Journal of pre E.

[Benny]

Im 33 now and this continues to be a problem in my life. I see that people on here are finding solutions to the problem, and I know that with determination most all problems can be overcome, thats been proven time and time again within the history of mankind. I find my self working to a solution with no results and beginning to lose hope, I have to clear my mind and decide to keep moving forward, literally ignore the voices. This problem has caused me to shy away from relationships and women and its starting to become painful. Im fit, athletic, pursuing a degree in the medical field, good looking, people like me, and I look like the prototypical mans man however I would like to have the ability to please a women.

These are the steps i'm taking to finally overcome this obstacle.

1) I take magnesium. I actually have noticed a calm from it.
2) 10 minutes a day to meditate.
- Ive noticed during edging that I can change the way I think and I get results. ie. when i'm in the lust mindset I reach PONR quickly when im in a mindset that I can only explain as being more dominant I can last as long as I want. Therefore Im concluding that a lack of control over my mental stimulation is a part of the problem. The key I think is to stop concerning my self over it completely, to stop concerning myself with what the women thinks of me and accept it for what it is. Honestly i've slept with multiple women who didn't mind at all and still wanted to continue to spend time with me. Ive also noticed that our penis isn't the only thing a beautiful women is attracted to, in fact women seem to be attracted to a mans ability to stay centered which is a much more rare quality than sexual prowess, however they may come hand in hand. I struggle with anxiety as well so the meditation helps with this also.
3) I have a stretching routine I do daily. Hindi squat, wall V's, quad stretches, lower back stretches, hip flexor stretches, toe touches.
4) Reverse keagels. Ive been doing RK's for about 6 months and I can hold them for a good while now. I try to hold a light RK throughout the day.
5) Lifting routine, this is easy as I do it anyways but im going to put a little more focus on glute muscles, abs and legs in general. I don't have anterior pelvic tilt that I can see but Im curious if working on this will help.
6) ive used porn in the past to try to desensitize and I even go to the point where I was able to completely control when I reached PONR while watching porn, this tells me that IT IS POSSIBLE, at one time I couldn't last longer than 10 seconds. However I recently quit watching porn and consistent masturbation all together...I do edge from time to time because sometimes I need to. But I believe seaman has a lot of life force, when im retaining my seaman I find my self being more aggressive, talking to more women, etc. Overall I want to be good at sex, not edging so my goal is to find women to get over this with. I think with genuinity, and honesty chicks are pretty understanding and will want to help, especially if you aren't selfish and use your fingers or mouth to finish them.
7) I also do have numbing products that Ill use as a crutch until im comfortable.
8) I also roll out with a tennis ball.

I think the biggest key to my success is consistency and breaking out of my shell of meeting and sleeping with women. Not using masterbation as a gauge to my success but actual encounters with women. let me know if y'all have any suggestions to my routine.

[Everyman]

As you've got your mindset right, half your battle is already won.

In my opinion solving PreE is all about keeping your PF relaxed whether you're sleeping or pounding. Your RK planning is good. Add to it deep belly breathing. Crunch, squat and stretch your way to success. But don't throw edging out as yet. Wait till you resolve you issue. And be consistent with your routine and log it regularly. These are important.

I'm also a PreE sufferer who started his journey only a few days ago. So I've really no right to advise you any further. Consider this as a co-fighter's encouragement rather than lame advice.

Thanks. Take care.

[Benny]

Thank you man I appreciate the kind words.

So quick question for everyone. It seems like this problem can stem from many different places, many of them having to do with the body posture and muscle mechanics. When I think of my early years (I have this problem as long as I can remember) I know I did a lot of skateboarding and snowboarding and I had some injuries to my back, and heavy spills in the process. I also have bowed legs. Does anyone have a way of nailing down where the problem stems from?

ive noticed that when I use a tennis ball and roll out the Pf I have control. Ive been holding Rks for months now and I haven't had a lot of success, Ive gotten to the point where I can control Ik's (but that hasn't solved the issue). It seems like Rk's aren't attacking the problem muscle. I can feel a muscle in my shaft that feels tight, and overly responsive I just learned that if I suck in my stomach a bit and push out like i'm doing an IK and it feels like it may be the ischiocavernous muscle that I'm flexing at this point and I think this muscle may be a key the problem because it feels really close to the muscle that spasms while aroused.

