PE is an impossible puzzle

[Johnny D]

He's making the argument that the ability for a man to ejaculate quickly is what ensured the survival of the species. You had to get in and get out (so to speak) without wasting much time and making yourself vulnerable to predators. The men who took too long weren't as likely to procreate - their genetics would be the abnormal ones. It also paid off back when sex/mating probably wasn't exactly consensual - you had to bust before you got bucked off.

The pushback to your argument, saying that women take longer to orgasm, would be that women don't have to orgasm to procreate. It would have been irrelevant then and a woman who orgasmed at all was probably abnormal.

However.... We're not talking about then and we're talking about now. The fact that so many women have orgasms is probably a good counter-argument to premature ejaculation being normal. My reasoning being: Eventually sex had to become consensual - civilized man couldn't just mate with any female he could tackle from behind. But if it's not particularly enjoyable for women, what would be their incentive to do it beyond just the innate urge to procreate? So there were some women who received more physical pleasure from it and were, therefore, more likely to reproduce offspring like them. And then there were the "abnormal" men who couldn't ejaculate quickly - they became a much better sexual partner for the woman who was looking for more than just facilitating reproduction. So those men who lasted longer than normal mixed with those women who received physical pleasure, were contributing more frequently to the gene pool.

The statistics say that something like 1/4 to 1/3 of men ejaculate prematurely. So what used to be normal and necessary for species survival is no longer the statistical norm. Just another example of how men will change their nature to get some tail.

[Party]

He's making the argument that the ability for a man to ejaculate quickly is what ensured the survival of the species. You had to get in and get out (so to speak) without wasting much time and making yourself vulnerable to predators. The men who took too long weren't as likely to procreate - their genetics would be the abnormal ones. It also paid off back when sex/mating probably wasn't exactly consensual - you had to bust before you got bucked off.

The pushback to your argument, saying that women take longer to orgasm, would be that women don't have to orgasm to procreate. It would have been irrelevant then and a woman who orgasmed at all was probably abnormal.

However.... We're not talking about then and we're talking about now. The fact that so many women have orgasms is probably a good counter-argument to premature ejaculation being normal. My reasoning being: Eventually sex had to become consensual - civilized man couldn't just mate with any female he could tackle from behind. But if it's not particularly enjoyable for women, what would be their incentive to do it beyond just the innate urge to procreate? So there were some women who received more physical pleasure from it and were, therefore, more likely to reproduce offspring like them. And then there were the "abnormal" men who couldn't ejaculate quickly - they became a much better sexual partner for the woman who was looking for more than just facilitating reproduction. So those men who lasted longer than normal mixed with those women who received physical pleasure, were contributing more frequently to the gene pool.

The statistics say that something like 1/4 to 1/3 of men ejaculate prematurely. So what used to be normal and necessary for species survival is no longer the statistical norm. Just another example of how men will change their nature to get some tail.

Id agree with all of that except in my marriage. I had Pre E for years, married and with same woman for 40 years. She learned to orgasm quickly as I was only going to last a minute or two, and my fore play skills were terrible. So if she wanted to get off she’d better be quick. Later in life my Pre E solved itself but she still was able to orgasm quickly. Now she is hyper multi orgasmic, even has sleeping orgasms. She’s very rare indeed.

[skyisthelimitpe]

I can say from experience that breathing techniques and RK's do not work for everyone. I thought that that was the only way to do things and that I was just screwed. That was just not the case. Then I realized that I had awful hip mobility and a mispositioned pelvis and now I'm seeing some great results by fixing these imbalances.

[Xlavius]

Sorry for not updating in a while. I got a real breakthrough and I didn't want to report until I was sure that it wasn't a one-off success again.

Stretching my pelvic floor alone didn't work for me in the past. So, I quit that. Same goes for reverse kegels. And again the same goes for treating my anxiety. But when I combine it all, progress is made. I've now been doing my reverse kegels whilst positioned in a deep hindi-squat. When I do that I can really feel an awesome stretch inside. If I overdo it I can actually make it hurt, that's how tense my muscles are.

Anyways, since doing that I've had increasingly improving control. Had sex three times and the first time was already a good improvement. The two times after that even better.

The tightness is undoubtedly caused my my anxiety issues. So it's probably something that I'll always have to work on. But that's not a big issue.

[Tooners88]

Try pau yuen tong balm. Stuff is fucking magical. Put a small amount on the frenulum area, ideally two separate times within a couple hours leading up to sex then wash it off with warm water and soap beforehand. Enjoy.

[Shmendrix]

I can say from experience that breathing techniques and RK's do not work for everyone. I thought that that was the only way to do things and that I was just screwed. That was just not the case. Then I realized that I had awful hip mobility and a mispositioned pelvis and now I'm seeing some great results by fixing these imbalances.

Can you send me your routine?
I believe I have the same case as yours

[skyisthelimitpe]

Can you send me your routine?
I believe I have the same case as yours

Check anklepains thread that he started back in 2019 and head to around the last page. That’s where I posted my routine.

Please post a posture pic and log so we can confirm

[skyisthelimitpe]

I used to think PE was an impossible puzzle but have now realized it’s not.

Not even worth arguing with all the people that for some reason think cumming within seconds-2min is normal.

They’ll see. Everyone posting these posture pics has muscular imbalances that are easily seen in the pictures. Every single person. Should be one of the first things people do on this forum is post a posture pic when asking for help. Would solve so many issues for the guys that rubber band their dick and use hangers and shit