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    Hello guys i've got some great news for a lot of you , i've been lurking here for 2 years searching for solutions.I had ED/PE.It all started in a period of my life when i started masturbating daily sitting in front of a screen.So i had to search for some answers.Things got pretty confusing , i thought i had weak pelvic floor so i started doing some kegels and i got rid of ED but PE was getting worse , then i read about reverse kegels i implied them but i couldnt find my way to use them while having sex/edging efficiently(It was a cycle i would reverse kegel then EQ dropped and i wasnt even enjoying it ).Then about a year and a half ago i discovered a post on reddit of a man claiming IC muscle got rid of his sexual problems.I googled about it but very few posts came up on sites like pegym or ************* and none of them were enlighting as of giving insight on the IC flex or the benefits of it.So i gave up on it and thought that im dumb for searching these kind of things on the internet and the fact that I tried so hard to find a solution gave me the idea that this was the case.

    One week ago i returned to that miserable point of view or thats what i believed and searched again for that little dumb IC muscle and surprisingly i found a new post by dickerswarz or smth like that so i decided to give it a try and for 3-4 days i was trying to make the mind to muscle connection , it happened and i started working it out , not a real routine just some flexes till it gets tired.I forgot to mention that during that week i was in a nofap streak of 30 days ( i've done it many times in desperate situations cause i believe it was a backup plan in my head that maybe by doing nothing something will happen but i guess u just understood reading this that this view is dumb)
    Anyway after mind to muscle connection happened i continued working the IC muscle.So 8 days of doing that i decide that i have to try it while edging.First time i tried it and i couldnt even flex the muscle while erect and thats when i thought that something is going on here.I tried a second time lil bit better but same results , finally the third time i did it , i could flex the muscle while erect but it was so weak that nothing even moved i just feeled the tension in the sides of my pennis. Long story short after 5 sessions i could move my pennis and when that happened the EQ was way better , the erection angle was way higher and when i felt like tension is building up and my arousal levels are getting higher i could just flex that little muscle and everything went back on track without losing EQ.

    I know some of u will argue with me saying u havent tried it with a partner and blah blah blah..but from edging sessions lasting like 20-30 minutes longer with higher intensity while im getting stimulated by porn im pretty sure thats a positive SIGN on PremEjaculation.Im not a messiah that worked for me at least for now im just pretty happy about that and wanted to share the results cause i would like to see a post like this back then without losing time.If any of u try it just know that getting mind to muscle connection on IC is not that easy.Some guys say that by doing a light kegel u can feel the IC in the beggining , i made my first connection with the muscle by doing a reverse kegel followed by a real light pull focused on the area of the IC (both sides).So dont give up if u cant find the connection easily ,it's worth the try.Also i wanna thank the creators of the forum and moderators or whatever they are called for supporting us with their knowledge and experience!

  • #2
    Congrats on your improvement.

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    • #3
      Can you post the thread you read? Is it similar to this? (https://www.reddit.com/r/PIED/commen..._peed_and_low/).

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      • #4
        Its that , yes!

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        • #5
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          • #6
            Can you explain in mire detail how to find that muscle and how to flex it best? I’ve read that thread on reddit but unfortunately was not able to flex the muscle in a way to see any results.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Rounder View Post
              Can you explain in mire detail how to find that muscle and how to flex it best? I’ve read that thread on reddit but unfortunately was not able to flex the muscle in a way to see any results.
              Whats seems to work locating the muscle for me is following the below method. Note that I do it standing.
              "IC" muscle - localization / sense of the muscle:

              - "Turtle method" a turtle can stick its head out of the shell and hide it back again.
              Try to imagine the glans of the penis to be like the head of the turtle and try to pull it back into the pelvis (as the turtle puss its head back into the shell).

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              • #8
                Imagine pulling it inside very gently , without using force otherwise it will be accompanied by pc/bc .First connection felt to me like a tingling on the IC muscle area both left and right , after a few times u can do it with more force.Just dont give up , its not easy.

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                • #9
                  If you want to "download the chip" on ic then this thread is what you need .

                  https://www.pegym.com/forums/penile-...s-power-3.html

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                  • #10
                    I can pull it inside but I noticed that I’m flexing my butt checks in the process and a tiny flex in pc muscle. Should all muscles in the pelvic floor and butt checks be relaxed completely? You are isolating the IC muscle completely? Not even a little flex in pc muscle?

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                    • #11
                      What pegasus posted is on point! Try doing it so lightly that nothing else moves or at least it moves the least u can

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                      • #12
                        Thanks wipeer and Pegasus. I read what Pegasus posted and I’m gonna try this

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                        • #13
                          Good Stuff!
                          Originally posted by wipeeer View Post
                          One week ago i returned to that miserable point of view or thats what i believed and searched again for that little dumb IC muscle and surprisingly i found a new post by dickerswarz or smth like that so i decided to give it a try and for 3-4 days i was trying to make the mind to muscle connection , it happened and i started working it out , not a real routine just some flexes till it gets tired.
                          Dicker Schwanz, german for FATDICK :P
                          And it can get tired fast the first times. If that happens its important to not get annoyed but to try again next day. The connection "grows" overnight.
                          You did good! I gave up the first time I tried to get the IC going and only got it after revisiting a year later.

                          Originally posted by wipeeer View Post
                          If any of u try it just know that getting mind to muscle connection on IC is not that easy.Some guys say that by doing a light kegel u can feel the IC in the beggining , i made my first connection with the muscle by doing a reverse kegel followed by a real light pull focused on the area of the IC (both sides).So dont give up if u cant find the connection easily ,it's worth the try.Also i wanna thank the creators of the forum and moderators or whatever they are called for supporting us with their knowledge and experience!
                          Much better to use the Reverse Kegel access to get there cause while a broad "pc kegel" will engage it too, its the wrong way to get control over it.
                          (cause when you fully engage the IC muscles the other muscles cant be fully engaged and vice versa, its a bit like doing biceps and triceps curls same time)



                          Originally posted by Rounder View Post
                          I can pull it inside but I noticed that I’m flexing my butt checks in the process and a tiny flex in pc muscle. Should all muscles in the pelvic floor and butt checks be relaxed completely? You are isolating the IC muscle completely? Not even a little flex in pc muscle?
                          If you do a very intense IC flex the butt can open up similar to a full pelvic floor reverse kegel.
                          I think you`re still doing a kegel cause a normal kegel can "pull it in" too. But it will feel different.

                          Another hint to get the Mind-Body connection is to imagine a See-Saw inside your PF. With the leverage middle point inbetween pubic bone and anus.
                          The area where the IC is will go up while the butt area will go down. (sitting)
                          In my mind it appears like two "tuning forks" being the seats of the See-Saw, the two "legs" of the IC muscles(pulled up and together) and one the other side the left and right cheek bones(being pulled down). Which is rather accurate cause inside the two IC legs are anchored to the ischial tuberosity(basically cheek bones) so one can feel an actual pull there.
                          25cm! Let's go!

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                          • #14
                            What was the best position to do this for you guys? Standing, sitting, or other? Should the flex of the two lateral muscles be inside the pelvic area or just where the penis is coming out of the pelvis area(base of the penis) ? You said that the butt area just go down. You mean as it should be relaxed?

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                            • #15
                              I was more comfortable sitting , try to hold a reverse kegel both front and rear and flex ur IC . i actually feel both of the lateral muscles but also something in the middle where shafts begins.

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