The best foreplay I ever had

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Met this girl from same night. End up going to her aparment. Drinking red wine and eating food she made. She was in to Tai Chi and I was in to Krav Maga. We end up wrestling at her living room for foreplay. She kick, punch and bite me and I just block them all. Throw her to sofa and start to kissing and made out. We took 3 match and I won all of them.

After I show her who is the boss in the house she then start to respect me and kissing me and doing alot of dry humping againts my body and teasing me. The different between this foreplay and other from the pasts was that she was doing things for me, she was trying to please me, trying to make me horny. The first time in my life I didnt rush and trying to please the girl or make her horny. I was enjoying every fucking movement she was doing. The best foreplay I ever had. My EQ was at 4-9 during the foreplay and she need to earn that wich was rare (normally at these points my EQ would be a 10 and already at PONR or already cum for the foreplay). I was in the moment. I touch her body and lick her tits in perfect timing with the perfect pressure. Everything was so perfect. Not rush at all. She masturbate my cock and suck it but I wasnt even close to the PONR.

She then went to toilet for cleaning her pussy or something. In the meanwhile I was stretching my hipflexors to making sure they are not tight. After that, everything went downhill. I got PONR in seconds she masturbate me or sucking me. After I came 2 times, I told her about my premature ejaculation. She was very supportive and understanding. I did came 4 time that night in about 5min. It was pitiful sex. I could saw how dissapoited she was. Even after I came 4 time, she was trying to continue intercourse with me and sucking my limp dick. So sad.

Fuuuuuuckkk. The foreplay was so perfeeect. How could I fail the sex!!!!!! Fuckk.

Discussion:
Why was I succeed in foreplay this time? Maybe the key thing was my mindset. My mindset was "she needs to earn my hard cock. I dont get erection for free. She need to work for it." I didnt tryi to make her horny or please her. She was horny by trying to pleasing me.

Conclusion:
Dont chase her. Let her chase you.

Does anybody had same experience?

[TheZZMan Moderator Member of the Month Sept 2018PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close TheZZMan]

We all have off days, it is understandable. If these off days are the norm, then we need to address the root causes of your Pre-E and come up with a gameplan to change things. Chin up, ask her over for a grind again and see where it goes.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

TheZZMan, i had Pre E whole my life. I lost my virginity at the age 19 and now im 29. Its been decade now. My pre e diary https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ke-simple.html

[Bobsadcock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bobsadcock]

I can't comment on the mental aspect because that wasn't something I paid attention to.

But from the way you describe your foreplay it sounds like she spent a lot of time stimulating your dick and you felt in control at first, until your arousal spiked unexpectedly. Now I think it's a bad idea for us pre e guys to get too much dick stimulation during foreplay. For myself, I don't even let my arousal go over 5 or 6 before i stop the girl from jerking or sucking me off before sex. I advise you let her do that a bit, then shift the focus to her and pay lots of attention to her body while your dick can calm down, then move on to intercourse in a position that you are most comfortable, and use all your arousal control techniques that you've been practicing during edging and try to last as long as possible.

[Bobsadcock Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Bobsadcock]

And once intercourse has begun, try to treat it like an edging session, use her pussy the way you use a flesh light, pay less attention to her and more attention to controlling your arousal.

[peforever Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close peforever]

I always had PRE-E and without alcohol or cannabis, I usually last less than 1 minute for the first round, but if I continue right away or after couple of minutes, I can usually can go forever and most of times stop after my wife is satisfied. Are you saying, even after cumming, you cum right away the second, third and fourth time?

As an example two nights ago, I was having sex and going slowly since I was near PONR. My wife went to bathroom for a minute and I decided to cum before she cums back and I was able to carry on without her noticing and actually didn’t cum the second time after 15 minutes of going fast.

I just feel less sensations when I start second round right away, but much better with cannabis, since it already makes you feel more sensations ( I always wear cock ring during sex).

I usually smoke cannabis at night and it helps me a little (I am completely ok with bj and can have sex very slowly). One thing I have noticed is I can last much longer by holding a light RK and standing by the bed with legs in reverse V. I also take 5 mg cialis most of the time about an hour before sex (it helps with golf right away second round and the dose is very low if only used before sex and not every day).

Another thing that has helped is PYT cream, but I haven’t use it recently since you lose little bit of sensation and need to apply the correct amount and time.

Met this girl from same night. End up going to her aparment. Drinking red wine and eating food she made. She was in to Tai Chi and I was in to Krav Maga. We end up wrestling at her living room for foreplay. She kick, punch and bite me and I just block them all. Throw her to sofa and start to kissing and made out. We took 3 match and I won all of them.

After I show her who is the boss in the house she then start to respect me and kissing me and doing alot of dry humping againts my body and teasing me. The different between this foreplay and other from the pasts was that she was doing things for me, she was trying to please me, trying to make me horny. The first time in my life I didnt rush and trying to please the girl or make her horny. I was enjoying every fucking movement she was doing. The best foreplay I ever had. My EQ was at 4-9 during the foreplay and she need to earn that wich was rare (normally at these points my EQ would be a 10 and already at PONR or already cum for the foreplay). I was in the moment. I touch her body and lick her tits in perfect timing with the perfect pressure. Everything was so perfect. Not rush at all. She masturbate my cock and suck it but I wasnt even close to the PONR.