My leg routine is squats ( usually pretty heavy routines 275*5)
Deadlifts (225*10)
Then i'll do quad curl machine and hamstring curl machine.
As there any other leg workouts you guys would suggest?

[Benny]

I was thinking last night after reading through some of the stickys in the forums. It was mentioned that the idea is to take back control of your PF (the comparison that we cannot control our heartbeat, but we can control the muscles of pf). i'm the type of person that believes everything has a root cause by way of your operating system ie. thought processes. If thats the case then a lack of control is a manifestation of a lack of control in your thoughts. I realized that I've struggled with depression and anxiety most my life; and it made me realize that a lack of control in my emotions could result in a lack of control in other parts of the body system. Anxiety and depression also go hand in hand with PE. With that it made sense to me that taking back control of every aspect of the mind is pivotal in solving this issue. I think this is talked about on the forums so i'm just repeating it in my own way I guess.

With these theories im starting to pay attention to my thoughts and emotions and taking a whole approach that just doesn't change my sex life, but everything in it. Im using meditation, and exploring presence of mind theories (Eckhart toll,etc.) Also heavy acceptance of the goods and bads, and disconnecting from the physical stimulus of the day, its pretty clear that our brains have degree of plasticity which means that we can change the neurochemistry's of our brains purely through changing the dominating thoughts and perceptions of the world.

I also went ahead and purchased a STU.

Time to lord over the demons and become a master.

[Benny]

I also think that there are ways to force your mind and body to comply with your demands. It seems like a state of certainty can produce change within the body very quickly. there are times when i've edged and I kinda rallied myself up, I just made my mind believe that I was a fucking God in bed, and I do this by yelling; cursing, and pounding my chest ( I know this shit sounds crazy) but basically I prime my mind to the fact that I can overcome anything, that i'm a fucking God, whatever you gotta to do to believe it, then I go in to an edging session and its like a whole different person. The key is that you have to do it until your brain believes it, then it drops the neurochemicals desired. unfortunately this isn't how my brain is wired on a regular basis, normally i'm docile and shy and not confident, anxiety riddled. So im trying to change the way my brain thinks, to completely overhaul my psychology to believe that i'm the fucking man, that I can have any women I want and that I am able to overcome any challenge. It would be interesting to see if anyone has results with this, I usually use YouTube videos to amp myself up. People like David goggins, and greg plitt do the trick. I don't think its useful as a one time thing though I think its an attitude you need to completely embody.

[Everyman]

In your very first post I sensed some kind of eerie familiarity - I didn't know why. But your last two posts made things clear to me. I can easily relate to those mindsets/attitudes you described there. I really lived those kind of mindsets - especially the latter one - during my teenage and youth. I can still feel those poundings on my chest. I won't bore you with my life accounts. I used those mindsets in my studies and career. Trust me it really works. But I never used it in my sexual life because I never took sex seriously - at least until recently.

But let me tell you one thing. Those two approaches - there is a subtle difference. To cut the long story short, let me give you an analogy. The former one is like relaxing the PF by mind. The latter one is like relaxing the PF by hard RK.

Thank you. Take care.

[Benny]

Yea man with YouTube you can watch some of those motivational videos and it's like mental speed, shit will amp you up. I love the feeling.

I get what you're saying. I want to attack this problem from every angle possible. Part of it is physical, part is mental. I kinda think that PE is most likely a combination of issues that result in a side effect of PE so the key is attacking as many as you can, then reducing down to the ones that provide the best results.


just from paying attention to how my body responds to small movements. I notice IK's when I'm unaroused and a pulling feeling on the shaft on the top side of my penis. Ive begun to master the feeling of stretching the IC muscles as well as doing an RK. Ive noticed I can be in RK and can't control IK's, but controlling the IC makes me able to control it.

