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  • Here's what helped me and can possibly help you to deal with PE and EQ

    Hello! First, thank you for helping me. Yes, your community is one of the biggest reasons why I started seeing improvements in my stamina and EQ. Now I'll try to return the favor and reflect on the most important factors in my progress, and hope that they will be useful to the people who want to deal with related difficulties. I'm open to advice and constructive criticism.

    Here's a little backstory of what my situation was - Most of the times I finished under 5 minutes, with rare exceptions. The all time record was 15 seconds and it wasn't really planned. Just went in fast and furious, my senses got overstimulated, and boom. I also had an okay EQ, but it definitely could've been better for my age(I'm currently 25).

    Now, here's what I've learned and mostly attribute to the positive results :

    Physical Relaxation - Not being tense and breathing properly is one of the best things you can do.

    What helped me was to imagine breathing with my balls, or in other words, as deep and diaphragmic as I can. The combination of breathing in a relatively slow rhythm and doing a reverse kegel with every inhale can help you relax and loosen up while in action. The reverse kegels should feel like a stretch, instead of a clench. Imagine your diaphragm going down with each inhale and letting you stretch your pelvic floor easier. When you feel your lungs getting full, the RK should be at its peak and you should feel a nice stretch under your balls. Remember, no force or clench. You are trying to relax your pelvic floor and that will inevitably help you last longer.

    Kegels are the most stimulating thing you can do while thrusting, so avoid them while in action. Doing reverse kegels near the climax is also a thing to avoid, cause it gets you even closer to the end, but on all other arousal levels they work great.

    When you become comfortable with most principles, you can add up a bit of butt cheek clench(avoid pelvic floor tension) to get some extra size, but keep in mind that it may also stimulate the pelvic muscles, so use it wisely.

    Mental Relaxation - The physical relaxation techniques are useful tools, but not the whole toolbox.

    Personally, I find myself getting arousal spikes by too many thoughts connected to getting pleasure, too much inner commentary of her beauty, thoughts about "filling up the sweet booty" and similar, expecting to finish fast, performance anxiety, and last but not least - thinking about the orgasm.

    A person can't "stop thinking of the pink elephant", so focus on relaxing, being present, giving her pleasure, with a bit of appreciation, but not too much. When you sense some unwanted heat rising up, focus on your breath and imagine being the breath itself, simply observing the act as it happens, but also performing it. Having some confident thoughts like being in control, letting her work to get it, performing well, being worthy, building endurance, etc. can also be effective. Focusing on other things like multiplying numbers or singing a song from start to end can help, but I don't recommend it, because it takes you out of the experience.

    Practice - We all know that like training all parts of your body, you also have to train your penis.

    Here are my main practices :

    Kegels and Reverse Kegels

    Do many of them. Avoid overtraining though. You will feel it when your pelvic floor is overworked and find your medium. Don't focus on only one of the two variations, except when adapting to certain muscle imbalance(K=more strength; RK=more stretch). Sitting kegels are easier than standing ones. Flaccid ones are easier than erect ones. Standing erect ones with a towel/bit of resistance are the hardest. When doing start-stop in rest times, doing a steady kegel hold followed by a good reverse kegel can lower arousal and also enhance EQ.

    A good exercise to teach you how to isolate the reverse kegels(useful in action) is the "full house". It consists of a sequence of kegel > reverse kegel > root lock > reverse root lock. Root lock is basically clenching the muscles around your anus and reverse root lock is stretching them. The reverse root lock should feel like passing a fart. Try to replicate that stretch to the front part of the pelvic floor and you will learn how to do reverse kegel properly. Doing the full house regularly will help you to isolate the different holds and stretches. It will also contribute to preventing muscle imbalance.

    If you feel like you have too tight/overworked pelvic floor, avoid all exercises that make it tense for a while. Stretch your pelvic floor with body poses like cat/cow, child, and deep squat(not with weight of course, just holding a squat low to feel stretch). Do some reverse kegels and reverse root locks, and you will loosen up.

    Edging/Ballooning/Start-stop

    These practices teach you to be familiar with pleasure. I find start-stop to be the mildest out of the three, so it can be a good start. Next are ballooning and edging, which are pretty similar in nature. Choose your preferred one an incorporate it, as all three can be very useful.

    I personally do my own variation, which also works on my slight left curvature, coupled with stretching the upper part of the skin. The steps are :

    • Get fully erect.
    • Pull foreskin down below the glans, but leave a bit of room for skin movement(don't pull to the full limit).
    • Put an okay sign on the base of the penis with your passive hand(don't squeeze, just enough to hold and be able to control the lower half of your penis; when advancing you can use different grips on the passive hand for extra challenge).
    • Push the penis base down with the passive hand while holding the skin down to get in position(don't overdo the pushing and do it as much as you feel comfortable; pushing the penis down can intensify the sensations, so you can skip if you're just starting; you can also tilt a bit to a direction opposite of a curvature, if you have one).
    • Put the finger(or okay sign/full hand if advanced) of your active hand on a preferred sweet spot(better avoid the frenulum when you're starting and slowly progress with each session towards the point below it that makes you go nuts).
    • Start doing circular motions(strokes if advanced; also can stroke towards one side to fix curvature, but be careful with the upper tilt, cause you're fully erect).
    • Surf on the edge(adapt to arousal with grips and intensity; if you are having a break, do a long kegel hold followed by a good reverse kegel, while resting)
    • Avoid ejaculating if you have done it enough to be horny, but not irritated after that(optimal), and finish if you spent too much time doing it and get blue balls(suboptimal).


