frenulum is sightly thight, and as my cock gets hard the frenulum becomes stretched giving a constant stream of stimulation.. which is why I want to try the Fortacin on my frenulum, since im not really looking forward for any surgery, since it's not as bad as not being able to fully retract the foreskin.

Other than that, no, my PC muscle is ok, im fit (not fat), I can walk for 2 hours and not get tired.

The problem lies somewhere between sightly tight frenulum + over stimulation due genetics (my cock and balls are abnormally tanned compared to the rest of the body, which is typically found in high libido individuals), my DHT is off the charts (im f*cking balding to both, i've been on minoxifil and finasteride foam for years and im soon going to start a dutasteride inyections treatment on the scalp to try to stop this another disease) but that's irrelevant, I have had this shit since before before i started any treatments.

There must also be something going on with serotonin/dopamine/adrenaline.. who knows. Those are what have an impact at a "lizard-brain" level which is were the reflex for ejaculation is located.

I can edge for hours by stopping right before the PONR, but this is useless when a girl is sucking your dick because the PONR is reached insider her, so you explode, it's not like stopping any stimulation instantly with your hand.

[djmotion]

POV or not, it's still fucking porn and one of the main causes for pre-e "tried everything", yet still watches porn. Sorry for being harsh but I think you need it.

Fact like that you can edge for hours to porn yet with a real girl you can't hold it screams that the issue is porn addiction. I've spoken to many who have it and suffered it myself and the majority of the ones who had pre-e said they could edge to porn but ejaculated straight away with women. Porn causes over-stimulation. "everybody watches porn" sounds like an addictive justification to me. This is pulled from psychology today on the 2 main causes for pre-e. Also says 30% of men between 18-29 suffer with it......


PE has two major causes: youth and pornography. Young men have very excitable nervous systems. They're primed to ejaculate and don't even need sex to do it (wet dreams). In addition, in our culture, men are supposed to orchestrate sex, but few young men know much about lovemaking. This causes anxiety, which makes the nervous system more excitable and more prone to PE, which often becomes a conditioned reflex that can last a lifetime.


Meanwhile, pornography has become the leading sex educator of men. Internet porn is available for free 24-7. In a previous blog, I argued that porn does not cause rape (read more). But porn causes sexual harm. It teaches sex all wrong, deluding men about what good sex is. No wonder so many women complain that men are erotically clueless. Here's the deal, guys: Porn is almost entirely genital. Boy meets girl, and faster than dropping a zipper, they're deep into oral sex and intercourse. Porn-style all-genital sex puts tremendous pressure on the penis, which reacts by ejaculating quickly. Porn-style sex cements PE.

Fortunately, in just a few months, the vast majority of men can break the PE habit and learn to last as long as they'd like. The cure combines deep breathing and relaxation with doing the opposite of what you see in porn, namely embracing leisurely, playful, massage-based, whole-body sensuality that spreads erotic arousal from just the penis to every square inch of the body, taking pressure off the penis.


Many surveys show that women prefer lovemaking based on leisurely, playful, whole-body sensuality. Of course, this lovemaking style includes the genitals, but unlike porn, is not fixated on them. Men who embrace the self-help PE cure gain not only ejaculatory control, but also happier lovers. Ironically, women become happier not just because the man lasts longer--only 25 percent of women are consistently orgasmic during intercourse no matter how long it lasts (read more)--but because the program that cures PE teaches men to make love the way women prefer, with the emphasis on whole-body sensually.

[PE_Hell]

So u dont have a routine then?

Not anymore. I tried kegels and reverse kegels daily, I have also reached a point where my PC muscle is always relaxed. There's no point in obsessing with annoying routines. My PC muscle is strong enough to cause retrograde ejaculation. The problem here is that I reach the PONR TOO FAST.

So need to decrease my sensitivity (numbing spray, which is a fucking annoying thing as you need to apply it 5 minutes before sex...) and act at an hormonal/neurotransmitter level.

[PE_Hell]

POV or not, it's still fucking porn and one of the main causes for pre-e "tried everything", yet still watches porn. Sorry for being harsh but I think you need it.

Fact like that you can edge for hours to porn yet with a real girl you can't hold it screams that the issue is porn addiction. I've spoken to many who have it and suffered it myself and the majority of the ones who had pre-e said they could edge to porn but ejaculated straight away with women. Porn causes over-stimulation. "everybody watches porn" sounds like an addictive justification to me. This is pulled from psychology today on the 2 main causes for pre-e. Also says 30% of men between 18-29 suffer with it......


PE has two major causes: youth and pornography. Young men have very excitable nervous systems. They're primed to ejaculate and don't even need sex to do it (wet dreams). In addition, in our culture, men are supposed to orchestrate sex, but few young men know much about lovemaking. This causes anxiety, which makes the nervous system more excitable and more prone to PE, which often becomes a conditioned reflex that can last a lifetime.


Meanwhile, pornography has become the leading sex educator of men. Internet porn is available for free 24-7. In a previous blog, I argued that porn does not cause rape (read more). But porn causes sexual harm. It teaches sex all wrong, deluding men about what good sex is. No wonder so many women complain that men are erotically clueless. Here's the deal, guys: Porn is almost entirely genital. Boy meets girl, and faster than dropping a zipper, they're deep into oral sex and intercourse. Porn-style all-genital sex puts tremendous pressure on the penis, which reacts by ejaculating quickly. Porn-style sex cements PE.

Fortunately, in just a few months, the vast majority of men can break the PE habit and learn to last as long as they'd like. The cure combines deep breathing and relaxation with doing the opposite of what you see in porn, namely embracing leisurely, playful, massage-based, whole-body sensuality that spreads erotic arousal from just the penis to every square inch of the body, taking pressure off the penis.


Many surveys show that women prefer lovemaking based on leisurely, playful, whole-body sensuality. Of course, this lovemaking style includes the genitals, but unlike porn, is not fixated on them. Men who embrace the self-help PE cure gain not only ejaculatory control, but also happier lovers. Ironically, women become happier not just because the man lasts longer--only 25 percent of women are consistently orgasmic during intercourse no matter how long it lasts (read more)--but because the program that cures PE teaches men to make love the way women prefer, with the emphasis on whole-body sensually.

You don't have PE.

And no, I don't have a porn addiction. I have gone months without watching any porn, that is not how an addiction looks like.

There's porn that's highly erotical. Google Klixen pov videos, those are f*cking awesome.

And yes, everyone watches porn, with more or less frequency. You either have PE or not. It's irrelevant as long as it's not an addiction.

Why are you copy pasting some article from some website anyway.