I used my STU for my first edging session the other day, it was my first use and I was curious about how I would respond with promnescent, so with the help I was able to control PONR relatively easily kinda backing off and slowing down when my arousal would get to a 6 or 7. I lasted for about 10 minutes. I would like to attempt again but use no help, after a stretch and tennis ball roll. I feel like the Promniscent didn't do anything, but the stretches and tennis ball definitely do help.

[Benny]

After stretching and using a tennis ball on my PF for about 5 minutes I went into an edging session with the STU. No help minus the stretching.

After this session I’m 100% convinced this is treatable. What I noticed was the IK’s are the reason you reach orgasm. So control IK’s and you can control orgasm. (I know this has been said here).

So my plan is to use RKs and IC flexor exercises throughout the day. I basically try to hold them all day. The IC requires you kinda suck the bottom of your stomach in a bit, when you do it you’ll feel you your penis move up a bit, the muscles are on the sides...for me these seem to have the greatest Effect for control.

Then for edging I’ll use my STU and use it VERY slow until all IKs are trained out at the snail pace (gotta wall before you can run) then when I reach that point I will increase pace.

I’ve already trained IKs out while I urinate so if that’s possible, then this is possible as well!

My goal is to get to a point where I can fuck for 7 minutes (not STU) . When I reach that I’ll increase it. But 7 minutes would be a huge improvement from 2 pump chump!

[Benny]

completed another session
Here are the observations

I first did some tennis ball work for about 5 minutes. Beginning I had ik's like crazy. So in order to iron out the IK's I moved at a snail pace. The moment I felt IK I would STOP, and let it calm back down. Eventually I got to the point where I could tell an ik was about to initiate, so I would stop then and let that calm down before the ik occurred. It took about 30 minutes of this before I could actually get a full stroke without IK and it took some patience. I had a couple moments where I gave in to the pleasure of it and started to move for pleasure and then I had to stop and restart from the beginning. This seems to be about mental discipline more than anything. I think it's easier to program your body when you first begin to masterbate, so if you rush the process during that time, thats what you teach your body to do, now we need to unlearn all these habits.

Moving forward there are two things I will implement.

1) Edging is for training, not for pleasure. Its to re-train your bad habits. The purpose is to train out all of the IK's; until i've mastered the snail pace I do not proceed to a higher level.

Level 1 - Snail pace STU
Level 2- moderate pace, with oscillating pace STU
Level 3 - complete control no visual/auditory stimulation STU
Level 4 - Levels 1-3 with no prior stretching or tennis ball work.
Level 5 - Control with stim. STU
Level 6 - control with slowing and starting SEX
Level 7 - Complete control. SEX

2) A dedicated time limit spent. most likely 20-30 minutes.

of course stretches and RKs always.

I reached orgasm at the end of the session. I haven't decided if thats something I should continue or if I should hold of on reaching orgasm on my sessions. I don't know the benefit of it yet. Any suggestions?

[Benny]

Nov 24

20 minute time limit
STU
Stretching before, tennis ball work 2-3 hours prior, Light Rk hold throughout the Day, Ic holds as well

observation

An ik has 2 phases.
In body physiology an ik would be considered a "twitch" the definition of a muscle twitch is one action potential resulting in one contraction, an Ik. When you apply multiple action potentials it becomes whats known as summation. The summation results in a higher force of contraction than the muscle twitch.
An Ik is like a 1/4 turned water faucet where the summation is suddenly blasting the damn thing.
Summation results in ejaculation.

The first phase is the initial IK; this is harder to control
The second phase is easier to control. The point after IK you have the option to continue to IK leading to ejaculation or calm it down and continuing on the plateu.
If you were anything like me and ate your halloween candy the same night, then the chances are you chased that feeling of orgasm the first time you discovered masturbation causing a habit of deciding to go straight for the kill. Eventually it solidifies, no wonder it seems so hard to beat after you've been doing it for 33 years. What other bad habits do I have that have been ruining my life?

Edging session started slow, but as my it's came I beat them by instantly calming back down. Slow smooth movements. By the end of 20 minutes I was moving at a moderate pace that was slow and consistent and maintained a 4-5 arousal level. No reaching orgasm. Theres to much evidence behind holding you cum.

Premature ejaculation is not a condition, it's a choice.