Everyman’s PreE Routine & Log

**Everyman** · 12-02-2020

Is there any way to know if my RK is strong enough? Any benchmark of sort - other than the ubiquitous 'strength to cancel out IKs'?

Day 22

Did Hindi squat : 15min x 3 + 10min + 5min = 1 hour total.
Child pose : 15min
Frog pose : x
Pigeon pose : 5min
Happy Baby pose : 5min x 2 = 10min
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So Total PF stretching : 1hr 30min (with deep breathing plus RK)
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Did a few stretches. Had to drop some due to foot pain.

Didn't do tennis ball sitting.

Did Glutes and lower body workout. Skipped a few.

Did 100 full RKs and 50 front & 50 back RKs (short ones).

Also did (or at least tried to do) all day RK as many, as long and as often as I could manage to do/remember. Felt tough. Did I forget how to RK? LOL.

And what about the question I posed at the beginning of this post? Please do answer. I need suggestions. A lot of them. I think my RKs are wearing out fast. The more I'm doing them the more they are eluding me. Hmmm... something seriously funny!

Didn't have time to edge. So no erect RK either. Thank God! Didn't have to bore you with the same stale story of IKs. LOL.

See you in the next post. Thank you. Take care.

**Anthony_gerio** · 12-02-2020

RKs just stretch the PF. Doesn't matter how powerful they are, assume that you have weak bicep, if you stretch it you have stretched a weak bicep. If you have a powerful bicep and stretch it, you have stretched a powerful bicep, so it is really stretching a muscle. Now, the weak PF contracts a lot to do the job and a powerful PF contracts less to do the same job, thus those RKs can help if the PF is developed. That's why I always put stress on focusing to develop the PF which is strongly correlated to developing the muscles around.

You need to prioritize your body workout as well to gain the muscle balance. You said you have tight TFL and ITband. Are your knees more like knotted or bowed?

**forthebest** · 12-03-2020

Originally Posted by Everyman

Thanks for your encouraging words.

You're right about edging and consistency. They are important - I understand that. But what I'm doing now in the name of edging is far from what a true edging should be. I just balloon my most sensitive spots and try to counter IKs. All my attention goes to feeling IKs and pushing RKs while I try to hide from PONR. If I go on edging this way, I think I'll be learning DO on my death bed. LOL.

On a serious note, I'm not going to stop edging anyway. But this IK thing drives me wild every time I even think about it. The sad part is that I can relax my PF with or without RK but I can't stop IKs with my RK during stimulation.

I've read your complete log and keep visiting it regularly. It has been very inspiring for me, I must admit. Recently you've made quite a progress with your hand-fleshlight combo. Congrats!

One question : how do you cancel IKs with RK without stopping stimulation? Any suggestion?

Thank you. Keep it up. Keep in touch. Take care.

No problem, I think everybody here are for the same reasons, and had the some frustration...
Haha don't worry my edging is no true edging either, it's like holding the tail of a lion ! But it will pay off. For the IKs I think you just have to get used to it and as you edge you will be able to eliminate them as you go along, you just have to stick with it. So many times i would edge and not get anyway and then just get frustrated and say fuck it i'm just going to do stretches etc and hope it works out... but it won't, tried that and it doesn't work. maybe it will work with the core, glutes and posture trainning, but you still have to train it with edging, as Pegasus often uses as an example about boxers need to train in the gym and in fighting to be at the top of their game during the real match.

For the RKs to cancel IK have a look into the Victorious Breath - Breathing Techniques it helped me do a RK better because i had the impression that the air would slide down my back and fill my PF and then i would do a peeing movement to push the air forward (this is where i think core, glute and posture exercises helps to be able to control the breath of air to push forward).

Here's a link to the video that helped me : https://youtu.be/kDlyS3AVFcs

I'll try and incorperate the link here but i don't know if it will work lol

In any case good luck !

**Everyman** · 12-04-2020

Originally Posted by Anthony_gerio

RKs just stretch the PF. Doesn't matter how powerful they are, assume that you have weak bicep, if you stretch it you have stretched a weak bicep. If you have a powerful bicep and stretch it, you have stretched a powerful bicep, so it is really stretching a muscle. Now, the weak PF contracts a lot to do the job and a powerful PF contracts less to do the same job, thus those RKs can help if the PF is developed. That's why I always put stress on focusing to develop the PF which is strongly correlated to developing the muscles around.

You need to prioritize your body workout as well to gain the muscle balance. You said you have tight TFL and ITband. Are your knees more like knotted or bowed?

You've again hit the bull's eye about my 'knee'.

Just found that I've knock knees. Very slight though. I checked, double checked and triple checked. It's definitely there. So what to do with this knock knee thing. I think a new set of exercises is going to find its way into my routine.

Wish I were a decade younger. LOL.

Sorry for being late to reply.

Thank you for your continued attention. Expecting further advice. Take care.

