My PreE is 100% Physical. However, Still Need Some Help

[skyisthelimitpe]

I suggest you look up the difference between an exercise physio and a personal trainer particuarly in regard to education .

Yup just did. That clarified some things. I think for now I’m sticking with my personal trainer since I’ve seen serious improvement and will incorporate some of the things I’ve heard here as well.

[skyisthelimitpe]

Just want to update everyone on today. After my workout, felt great down there but after standing in the store I felt that tight sore feeling near my anus. Very weird.

Went and got a blowjob shortly after and lasted for as long as I wanted. Didn’t relieve the golf ball feeling in my ass. It’s very weird. When I sit for a while this feeling goes away.

Anyways, got another blowjob after and lasted as long as I wanted. Had to face fuck to cum. But more importantly, I’ve learned that keeping my pelvis neutral has removed that golf ball feeling.

So I’m not sure what’s going on. Engaging my core during my workouts works great for my preE but after standing for a bit it causes that golfball feeling. However, seems as though that standing with my pelvis neutral solves this problem. Going to continue trying to make my pelvis as neutral as possible and will update

[skyisthelimitpe]

Guess I’m going to turn this into a bit of a log. But anyways, today I went back to goblet squats with a new approach. I focused on tucking my pelvis at the top and engaging my core. I also make sure I pushed out my knees when I went down at the bottom of the squat. As Anthony told me, this would work my glutes and inner thighs.

Wow! I got an insane burn in my glutes and inner thighs when I did this. And by tucking my pelvis, I avoided all back pain as well. Part of my workout was also some Swiss ball glute ham raises where I really engaged my core and also felt the burn in both the hammies and glutes.

After the workout, my pelvis felt naturally neutral and I have also made sure to force it neutral. No golf ball feeling at all! I feel amazing today. Also got a blowjob and again lasted as long as I wanted to before she was ready to give in. I guess all that core work was pushing on a tilted pelvis and was causing the golf ball feeling. Because with a neutral pelvis I do not get that feeling at all, but have a very relaxed pelvic floor and it translates into the bedroom.

Next step, keep grinding! And have a positive attitude obviously. My pelvis is still naturally tilted but with core work and focusing on glutes and hammies, it’ll surely improve. I also focused a lot on my upper back today. Did pretty much a full body workout since I won’t be able to get to the gym due to the holidays.

Will keep everyone updated next few months

[skyisthelimitpe]

Got another update. Things have been going really well. As anthony suggested, I've been focusing on my upper back region. I didn't realize how much this would matter to my pelvic floor and my breathing. Even though I've only been doing it for a few days, I can already see the potential. Obviously going to take a lot more work and consistency to make it permanent, but even after the workout I can feel my shoulders being brought back.

As for the lower body, I've been focusing on engaging my glutes and hammies during my workouts and have changed the routine a bit. I've been pushing my legs out more and have been making sure to tuck my pelvis/engage my core and this has definitely made a difference. I can feel the pump in my glutes and hammies after the workout which is something that I've never really felt. Made me realize that there's probably a reason why I'm so quad dominant. I also want to note that I've been making my pelvis as neutral as possible throughout the day and have been keeping up with core work. This has completely removed that golf ball feeling I had in my rectum. Amazing stuff.

My balls have been hanging low, my perineum is loose and "squishy" and edging has been going pretty good. I can edge for as long as I want to now which is nothing new. I've only gotten blowjobs since this post and I've been able to last for as long as I want and it has been consistent as well. Been getting them almost daily so that's a good sign. Definitely better than a few months ago when I would last like 30 seconds TOPS.

Here's one thing I want to bring up: For those that are cured, do you even feel the need to RK anymore? Since i started focusing heavy on core my body does a natural RK the whole day. Like my core is pushing up on my pelvic floor at all times and it's dropped 24/7. It's like that to the point where I almost can't even RK because my body is naturally RK'ing for me. Is this normal?

I guess my next thing to do now is keep grinding in the gym. Again, to everyone reading this, this problem takes time and a lot of effort in the gym. Your body needs to change and sufficient diet and exercise is needed. Fortunately, I have a very athletic body and see changes quickly so progression has been somewhat steady, but there have definitely been times where I regressed. Still am doing it now.

One of the major issues I am having now is my obsession with this process. I can't stop thinking about it and it kinda becomes a bit of a mental illness. Always focusing on how my pelvic floor feels and freaking out if something feels wrong with edging. I know I'm going to cum quick in the near future since I'm not 100% cured (and also most men do have these moments of cumming quick every once in a while) and unfortunately when that does happen I'll be upset. I definitely haven't mastered the whole mental part of this process which sucks. It's like my life revolves around this and my happiness is based on this. I 100% need to work on that.