She then went to toilet for cleaning her pussy or something. In the meanwhile I was stretching my hipflexors to making sure they are not tight. After that, everything went downhill. I got PONR in seconds she masturbate me or sucking me. After I came 2 times, I told her about my premature ejaculation. She was very supportive and understanding. I did came 4 time that night in about 5min. It was pitiful sex. I could saw how dissapoited she was. Even after I came 4 time, she was trying to continue intercourse with me and sucking my limp dick. So sad.

Fuuuuuuckkk. The foreplay was so perfeeect. How could I fail the sex!!!!!! Fuckk.

Discussion:
Why was I succeed in foreplay this time? Maybe the key thing was my mindset. My mindset was "she needs to earn my hard cock. I dont get erection for free. She need to work for it." I didnt tryi to make her horny or please her. She was horny by trying to pleasing me.

Conclusion:
Dont chase her. Let her chase you.

Does anybody had same experience?

[soon2bhuge Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close soon2bhuge]

Ankle, I think the progress that you made during foreplay is a huge step, be proud of that!

When she went to the bathroom, what was your mind doing? Going crazy or did you stay calm?

My last 2 encounters that went well, I honestly didn't have a single thought about cumming early. I was too busy enjoying her. And I felt really comfortable and "safe", like no matter whats gonna happen I'm gonna be alright. It's weird because you often hear people say "just be in the moment". But when you're edging and practicing solo and you focus on the "moment" (i.e. moans, body, etc. when visually stimulated), it gets so much harder not to cum. I found this to be the opposite in real sex.

BUT - now that she knows your issue, you can probably take a much more relaxed approach. During the day, whenever you can, have positive thoughts about your next performance, visualize lasting long, think that you'Re gonna DOMINATE her!

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

When she went to the bathroom, what was your mind doing? Going crazy or did you stay calm?

My mind wasnt going crazy but it wasnt calm also. I just did hipflexor meanwhile she went to the bathroom.

The difference between before bathroom and after bathroom was I was rushing to have an erection even thought I never ever had an erection problem.

My last 2 encounters that went well, I honestly didn't have a single thought about cumming early. I was too busy enjoying her.

This was exacly same experience I was experiencing before he went to bathroom.


1 different thing I did in that day was "body awareness" exercise. It was my first time I did this exersice throuhoug the day. I felt tense in many parts of my body when I was with her. And could relax them or just accept them. Im not sure is this was the key for my success.

In your latest thread, you said you were aware of your body tightness also. Im not sure are we talking about same thing here.

[petrpan Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close petrpan]

Why was I succeed in foreplay this time?

welll foreplay isn't an intercourse. Most of the guys can last longer during blowjob/handjob. Also if you were performing a physical activity right before, that could have prolonged the time towards PONR. I've experienced that multiple times. It sucks to hear that the stretching didn't help. What about IK's? When I have problems with lasting long I usually realize I am in a one long IK which builds up tension in my PF very quickly and then PONR comes quickly.
Lately I have learned to fully focus on my PF during sex which is helping me together with PYT to last longer. In the meantime I am slowly reducing doses of PYT.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

And once intercourse has begun, try to treat it like an edging session, use her pussy the way you use a flesh light, pay less attention to her and more attention to controlling your arousal.

Paying attention to controlling your arousal = Praying attention to yourself = Body awareness

This is the body awareness im talking about.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Lately I have learned to fully focus on my PF during sex which is helping me together with PYT to last longer.

Fully focus on PF during sex
PF is your body
-> Fully focus on your body during sex

This is the body awareness im talking about

https://youtu.be/kjRb6HVLDZI

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

My last 2 encounters that went well, I honestly didn't have a single thought about cumming early. I was too busy enjoying her.

Yep, I was experiencing this also. Too busy enjoying her and didn't have a single thought about cumming. I didnt even think about the intercourse while having foreplay.

[Shikamaru Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Shikamaru]

Well first off , you were doing great in foreplay then you messed up by not taking it as an edging session. Only in certain cases should you unload the first load, to go longer in second round. But that doesnt help your problem. You need to take it as an edging session. Yes you can pleasure her at the same time your learning to control your ejac response during sex. For example, after foreplay when you put in, just sit there, ENjoy the sensations, feel it. You need to learn your arousal scale. THe difference between an 8, 9 , 9.5 , 9.9 where one more thrusts and you cum. This will help you last as long as you want. Even if you have to pull out every 3 seconds, its okay. Your learning to tell your BODY NO. I dont want to cum, i dont want to give in. YOu need to tame your body on not giving in! THis helped me at first when i was having sex with my ex -gf , where i learned i could actually have sex. so next time , take your time, if you feel like your about to cum , slow down or stop. IF you dont know when your about toc um, thats the main problem, YOu gotta learn your arousal scale. I know when im at a 8, 8.5 , 9 , 9.5 and, 9.9 where if i do any movement, i will busts. Also if you learn how to properly kegal, right before you cum , you can hold it back. THis is my technique so i dont cum. If i couldnt do this, i would cum within couple minutes sometimes. this takes a lot of practice during edging session by yourself and with your girl. Remmeber practice makes perfect. Use her as an edging session!

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

Are you saying, even after cumming, you cum right away the second, third and fourth time?

Yes, I did came 4 times in 5min.

[Anklepain Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Anklepain]

What about IK's? When I have problems with lasting long I usually realize I am in a one long IK which builds up tension in my PF very quickly and then PONR comes quickly.

I have reduced my IK's about 3 months ago with glans squuezing and frenulum stretching. I now have IK only when ejaculate.