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  1. 01-26-2021 #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony_gerio View Post
    Rhomboids not rear delt (is that even a thing? never heard of )
    lol ...

    PYT also mentioned "mid-back" in conjunction with rear delt. Mid-back says Rhomboids to me too, but there's a whole complex of things happening there, including the traps and the lats sliding superficially over top of the Rhomboids, as well as a bunch of deeper bits like supraspinatus, teres major and minor, etc. The key is to the mid-back is to be able to stabilize the shoulder blades while mobilizing the shoulder joint. This means having neurological connection to the rhomboids (most folks' rhomboids are "locked long"), releasing excess residual tension in the pectoral (chest) complex, and freeing up the sliding surfaces between superficial and deeper layers.
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  2. 01-26-2021 #142
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbloodme View Post
    hi.do you think that split 180 front and side are harmful or not?
    Simply being able to do this isn't harmful. The question I would ask is, can you mobilize your hips while in this position. That is, can you activate your inner thighs? Can you activate your glutes? Can you tilt your pelvis back and forth? If yes, then congrats!
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  3. 4 Weeks Ago #143
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    can you explain it more?
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbloodme View Post
    can you explain it more?
    The 180 degree splits is a pretty extreme position to get into. If you can get into that position, it can be potentially bad if you are hypermobile without strength to stabilize. So, if you can just sort of slide into that position, but once you're there you can't contract your inner thighs (for example) or you can't tilt your pelvis back and forth using the musculature around the pelvis, then I would suggest working on strengthening those areas as opposed to spending time in the splits. Hypermobility without sufficient strength isn't the way to go.

    Make sense?
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  5. 4 Weeks Ago #145
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    The TVA comes up a few times in this thread. Wondering what your thoughts are on the pelvic floor working alongside the TVA. For example when I activate my core in things like planks often the pelvic floor eBay ages as well. This strikes me a natural for stabilizing the area but I’m also wondering if maybe my tva is just too weak to isolate and do it’s duty so it’s recruiting the pelvic floor to help. Interested in your view.
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    TVA contraction activates PF and visa versa. Honestly, it is a story that I am not convinced yet about the full mechanics there from whatever I have read up to now.
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  7. 4 Weeks Ago #147
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    Due to my job I meet with some great physiotherapists (also some other doctors) but physios are the ones related to here.
    (I am not a doctor, but I work in a project related to optimization of operations and scheduling in hospitals).

    This one person who I have had several discussions with, believes the main factor putting body out of balance in active population (not the sitting all day population) and are generally more complicated cases and create imbalance in both diaphragm and pelvis, is to foot. The heels, big toe and sole muscles. We are working on the root of my issue and he still believe it all had started from my heels and lack of both foot pronation and supination. I am starting to be convinced as working on those issues has improved many things further and my training on other imbalances upper in the body has mutually improved my heel and toe issues.
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  8. 4 Weeks Ago #148
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    I assume TVA == Transversus Abdominis? If so:

    Anthony_gerio is correct that activation of TVA naturally leads to activation of the pelvic floor. This is what is known in Hatha Yoga as Mulabandha (root lock). Sometimes it is taught aggressively, like kegels. Other times it is taught as a passive activation that results from hollowing out the abdomen on exhale (deep activation of TVA). This is totally natural and correct physiologically. I don't see any need to differentiate TVA activation from pelvic floor activation, understanding that TVA activation is deeper and more subtle than more superficial layers.

    The sole muscle thing is interesting to me. I'll have to get my Anatomy Trains book back out to study up a bit, but there are several fascial lines that run the entire body and include either a stirrup unter the sole of the foot or an anchor around the heel.
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  9. 4 Weeks Ago #149
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    The sole muscle thing is interesting to me. I'll have to get my Anatomy Trains book back out to study up a bit, but there are several fascial lines that run the entire body and include either a stirrup unter the sole of the foot or an anchor around the heel.
    Would be interesting to discuss
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    There's been some pics posted in the forum and different muscle imbalances in hips and lower back are in those postures.

    Interestingly they all have one thing in common, super weak Transverse Abdomens.
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