Bad pe!

**Jay1983** · 03-23-2020

No dry. You don't want DE or ED. Balanced pelvic floor with sensitivity is key.

**dbcoop34** · 03-23-2020

Hello all,
Another update on my efforts... Continued stretching and working out today with RK's and some breathing exercises. I am proud to say I feel like my PF is already loosening up somewhat. The hindi squats are becoming easier and my overall flexibility is increasing but I still have alot more room to continue this. Tonight, I set aside time and began edging with lube. I did not use any porn and struggled to maintain a solid erection. I held a light RK the entire time. Any erection I would get would kind of fade but not go fully flaccid. What was weird thought is that even though I wasn't fully hard, I was still very sensitive on the glans and if I wanted to I could have reached the PONR without a completely hard erection. So I stopped, calmed down, and slowly worked up to a hard erection again and began inching my hand towards the glans. I stimulated the glans for only 30 seconds when I felt the PONR creeping up. I attempted to RK but felt as if the arousal and stimulation could not be controlled but at the same time I did not feel any IK's that could've caused the PONR to begin to creep up. This is confusing to me as I feel as if my PF is relaxed yet the PONR is so close. Please let me know what I should do from here. My routine will still continue as I am less than a week in on this.

**Anthony_gerio** · 03-23-2020

You are looking for improvement in a very quick time. I believe anyone who has cured his PE has gone through the stages you are going now. By reading your situation, I am sure you have a very tight PF. It matters that PF be relaxed, but more than that, it is important that it be elongated as well. We are talking about changing the formation of a muscle, it could take a few weeks for your case since the PF to get its initial stretch. A tight PF can cause ED as well.

My advice is to continue the routine (I have no idea what is yours, but do not suffice about 15 mins of RKs per day, do hindi squat with miduim to light continuous RKs whenever you have the time, in my case whenever I was working home from my own laptop, I used to sit in hindi position, still I keep doing them everyday).
Also, something that boosted my progress was taking into account RKs in very front of the PF area below the balls. It is easy to overlook that area as it is initially very hard to do the RKs there and for me it was even a bit painfull.
You have hit the initial stretch and when you do, while doing the RK, you actually feel your PF is filling like a ballon, from below your balls to a bit infront of your anus.
Do not fuss about edging at first, it could be disappointing at first. When your PF is elongated, you actually start to understand how to make them longer by relaxing or keeping a RK or etc. and in any case with an elongated relaxed PF it takes much much longer to reach PNOR even if you don't do anything. Nowadays, I just have in my mind to not kegel and do nothing else besides that, just when I want to ejaculated I start to tense PF.

It maybe a long way with some frustration in between, but it really worths it.

**dbcoop34** · 03-23-2020

Originally Posted by Anthony_gerio

You are looking for improvement in a very quick time. I believe anyone who has cured his PE has gone through the stages you are going now. By reading your situation, I am sure you have a very tight PF. It matters that PF be relaxed, but more than that, it is important that it be elongated as well. We are talking about changing the formation of a muscle, it could take a few weeks for your case since the PF to get its initial stretch. A tight PF can cause ED as well.

My advice is to continue the routine (I have no idea what is yours, but do not suffice about 15 mins of RKs per day, do hindi squat with miduim to light continuous RKs whenever you have the time, in my case whenever I was working home from my own laptop, I used to sit in hindi position, still I keep doing them everyday).
Also, something that boosted my progress was taking into account RKs in very front of the PF area below the balls. It is easy to overlook that area as it is initially very hard to do the RKs there and for me it was even a bit painfull.
You have hit the initial stretch and when you do, while doing the RK, you actually feel your PF is filling like a ballon, from below your balls to a bit infront of your anus.
Do not fuss about edging at first, it could be disappointing at first. When your PF is elongated, you actually start to understand how to make them longer by relaxing or keeping a RK or etc. and in any case with an elongated relaxed PF it takes much much longer to reach PNOR even if you don't do anything. Nowadays, I just have in my mind to not kegel and do nothing else besides that, just when I want to ejaculated I start to tense PF.

It maybe a long way with some frustration in between, but it really worths it.

I really appreciate your response. I will continue my efforts and focus hard on releasing this tension in my PF. I do find it very hard to locate the front RK so I know that will take time. In the mean time I will continue with the hindi squats in order to stretch my PF and actually make it possible to perform good RK's. I got this and I am not giving up. Ill be back with updates to all. I just finished reading Ace's entire log and am motivated to have an outcome like his.

**dbcoop34** · 03-24-2020

I have not posted my routine on here so I wanted to do so. This is now my everyday routine:
Hindi Squats 10 min 3 times a day
Lajin Stretch- once a day 10 min
Happy baby- once a day 10 min
RK's- 5 times a day 5 minutes each and whenever i think about them i do them
ab routine- focus on lower abs but just overall core in general
edge- once daily(minimum 20 mins, finish only every 3rd or 4th day)

i am making an effort to do these and have just started so I do not expect to see crazy results too fast. My PF definitely feels a tad looser but thats probably because I am so focused on beating this I am constantly making sure its stretched. I want to say it actually feels a tad bit sore because the muscles are behaving different than normal. Just now in the shower I attempted an edging session. It took me probably 4 minutes to achieve an erection with no porn but what was weird is that the second my erection formed, the PONR was right around the corner. My breathing was not out of whack and I didn't even feel any IK's at all. I made sure my PF was relaxed and somehow the PONR still crept up. I find this very weird. Going to continue my progression but am very confused on how that is possible.

**Jay1983** · 03-24-2020

A front RK is the movement that you do to make your urine stream more forceful.

Make sure that you are still doing some regular kegels.. you want to keep your pelvic floor strong, but flexible, which is where the RKs come in. Don't worry too much about PONR creeping up, within due time you'll have the PF flexibility to completely control when it creeps up, even with high arousal levels.

**dbcoop34** · 03-24-2020

Thank you. I should definitely work in some kegels because I feel like that will help me isolate the muscles. The stronger they get the more controlled they can be. I definitely think I may have over-stretched my PF because it is definitely a bit sore(in a good way though). Also, I am stuck inside due to COVID so I am trying very hard to tackle this issue. With this being said, I would like to thank those who have been responding to my posts because this is just the beginning of my journey and I certainly need good guidance. I have become very active on these forums because of my determination and free time. Definitely going to continue my routine and add kegels! Thanks again to all. I got this and am going to continue to strive to meet my goal.

**Pegasus** · 03-24-2020

Power to your efforts.

**CaptainBlack** · 03-24-2020

Stay safe & keep the good work <3

**Anthony_gerio** · 03-25-2020

You do PF training to increase the power of the muscle in a lot of your daily activities, while doing leg and ab working out, while peeing, defecating, even when you are getting out of bed. Pay attention to your pelvic floor the next time you are doing these activities. I believe (personal opinion) they are not really needed for a person with PE and if I was going back in time near a year ago I would have avoided them. It is ok to do a few at first to just know the muscles better, but putting them in your routine is going to be counter productive and slow your progress. Why overtrain a muscle which is anyway working out everyday by itself.