**Everyman** · 12-05-2020

Originally Posted by forthebest

No problem, I think everybody here are for the same reasons, and had the some frustration...
Haha don't worry my edging is no true edging either, it's like holding the tail of a lion ! But it will pay off. For the IKs I think you just have to get used to it and as you edge you will be able to eliminate them as you go along, you just have to stick with it. So many times i would edge and not get anyway and then just get frustrated and say fuck it i'm just going to do stretches etc and hope it works out... but it won't, tried that and it doesn't work. maybe it will work with the core, glutes and posture trainning, but you still have to train it with edging, as Pegasus often uses as an example about boxers need to train in the gym and in fighting to be at the top of their game during the real match.

For the RKs to cancel IK have a look into the Victorious Breath - Breathing Techniques it helped me do a RK better because i had the impression that the air would slide down my back and fill my PF and then i would do a peeing movement to push the air forward (this is where i think core, glute and posture exercises helps to be able to control the breath of air to push forward).

Here's a link to the video that helped me : https://youtu.be/kDlyS3AVFcs

Ujjayi Pranayama doing a tango with Reverse Kegel - this seems to be a fantastic concept. How did you get that idea? I'll definitely give it a try. I'm sure it's going to be a nostalgic re-learning curve for me.

I can't thank you enough for your encouraging words and for your idea of Victorious Breath (and also the link).

Also thank you for sharing how you use RK-breath combo to cancel IKs. I also use similar style of RK during edging though I don't use Victorious Breath - just Deep Belly breathing.

Hope this Ujjayi Pranayama would make my RK victorious over IKs.

One question : do you rely solely on front RK? What about back RK and full PF RK? Do you ever use them in edging?

Thank you once again. Keep in touch. Take care.

**Everyman** · 12-05-2020

Day 23 (Day before Yesterday)

Did Hindi squat : 10min x 5 = 50 min total.
Child pose : 15min
Frog pose : 10min
Pigeon pose : x
Happy Baby pose : 5min x 2 = 10min
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So Total PF stretching : 1hr 25min (with deep breathing plus RK)
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Did all stretches.

Didn't do tennis ball sitting.

Did ABS and back workout. Skipped some.

Did 50 full RKs and 50 front & 50 back RKs (short ones).

Also did (or at least tried to do) all day RK as many, as long and as often as I could manage to do/remember. Felt tough. Not bad.

Edged for 30min. Mostly did erect RKs. Nothing promising to report.

Thank you. Take care

**Everyman** · 12-05-2020

Day 24 (Yesterday)

Down with fever. Had to skip all stretches and exercises.

Just did RKs. Routine RK and all day RK both.

No edging. No erect RK.

Thank you. Take care

**Everyman** · 12-05-2020

Fever in control. So back to workout.

Day 25

Did Hindi squat : 10min x 6 = 1 hour total.
Child pose : x
Frog pose : 10min
Pigeon pose : x
Happy Baby pose : 5min
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So Total PF stretching : 1hr 15min (with deep breathing plus RK)
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Did stretches. Skipped a few.

Didn't do tennis ball sitting.

Did Glutes and lower body workout. Went quite good.

Did 100 full RKs and 50 front & 50 back RKs (short ones).

Also did (or at least tried to do) all day RK as many, as long and as often as I could manage to do/remember. Not very effective. Kept forgetting.

Edged for 1 hour. Also did some erect RKs. No improvement. Felt lack of concentration. Just went for pleasuring myself. No edging proper. Just let myself go into feeling the pleasure. Didn't try to control anything. Just stopped every few seconds. And it felt damn good - that's for sure.

Found a lot of deficiencies in my mind and body. Need to do some thinking over them.

Hey Mr. IK I ain't gonna curse you today. We'll fight it out tomorrow.

Finally I didn't ejaculate. I hate orgasm. I have ejaculation. They are like blessed curse.

Wishing a lovelier sunrise tomorrow. Thank you. Take care.

**Anthony_gerio** · 12-05-2020

See if you really have knocked knees. Do a good research on what causes it and prioritize the training related to that (I know posterior tibialis weakness and anterior tibialis tightness is the primary cause but also you need to work on the hip stuff as well).
I am good at dealing with bowed knees, exactly the opposite unfortunately only.

If you actually have knocked knees, working on it is top top priority and highly probable the cure.

**Everyman** · 12-06-2020

Originally Posted by Anthony_gerio

See if you really have knocked knees. Do a good research on what causes it and prioritize the training related to that (I know posterior tibialis weakness and anterior tibialis tightness is the primary cause but also you need to work on the hip stuff as well).
I am good at dealing with bowed knees, exactly the opposite unfortunately only.

If you actually have knocked knees, working on it is top top priority and highly probable the cure.

My bad luck that I could not get your complete guidance in this knock knee thing. But what you suggested about hip and posterior and anterior tibialis is quite enough to get me started. I'll definitely start further research ASAP.

My knees are not knocked too much and is not discernible at a glance. But it is definitely there. So it need to be addressed.

Thank you very much for your advice.

And yes, I'm surely going to make knocked knees my top priority from now on.

Thank you. Keep in touch. Take care.