Last thing: Anyone have any recommendations on how to breath during and before sex? Some specifics would be helpful. Since I've got the pelvic floor situation down my breathing could use a bit of work.

[Anthony_gerio]

Here's one thing I want to bring up: For those that are cured, do you even feel the need to RK anymore? Since i started focusing heavy on core my body does a natural RK the whole day. Like my core is pushing up on my pelvic floor at all times and it's dropped 24/7. It's like that to the point where I almost can't even RK because my body is naturally RK'ing for me. Is this normal?

It's not a disease to be cured, you develop your body thus, able to last longer .
I personally, after making my TVA activated and dominant muscle, did not feel the need to use RK particular trainings out of the bed. However, while thrusting you need to sometimes use it, in particular in high intensive moments, core activation at all times. If you get comfortable with it, it removes your fear too. Telling to yourself whenever close to pnor, just a slowing things, RK, keep it or not (needs some experience to know the situation and your PF) and continue.

Another point, based on what you say, I suspect you may have sway back posture instead of APT. With Sway back your pelvis can have all three ATP, PPT or neutral position, and in any case it is even more disturbing to PF than normal ATP sometimes. Hamstring, quads (different muscles there) and adductors roles and treatments are significantly different between just ATP and swayback ATP or neutral misalignments. However, glute max and lower abs (practically TVA) are weak and inhibited in both.

Regarding breathing, just have some engagement with your core and easily breath, your breathing will be naturally ok by progressing through your spine and hip developments.

[skyisthelimitpe]

It's not a disease to be cured, you develop your body thus, able to last longer .
I personally, after making my TVA activated and dominant muscle, did not feel the need to use RK particular trainings out of the bed. However, while thrusting you need to sometimes use it, in particular in high intensive moments, core activation at all times. If you get comfortable with it, it removes your fear too. Telling to yourself whenever close to pnor, just a slowing things, RK, keep it or not (needs some experience to know the situation and your PF) and continue.

Another point, based on what you say, I suspect you may have sway back posture instead of APT. With Sway back your pelvis can have all three ATP, PPT or neutral position, and in any case it is even more disturbing to PF than normal ATP sometimes. Hamstring, quads (different muscles there) and adductors roles and treatments are significantly different between just ATP and swayback ATP or neutral misalignments. However, glute max and lower abs (practically TVA) are weak and inhibited in both.

Regarding breathing, just have some engagement with your core and easily breath, your breathing will be naturally ok by progressing through your spine and hip developments.

Yeah I definitely will engage my core during thrusting and I’ve had success doing that in the past.

In regards to your swayback comment, I believe that’s honestly what I may have. Is swayback ATP (if I’m understanding correctly). I have pictures from back right before I began this journey and it looks as though that might be the case.

I’m not going to make an official diagnosis or anything right now, but how would it be different than regular ATP in terms of muscle development?

Just looked at some of the pictures some more and can definitely see there being swayback ATP. My pelvis definitely has more than usual forward tilt and there seems to be a degree of swayback. From a youtube video that I just watched, it said that I want to work my obliques and some glute workouts.

I also want to add that my quads simply cannot relax. Like I cannot lift my knee up at all when standing just strictly using muscles.

So here's what I'm thinking I'll do (and please correct me if you believe I am wrong):

Continue with this routine of strengthening the upper back, hamstrings, glutes, adductors, and core while stretching the quads + hips and improving hip mobility. I'll also add in some oblique work

Just noticed something as well: If I shift my pelvis backwards it makes a little crackle. Like it pops right back into place. This is something that I've always been able to do but I just realized that it may be part of the problem. I hope this makes sense. It's like if I push only my pelvis backwards and flattens my spine it makes this little "pop" as if it's positioned properly.

[Anthony_gerio]

Sway back is the most common posture disorder. In ATP your shoulders are on top or even maybe ahead of your hips, in sway back they are back of your hips or maybe through body compensation with creation of kyphosis and rounding shoulder, at best it can be on top of your hips. Physios identify it very easily.

I also want to add that my quads simply cannot relax. Like I cannot lift my knee up at all when standing just strictly using muscles.

Are you sure the quad is the restricting group, If I understand correctly it is most probably hamstring stiffness.

