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[PE_Hell Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Hell]

Im turning 30 and im still cuming fast as f*ck. There's no point. I have tried everything. Including finally getting some Priligy, tried 30 and 60mg, didn't really do much... maybe some extra seconds before the urge comes. Totally useless on a real life situation with a girl, just like kegels, reverse kegels and so on. People that last longer just have less nerve density and feel less pleasure so the reflex to cum doesn't come as fast... simple as that. It's my realization after 30 years of suffering real PE (most people don't have real PE and think they do)

The last thing I will try before I completely give up is a numbing spray. Will try it with a escort (dumb to bother with a sex life without paying as a PEcel anyway) then see what happens. It will probably suck just like everything else but whatever.

Kegels: My PC muscle is strong enough to retro ejaculate so its not a problem.
Edging: I can edge for hours, useless with a real girl situation.
Fitness: I am skinny but athletic, I walk an hour everyday.

Let's hope the numbing cream works because im out of options.

[djmotion Senior Member Member of the Month March 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close djmotion]

Bullshit. I masturbated 5 times a day when I was younger and my penis was much more sensitive (you'll know why in a sec). I could literally last hours in bed and had delayed ejaculation. Fast forward to today, I've had my frenulum cut off and my dick is way less sensitive and I can cum in 10 minutes (during sex), probably 20 with masturbation. I do have the option to last as long as I want but if I rush then it's 10 mins or so even though my dick is less sensitive.

One thing I learned is that when someone says "I've tried everything", what they usually mean is "I've tried a few things but I really wasn't consistent/dedicated". Where there's a will, there's a way. If you want curing then find the cure. Just so you know there's guys on here that could last 2 mins and are now lasting over 20 mins.

[djmotion Senior Member Member of the Month March 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close djmotion]

I don't know a lot about Pre-E cause I never had to deal with it but from what I've heard it's caused because you trained yourself to cum quick during teen years whereas some people cummed in appropriate times (average) and some like me would masturbate or have sex for hours and trained ourselves to last that long.

In recent years I began to rush it more hence why I cum a little quicker now. So in reality you just need to train your mind to last long.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

If there is no point then why are you here posting? If you want help say what you have tried, your routine and how consistent. If "sometimes" is in your routine, it's not a routine.

Answer these questions and let's go from there.

What stretches have you tried? How often did you do them? For how long?
Do you have APT?
What was your rk/kegel routine?
Do you get anxiety or nervous before penetration?
Do you edge?
Do you suck in or tense up your abs?
Do you tend to hold a slight kegel all day?
Do you kegel while masterbating or during sex?
Do you use porn?
Do you get IKs?

You are a trainwreck if you think there is no hope and no point. There are many who have cured themselves. That kind of attitude only makes your problem worse.

If you want help just ask but ranting about how everything doesnt work as you try something else... well then u didnt try everything. Or you tried everything but didnt give it enough time or you were doing it wrong.

We want to help but you need to come in with the attitude that you are willing to take the help we offer.

[Bobsadcock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bobsadcock]

Hrm I say if you really want to give up then go ahead. And it doesn't have to be forever, you can give up for a bit and try again in future. Being obsessed over something isn't healthy, and there's so much to life to explore and enjoy, even without sex.

But if you don't want to give up then keep trying but don't get hung up on results. I know there are guys here who will say everyone is guaranteed to be cured with enough hard work and dedication. But honestly I don't think anyone can know for sure, especially based on the bit of information shared on an online forum. You might go your whole life without being any better, we don't know. If you want to try then keep trying, but you'll have to accept that. And the same goes for life, really, nothing is guaranteed. You can work your ass off and never get anywhere. But we try anyway.

[djmotion Senior Member Member of the Month March 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close djmotion]

No offence but that's the worst piece of advice I've ever heard Only thing that comes from giving up is regret and not knowing if you would have made improvements.

[ACPreE Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close ACPreE]

I think Bob meant take a break not necessarily give up. Maybe take some time off stressing about it and collect yourself, come back, and try again but stronger and more focued

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

"Tried everything " oh how very many times I have heard that and has not yet once been true .

Read the "must read stickies " in the pre e forum ,start a progress thread get the basics right . Your head issues are part of the basics so anger ,despair , hopelessness,catastrophizing etc are direct problems feeding into your issue .

[djmotion Senior Member Member of the Month March 2019 Find all posts View Profile Close djmotion]

I think Bob meant take a break not necessarily give up. Maybe take some time off stressing about it and collect yourself, come back, and try again but stronger and more focued

I still don't agree. I found PEgym 7 years ago and was never consistent with a routine and completely regret it. I would make gains then give up. I could have already hit my goal by now but this time I'm going for it and now at the best measurements I've had in my life. Giving up isn't the answer and causes you to become complacent. Taking a break to clear your mind should be considered a rest and only be 1-2 weeks long max.

[DickerSchwanz Senior Member Member of the Month Sept 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close DickerSchwanz]

How's your refractory period? Can you go fast for another round?
I know at my worst pre-e times I just came fast and was so aroused I could go for a 2nd round within minutes.

[petrpan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close petrpan]

Hi PE_Hell,
I see you already received few replies about how your routine was not a proper routine, etc. They are probably right, but I still understand your frustration.
Pre-E sucks and there is no single exercise that will fix it....

