My Success and APT: Completing the puzzle

[wickedjoe]

Good to see you are getting improvements but just want to point out that I am in PPT all the time and yet I’m still on these forums. As many members have pointed out , different approaches work for people. I think the fundamentals are clear:
Relaxed PF and mind
Strong core and balanced muscles (no muscle imbalances)
Edging may help with managing arousal

Yeah I totally agree with you! Pelvic floor relaxation and muscle balance, you summed it up well. And improper posture has a big correlation with muscle imbalances.
I would still think it's easier to do RKs (and thus maintain relaxed PF) in PPT rather than in APT, regardless of what one's usual posture is. Would you say that applies to you as well? Of course I believe it's also possible for the PF to be too tight in PPT as well. Mine certainly used to be tight no matter which pelvic tilt. But even after learning to keep the PF relaxed, I still had to realize that it would only stay relaxed if I stayed in PPT, and it would tighten up again when moving into APT.
I guess that's my big revelation: pelvic tilt influences the difficulty of pelvic floor relaxation; easiest in PPT and gradually harder towards APT.
It's also possible that further work towards PF relaxation would also make it so that pelvic tilt doesn't influence tightness as much as it does to me now; as in one could manage to be relaxed in APT just as well. Can't say if that's the case at the moment. Time will tell!

[Pelvis]

Not sure if I can do the RK as it feels as if I’m about to pass wind or more when I do them😂
Yep stick with what’s working for you. I still am seeking what’ll help me 😉

[wickedjoe]

Yeah, find what works for you! Keep focusing on stretching and relaxing the pelvic floor until you can RK comfortably I'd say. Good luck!

[murad1]

When I edging everything is ok but when it comes to sex thrusting movement so pushing your stuff to vagina makes me cum quickly , is there any remedy for it;?

[ACPreE]

Edging and sex are not 1 to 1. You get way higher levels of arousal when you are having real sex. You also are in different positions then when edging. Read the stickies and you can get a better understanding of the complexity of PreE.

[Anthony_gerio]

I think following points can be helpful to some for their start of fighting with APT.
It worths to say that glutes are among the big muscles and training them everyday can actually put you in a plateau improvement. The best way to practice them is heavy training (depending on the person) and then consider at least 1 day rest and recovery or ideally 2 or 3 depending on your muscle recovery rate (muscle gain rules). Glutes are supposed to be one of the most strong muscles of the body, thus, heavy training with weights (if you can) is often recommended for them by coaches to see optimal results.
For abdomen training if you train light to medium light everyday, as they have a high recovery rate, 1 day rest per week can be enough, but again at start 1 day average to heavy training and 1 day rest can be a good approach.
For streching, everyday stretch is no harm. A point here is to not forget to add lower back streches as well as hip flexors and try to minimize hip extendors streches as much as it doesn't apply injury to hamsterings trainings.
Another important point is to do some focused training on piriformis muscles. it is the connector of glutes to PF. Some people (including me at start of my core training) may not put enough force on this muscle and glute medius is going to do all the work. You can see in youtube how to first stretch and then train this muscle isolated to be sure it also trains as well as your other part of the glutes.
Last point which helped me a lot is to not forget your hamstrings as they significantly contribute to your glutes stability.

[soon2bhuge]

wicked, I love your philosophical approach to PE (especially the confidence part) - thanks for this great post!

Have you seen the thread about the lajin stretch? It seems like a great stretch, wonder what your thoughts are about it!

[wickedjoe]

When I edging everything is ok but when it comes to sex thrusting movement so pushing your stuff to vagina makes me cum quickly , is there any remedy for it;?

I believe the sex positions you employ actually make a huge difference, and it's good to find the ones that allow you to stay comfortably in posterior pelvic tilt. Positions like missionary are definitely the worst as they encourage a lot of pelvic tilting back and forth, at least in my experience. What I seem to be having the most success with is a spoon position, where you can manage to keep your knees and hips bent allowing your body to effortlessly maintain posterior tilt. Do give that a try and see if it makes any difference!
As ACPreE also mentions, arousal tends to be higher during sex compared to edging, so it's not surprising that we last less. But do try to focus on your body and try to use it in the same way you do during edging (same positions, movements), and you might see improvements.

[wickedjoe]

wicked, I love your philosophical approach to PE (especially the confidence part) - thanks for this great post!

Have you seen the thread about the lajin stretch? It seems like a great stretch, wonder what your thoughts are about it!

I've just had a read about this lajin stretch, thanks for the suggestion! And thanks for reading my post
So it's basically a hamstring stretch, with the added bonus of hip flexor stretching on the other leg. Quite an excellent combination for our purposes I'd say! It also seems one can easily make it harder by sitting closer to the wall, making progressing the exercise very straightforward.
As I've written before, I do think stretching hamstrings and hip flexors are both key to improving PremE, and this stretch seems to work both, so all good points in my book.
Now I don't necessarily think this specific stretch is going to make a huge difference in results compared to other hamstring and hip flexors stretches. You'll probably see similar results no matter which stretch you choose to do, as long as you stretch at similar intensities for similar amounts of time.
Takeaway is always the same: Stretch on, dudes!

[Anthony_gerio]

I thought maybe adding something here is going to be very useful for people trying to fight APT (or other bad body postures like sway back etc.)
There is an important abdominal muscle called, Transverse Abdominal (TVA) layer. It stabilizes the core of your body as well as your pelvis. I got my mild APT quit better in a very fast time (maybe three weeks) by focusing on this muscle separate from other abdominal workouts (which commonly target the six packs muscles).
I am not sure it was here or somewhere else that a few months ago I was reading people are working on the muscles of their penis base, then they realized their pelvic area and dick are shaking. They claimed they are working on their IC muscles, while actually they have found their lower TVA. In any case working on that has given them great progress. I believe it really helped me to improve the curve on my spine faster than many. Read about how to train it.