Mental stimulation as 90% of the problem?

**2young4this** · 11-22-2020

Hey everyone,

context: 25 yo, fit, popular with girls, no longer struggling with anxiety thanks to psychotherapy and no longer struggling with pelvic tension thanks to physical therapy.

HOWEVER, guys, I would like to start a discussion about horny, sexual thoughts. I no longer suffer from IKs induced PE, but I still have it. PONR gets me out of nowhere always when I think I am good, then suddenly, there is no coming back and I strongly believe it is because of my fetishization of promiscuous women (sl*ts, who*es, etc.)

My PONR always comes in the first moment of realization that the girl is enjoying herself - does or says something submissive, looks me passionately in the eyes during doggy or bj, etc. When I watch porn, I tend to want to look at really really slutty scenes in which girls are ENJOYING doing very dirty things. (no peeing or feces, etc.) I do not want to explicitely say it but basically the more submissive and dirty the girl enjoys being, the more is my mind stimulated and I just cant take how these young teen girls can get off from being so extremely submissive.

Today I was edging to a absolutely gorgeous tik tok, top 1% only fans influencer leaked videos online. I resisted PONR even though it was hard but googled her age just out of curiosity afterwards with my penis already at like only 80% erection. The moment I saw that she was just 18 yo I instantly came. Just from the realization of how much of a wh*re she is. Disclaimer: I do not find undeveloped girls sexually attractive at all, however when a grown woman this young is already such a sl*t it boils my blood).

GUYS, I am a nice guy longing for love and romance but I also lust for very hardcore dominant sex with submissive girls and the thoughts of girls actually wanting to be dominated this much are TOO MUCH for me to handle.

AM I ALONE IN THIS?

WILL HARDCORE NOFAP CURE ME OF MY “UNNATURAL” DESIRES?

ARE YOU GUYS EXPERIENCING SIMILAR PROBLEMS?

I really feel sick, I wish I could just find a normal, super nice girl with whom I could have romantic slow missionary sex full of love.
But I also long for a girl that will WANT to s*ck me off on command, etc. however I CANT handle them at all.

I really really hope I am not alone in this and someone older who has gotten through something like this can help.

What are your guys stories about overcoming longing for unusually hard mental stimulation and not being able to handle it?

I did nofap for a maximum of circa 30-40 days but the thoughts and desires never really went away, conscious or subconscious.

(Should anything in this be too explicit and against forum guidelines, please edit it so that it is not. Much love.)

**Pegasus** · 11-22-2020

So if arousal is an issue start work with the help of the threads in the muust read stickies .

Not a fan of Nofap but I would quit porn.

**Anthony_gerio** · 11-23-2020

Your body is not able to handle the arousing thoughts, doesn't matter how fit you are, maybe you are not well developed where needed. Your body can tolerate 10 but you give it 20 (no scale just random numbers), so either reduce the arousing stimulations you give or develop the body to be able to handle more. Or try calming down techniques and shit like that to make the sex a non-enjoyable hard task instead of something which you looking forward to (sarcasm).

**2young4this** · 11-23-2020

Originally Posted by Anthony_gerio

Your body is not able to handle the arousing thoughts, doesn't matter how fit you are, maybe you are not well developed where needed. Your body can tolerate 10 but you give it 20 (no scale just random numbers), so either reduce the arousing stimulations you give or develop the body to be able to handle more. Or try calming down techniques and shit like that to make the sex a non-enjoyable hard task instead of something which you looking forward to (sarcasm).

Hey Anthony! Please, please reply again.

thank you very much! Can you elaborate or give as much resources on this as possible? ((I could not resonate with your sarcastic point more, gonna just think of my granny while hitting it from the back haha))

It is true that I am not as fit as I would like. The physical therapy I am doing is adressing the PF tightness through strengthening my glute muscles and my core, mainly deep abdominal muscles, I also struggle with moderate to severe knee pain that disables me from running, etc. and also have big scapular winging, postural problems and constant rib joint displacements due to this. However my prescribed workout plans are working and I believe I can finally solve these isuess within circa 3 months. (I am kinda skinny and weak overall but no sissy).

I do not do any stretching as I am hypermobile and can already do full splits, legs behind head and all that from birth. I also can not lift heavy anymore for now because my rib joint pops out due to the scapular weakness.

Do you think that core muscle weakness is what prohibits me from handling “20”, like you say? What makes you believe so? I handle softcore sex alright but heavier stimulus is too much.

I of course read the stickies and am able to relax and breath, concentrate and all that shit, it heavily helped with anxieties. However it still seems almost like I am just not being able to handle what seems naturaly appealing to me. (Even when I edge and breathe and relax, more hardcore pace, thoughts or audio/video is too much even out of the “primal trance” state).

I just felt like I hit a plateau but maybe it is still a muscle issue.

It really seems almost metaphorically equivalent to longing and wanting to run, while only having legs strong enough to walk in a faster pace.

For anyone interested in very beneficial exercises for glute&core weakness related PF tension: do booty band exercises and ‘modified bird dog’ exercises while focusing on proper ab bracing. All explained on YT channel: Dr. Alex Ritza, a very smart young chiropractor who has a lot to say about the human body.

Thanks to all. AND SORRY FOR A LONG POST. Peace.

Promise to write back.

**Anthony_gerio** · 11-24-2020

I am not sure I know enough about your conditions as it is quit different with stuff I have studied and experiment.
Maybe the stuff is actually in your head (one of the rare cases).
Also consider as much as tight flexors and adductors are harmful, if they are weak, they create some problems. However, if they are weak, normally body doesn't let them to extend in order to keep them safe. There can be a very high number of underlying problems creating physical problems for you.