My advices
First of all, try Pau Yuen Tong balm instead of numbing spray. I remember I read one post here from a guy who said he never had success with numbing sprays and then tried PYT, which finally worked for him. I can tell it really works for me too! However I think I also read, that it didn't work for some..
Now when using PYT or any numbing product, you need to plan sex, because it needs to stay on your penis for some time before it makes it numb. And that quite sucks.

I am married and my approach is to lower dosages of PYT in tme while I will still do exercises to improve my PreE.
Exercise I really like is glans squeezing. Whenever I do them after a longer break I have lots of IK's - same as with sex, but I am getting better slowly. IK's are our biggest enemy imo. That's why I am trying to get rid of them from my life. Instead of 1hours of walking do cycling. There was a guy who swore it cured his PreE. And I trust it. It's a perfect PF massage and good cardio. I will try to start cycling myself. If you can't cycle, just buy a tennis ball and start sitting on it when you can.
Reverse kegels - I don't think need to do them religiously hundreds every day. You just need learn how to master them properly so you can relax your PE properly whenever you want.
PF stretching - preferably daily at least a few minutes to make your PF more relaxed.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Hi PE_Hell,
I see you already received few replies about how your routine was not a proper routine, etc. They are probably right, but I still understand your frustration.
Pre-E sucks and there is no single exercise that will fix it....

My advices
First of all, try Pau Yuen Tong balm instead of numbing spray. I remember I read one post here from a guy who said he never had success with numbing sprays and then tried PYT, which finally worked for him. I can tell it really works for me too! However I think I also read, that it didn't work for some..
Now when using PYT or any numbing product, you need to plan sex, because it needs to stay on your penis for some time before it makes it numb. And that quite sucks.

I am married and my approach is to lower dosages of PYT in tme while I will still do exercises to improve my PreE.
Exercise I really like is glans squeezing. Whenever I do them after a longer break I have lots of IK's - same as with sex, but I am getting better slowly. IK's are our biggest enemy imo. That's why I am trying to get rid of them from my life. Instead of 1hours of walking do cycling. There was a guy who swore it cured his PreE. And I trust it. It's a perfect PF massage and good cardio. I will try to start cycling myself. If you can't cycle, just buy a tennis ball and start sitting on it when you can.
Reverse kegels - I don't think need to do them religiously hundreds every day. You just need learn how to master them properly so you can relax your PE properly whenever you want.

Avoid the issue hmm no . I do not encourage numbing sprays of any kind.
Just go do the basics . Fact is it rare to do them well.

[PE_Hell Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Hell]

I don't have PE

Good for you.

[PE_Hell Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Hell]

If there is no point then why are you here posting? If you want help say what you have tried, your routine and how consistent. If "sometimes" is in your routine, it's not a routine.

Answer these questions and let's go from there.

What stretches have you tried? How often did you do them? For how long?
Do you have APT?
What was your rk/kegel routine?
Do you get anxiety or nervous before penetration?
Do you edge?
Do you suck in or tense up your abs?
Do you tend to hold a slight kegel all day?
Do you kegel while masterbating or during sex?
Do you use porn?
Do you get IKs?

You are a trainwreck if you think there is no hope and no point. There are many who have cured themselves. That kind of attitude only makes your problem worse.

If you want help just ask but ranting about how everything doesnt work as you try something else... well then u didnt try everything. Or you tried everything but didnt give it enough time or you were doing it wrong.

We want to help but you need to come in with the attitude that you are willing to take the help we offer.

Kegels are a meme. My PC muscle is stronge enough to CUT the fucking cum going out of my dick which causes retrograde ejaculation, which is unhealthy.

The problem of premature ejaculation is overstimulation, I presume the precum that builds up fater for me than for the average guy is what causes PONR fast. This overstimulation should be a combination of brain stuff + hormones (my DHT is abnormally high, tested with bloodworks, for instance) and my dick having massive amount of nerve endings, which is why my dick feels insanely good even at age 30, just like a teen. I can have an erection and put my sheet around my cock and balls and cum without touching it, just looking at a BJ pov porn video which is realistic as you see what you see in real life so no bullshit cope arguments about porn.

My PC Muscle is relaxed throught the day. Like I said it's stronge enough if I tense it, I don't need no routine to overtrain it. When you pee everytime you give it a workout each day so no need to overtrain.

I can edge for hours, it's useless in real life with a girl.

I barely watch any porn anymore. Just sometimes. Noporn is yet another meme copout. If you aren't addicted is a non issue. Everyone watches porn nowadays. As long as is normal, specially POV stuff.

I don't know what IK is.

[PE_Hell Member Find all posts View Profile Close PE_Hell]

How's your refractory period? Can you go fast for another round?
I know at my worst pre-e times I just came fast and was so aroused I could go for a 2nd round within minutes.

Well im not 15 anymore so it takes a while. I bought cialis in order to try to cope with a faster refractory period so its not as embarrassing with a escort however cialis gives me an headache. I tried viagra and sort of works but didn't cum, just edged. Both are useless for actual PE cure.

The biggest dissapointed was finding out priligy doesn't do much which is the only approved medication for PE.

My last hope is a spray called Fortacin which is medically approved (none of the dodgy ass chinese crap that it's sold online, I only buy stuff at the pharmacy)