Severe 20 seconds Pre E problem log

[Pegasus]

You are doing both kegel and rk practise .

It is not clear to me what % is kegel and what % rk ?

In your present position rk should dominate .

[upuratinario]

Day 13

- yesterday we had sex again. I entered her with my normal over sensitive problem. Then I relaxed a little, pulled out and in a few times very slow. Ejaculation was prepared as I felt how sperm was entering the base of the shaft. Then I stopped for 2 seconds and did a moderate-high RK. Like magic, everything went away. Felt something as I would describe as a minor orgasm, then I could have sex in a plateau state for over 25 minutes while her having multiple orgasms. I was a different man. Later that night, we had sex again ( she asked ) and as I was preparing to enter her paying attention to my sensitivity to prepare a huge RK, nothing happened. It was like a paralel universe where I never had Pre E. After 15 minutes of high trusting sex and different positions, I was feeling close to PONR, did like 4 RKS and it completely went away. I then continued for another half hour, we were both sweaty as hell, and she could barely walk afterwards. Stamina from edging played a big role I would think. So it was a stepping point in my progress, a notable one. A landmark if I can call it that.

- besides RK, I also started to take multi vitamins yesterday, as I lack a lot of them, white spots on my nails, stressed due to not enough magnesium, etc. So I don't know if that helped, but it's worth noting it for further use.

- today will continue with RK sessions and will try RK meditative breathing. It's a bit tricky due to my hernia and the pressure I create on my abdominal wall.

- having great sex boosted my self confidence my A LOT. This plays a huge factor and I no longer see my Pre E with fear, but something that I'm sure will go away very very soon. Having talked with my wife about it also helped a lot, especially her attitude towards this.

- the times I RK inside her, she would know it seems, as everytime she would make a face of "what is going on i feel smth different"

- overall happy because finally i can see some real progress in real life, not in edging.
Will update.

[upuratinario]

Day 14

- started the day with morning sex. After a little foreplay, I did a few RKs while putting on my condom, and as I entered her I no longer felt the urge to cum. Sex went great and she was the one to stop it as we were at it for 20 minutes or so and she had her orgasms, baby was getting up. So another successful encounter with PIV.

- will continue the day with yoga. Yesterday I experimented a little with RK while in the down hindi squat and it's a new level of PF expansion
- yesterday finally noticed that my pc muscle no longer gets contracted while I go up the stairs or walking faster in the yard. not as much at least
- anxiety went away since 2 days ago, but mostly because of the multi vitamins i think, was lacking a lot of them
- it's the third day since I am doing 7-11 belly breathing ( breath in for 7 seconds, breath out for 11, RK on breathing in ) and my parasympathetic nervous system is giving signs of kicking in at last, calming me
- minor signs of my diaphragm finally started to expand to allow more air, it is probably adapting to my new life style

im not cured yet as if I dont pay attention to PF tension and don't do my routines, I can almost feel how I will get back were I was 2 weeks ago.
have not done a single kegel routine the last week I think, will give it another week of RKS and then I will reincorporate them to keep my PF balanced, after I do some reading at least. Opinions regarding this would be appreciated.

[nofun]

Great to hear this! I am happy for you!

Did you do a Kegel & Reverse Kegel routine? I am getting better and better at RK's but I lost a lot of EQ it seems, so I began to add in more Kegels again.

[upuratinario]

I did say I haven't done any Kegel routine as I think I lack relaxation not tension at the moment. I plan to incorporate kegels slowly starting this weekend.

Day 15 ( yesterday )
-skipped yoga, life kept me a tad busy than usual so I didn't have any free time on my hands. However while driving, talking, doing any activity I would frequently try and do RK breathing for 2-3 minutes at a time. Started to do them lightly so I don't put pressure on my inguinal canal ( hernia still causes disconfort ).
- no edging no sex. Had a few boners, and since I was in my tight jeans, I would feel how IKs were happening while getting an erection. I combat it with RKs, but in my case erection loss is not immediate. If I do an RK while getting an erection, penis will first go into a balloon state, stay there a little and only then start to lose erection.

Day 16
- will continue with yoga, 7-11 breathing while doing hindi squats as it brings a while new level of PF expansion
- wet dreams appeared so I will also edge today and perhaps ejaculate
- will update throughout the day if something noticeable happens

[upuratinario]

Day 17

- even though I said I will do yoga yesterday, I didn't, which made the 2nd day in a row skipped. This lead today to a terrible edging session where I was getting to PONR in the first 5 minutes with mild strokes. I suspect that if I had sex today, it would of turned out not so good as the last time.
- today tried to isolate my RKs, as in to switch it between front RK and back RK, and experienced tremendous difficulties in doing so. I don't know why I can't isolate them so good, maybe I am still tense, maybe the back ( pc muscle ) is not so trained like the front ( BC ) or maybe i'm not pushing correctly. It's a little better when walking as I feel the expansion moving but when I stand still it's proven hard.
- tried to front RK when I was near PONR to again check if erection goes down. Even though penis is ballooning again, I still didn't feel my erection go down. Probably PF is still somewhat tense ?

Question for other experienced members:
- instead of using a tennis ball to do PF massage, would a massage wand have the same effect? Not talking about a vibrator wand, but those Relax & Tone things where they massage muscles. Or is the shape of the tennis ball the main deal here?

[bball33]

Great to hear this! I am happy for you!
Did you do a Kegel & Reverse Kegel routine? I am getting better and better at RK's but I lost a lot of EQ it seems, so I began to add in more Kegels again.

Same thing happened to me. I wasn't sure if it would go away on its own over time but was getting worse. If I would pull out I would start to lose my erection. I downloaded a kegal app on my phone, do it twice a day and focus on getting my PF back to a neutral state, not tight but not super lose where EQ suffers. I wonder if our bodies will with time adjust to looser PF and maintain good EQ if we give it time to adjust?

[bball33]

I cannot isolate then well either. I wasn't sure if it was good to massage the BC muscle either. I have asked this before and never got a clear response and the BC muscle response. I haven't did the tennis ball massage in a little bit but when I was I stopped doing it at the BC muscle

[redbloodme]

The pelvic floor does not work in isolation, but rather as a system with three other core muscles: the respiratory diaphragm, transversus abdominus and multifidus. To isolate the pelvic floor addresses only one-fourth of the problem, or only one of four muscles that are synergistic in action. Think of a straw in a cup of liquid that you plug the top of as it is pulled out of the liquid. When you release the top, the liquid comes out. Atmospheric pressure is what holds the liquid in the straw, not necessarily the plug at the bottom of the straw. According to the work of Paul Hodges, core activation must first involve the deep stabilizers including the pelvic floor, transversus abdominus, diaphragm and multifidus. It is the timing and sequencing of the muscles, not strength, that is needed

[redbloodme]

The pelvic floor is tight, not weak, in most individuals with dysfunction. Physical therapist Rhonda Kotarinos describes this phenomenon as a "short pelvic floor" in her work on treating abdominal wall separation, known as diastasis recti. Doing Kegels or tightening a muscle that is already in a maximally contracted position, only makes the muscle tighter. So many individuals with pelvic floor dysfunction have myofascial trigger points, or spasmotic muscles that refer pain to a remote location. Many individuals I treat have dysfunctional muscles and I recommend Reverse Kegels instead. This means focusing on diaphragm breathing on the inhale to lengthen the muscle. My motto is lengthen before you strengthen. Once the muscle has its normal range of motion and length-tension, then Kegels are prescribed. If doing Kegels makes the problem worse, the exercise is postponed until the pelvic floor and/or other structures that pull on the pelvic floor are returned to normal tension and trigger points are abated.