Continue with this routine of strengthening the upper back, hamstrings, glutes, adductors, and core while stretching the quads + hips and improving hip mobility. I'll also add in some oblique work

If I were you (assuming you have identified sway back correctly) I'd not focus on hamstring, and increased my focus on different squat ranges, hip thrusts etc. practically just removing hamstring out of the equation.
Also be careful your quad stretching doesn't become hip flexor stretching.

[skyisthelimitpe]

Sway back is the most common posture disorder. In ATP your shoulders are on top or even maybe ahead of your hips, in sway back they are back of your hips or maybe through body compensation with creation of kyphosis and rounding shoulder, at best it can be on top of your hips. Physios identify it very easily.



Are you sure the quad is the restricting group, If I understand correctly it is most probably hamstring stiffness.



If I were you (assuming you have identified sway back correctly) I'd not focus on hamstring, and increased my focus on different squat ranges, hip thrusts etc. practically just removing hamstring out of the equation.
Also be careful your quad stretching doesn't become hip flexor stretching.

Well, I definitely have some sort of swayback for sure based on your description. My shoulders are behind my hips most definitely in the picture that I’m looking at.

I can almost guarantee that I do not have a posterior pelvic tilt. But, now that I’m looking at the image it doesn’t look like I have that much of a pronounced anterior pelvic tilt either. Just looks like my pelvis is shifted forward in front of my shoulders.

I’ll take this advice and hit the gym with some modifications. I’m going to do some oblique work more often as well since those are absolutely underdeveloped. Unfortunately I do stretch my hip flexors but I’ll stop that immediately.

Should I be strengthening those hip flexors instead now? Just based on what I’ve been reading it seems as though that’s what people typically do with swayback, but then again I really do not think I have a posterior pelvic tilt associated with the swayback. Like you said, there could be three variations and it looks like mine is neutral with maybe a very slight tilt

Anthony, I also just sent you a PM with a picture that I uploaded to the site here to give some more clarity.

[Anthony_gerio]

Sway back used to be the posture of old people.
Hip flexors are not always weak with sway back (new studies on younger populations), the squat variations train them enough. Sway back is more on weak inner thighs, lower abs and glute max dysfunction (not always weak).

[skyisthelimitpe]

To those reading: After some discussion with Anthony we've come to the conclusion that I have moderate sway back with a lot of forward head and rounded back posture. NOT ATP like I thought that I had this entire time. This most likely explains why I've been having huge ups and downs. I frequently stretch the shit out of my hip flexors after a workout and force myself into a neutral/posterior pelvic position in my everyday life. Which as a result I'm assuming causes some of that back pain that I've been having.

Now, I will be following the advice of my trainer along with focusing extra on lower abs, obliques, and glute max. I will be doing upper abs stretches and obliques stretches as well. Will be continuing the upper back workouts to work on those rounded shoulders too. See, with my trainer she probably already had an idea of this stuff and that's why she designed the program that way but she never exactly spoke about the issues. Just has me working out lol. My bad for not communicating with her so I'll definitely be more open about it.

Already did a lower body workout this morning and then afterwards did obliques and that upper abs stretch. I can definitely feel the difference after one time. It's like my pumped obliques (which have never been pumped) are holding my torso upright. Really awesome feeling! Now, as we all know, it's time to grind the hell in the gym and be consistent with diet.

For those reading this: Please please please figure out exactly what is wrong with your body in terms of muscular imbalances. I really tried a whole lot of things including RK's constantly and edging. I definitely didn't put in the time like I've seen other people do, but that's because it just made sense that muscular imbalances were causing pelvic dysfunction and so I embarked on that journey instead. I am very confident when I say that I strongly believe most people here have some form of muscular imbalances. Along with this, it does not take one day to see improvements. Your muscles will be broken down and then have to be built back up. It has taken a lot of trial and error for me to figure these things out and it has been almost a mental illness trying to figure all this shit out.

Please do your research thoroughly. Take pics, post them to other forums or wherever you need to and get advice if you can't go to a professional. Then do more research and come to a conclusion. Also, not all professionals will be that effective in solving your issues in my experience. I have a physical therapist fuck me up by telling me I had ATP and then giving my wrong exercises. Told me I had ATP and told me to stretch my hamstrings??

Once you've reached your conclusion on what is out of balance, go to the gym and grind and DO NOT expect results within the first day or week. Get your diet right and go hard and train correctly. I know this is already things that have been stated on this forum, but I personally can tell you it works and it is the truth. My pelvic floor is much more relaxed and I've seen tremendous success. Unfortunately, I was doing things a bit wrong these past few months which is why I've probably seen huge success and then failure, but shit happens.