    Also, don't stroke too hard and fast at first(the frenulum is sensitive), but imagine that you're going balls deep to get familiar with the intense sensations and stretch your skin(if your skin is already stretched enough, stroke less). Also try to identify your arousal triggers while doing it. Counter them with deep breaths, calm mind, and pelvic relaxation. Be in tune with your physical and mental self. Change grips, change penis positions, change speed. The aim is to get accustomed to the different sensations and adapt yourself to them. This will help you tremendously in lasting longer.

    Be cautious that watching porn, while doing start-stop/edging/ballooning/this(or other) variation, can be too stimulating for the brain, which is both good and bad.

    It's good, because porn exposes you to pleasure that is similar to the real deal. It will make you advance faster. Also, I just had a 40 minute session and can tell you that it feels amazing.

    The bad thing is that porn encourages bad habits and can also mess up with your brain's dopamine circuits, which are really important for your motivation and drive.

    /!\That's why you shouldn't do that practice too often(more than 3-4 times a week), for too much time(blue balls), and preferably you shouldn't watch too much porn. If you want to progress faster, doing the practice more often, and with porn, can help you get there. Once you are at a comfortable place with your stamina though, you should definitely chill and go back to practicing every 2-3 days or less, and without porn, if possible.

    Stretching

    Too tight skin = overstimulation and sensitivity. Stretch your penis up, down, outwards, to the sides, skin down, skin up, do helicopters. Always warm up your penis before stretching. Don't stretch while erect. Semi-erect or less(50%>) is good, but avoid overdoing it.

    Penis Enlargement

    I think that starting an enlargement routine helped me achieve a boost in stamina and get more in tune with my dick. If you're curious, I'm not very advanced into enlargement and currently a few weeks into the JP90.

    Dry Orgasm - Double or triple the time you are performing without losing time and making your girl wait.

    As you advance with kegels and edging, you will be able to perform a dry orgasm. This is how I do it :

    First, in order to ensure a successful dry orgasm, sit or lay down on your back. A standing dry orgasm is more advanced. Dry orgasms are all about timing and kegel strength. When you feel like reaching the PONR, prepare yourself and imagine pushing your core a bit forward and the pelvic bone a bit backward(best form in my experience). When you feel the PONR kicking in, you should do the following quickly and accurately :

    • Breathe in deeply.
    • Pull your skin up or stop your girl with your dick not being fully in(penetrating/skin down sensation triggers ejaculation).
    • Kegel as hard as you can and hold it for the duration of the orgasm, while also exhaling in a slow and controlled manner(timing of the kegel should be as soon as you start feeling intense pleasure and before the first throbbing reflex; exhaling slowly helps you to hold a strong kegel; lifting the feet up just a little bit also seems to help with maintaining the hold).


    You will feel and see your dick throbbing, coupled with pleasure very similar to a regular orgasm, but there will be no ejaculation. The throbbing reflex is supposed to launch your load out, so you must be absolutely holding a kegel when it happens, but you can learn the rhythm and take small breaks between the second half of the throbs that are less intense. There you go! You had a dry orgasm.

    If you do it right, there is a high chance that you will be still hard or at least hard in no time. I don't know the science behind it, but I know that it works. The dick feels more ready for action after a dry orgasm, compared to an ejaculative one. Maintaining an erection after it is no problem. Lastly, don't add up dry orgasms without ejaculating for a long time. You have to make sure that your tubes are in check, which in my opinion is mostly 3-4 days without a nut and definitely not more than a week(if you are doing dry orgasms; nofap can be good for a moderate amount of time to get back sensitivity in both penis and brain).

    This is basically it. The most concepts are probably already available in separate forum threads(I learned most from here), but I felt like compiling them in one, coupled with sharing my viewpoints and experiences that helped me deal with PreE and enhance my EQ. I'm glad if I could help
    BFC
    Junior Member
    Last edited by BFC; 04-13-2021, 10:26 PM.

  • #2
    Good work. Thank for sharing.

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    • #3
      Thanks for the reply. Just edited it a bit to make it easier to read.

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      • #4
        Hi BFC,

        Good to know that you have improved and hard work has helped.
        I have few doubts.

        1. Reverse kegel to be done while inhaling or exhaling
        2. Kegels help in what way? Is it for better erection in general.
        3. I have penis curved to right. What can be done to improvise? I just consciously push it to the left side while edging

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        • #5
          Hello!

          The reverse kegels should be done when inhaling. Good thing that you mentioned it, because I accidentally switched them around in the post explanation, which I apologize for. When you breathe in deeply, your diaphragm contracts and goes down, pushing the organs below it. This helps to expand and stretch your pelvic floor easier. On the other hand, when performing a kegel, you should breathe out slowly and your kegel hold will be stronger. This is actually very important for the dry orgasm and will add it in the post.

          Kegels make your erection quality better and improve your muscle control. They are essential and also are the key to dry orgasm. The only downside is if you overdo them and get tight pelvic floor. That's why you should implement both kegels and reverse kegels, to maintain the muscle balance. If you notice any imbalance, then you can adjust your practice to it. For example, if you are too loose and can't control your muscles, you should focus on kegels, and if you're too tight and overworked, you should focus on reverse kegels.

          If your penis is curved at the base, then bend to the opposite direction with your passive hand, while practicing. If the curve is near the glans or the middle, bend very carefully with your dominant hand when doing 50%+ erection exercises. You shouldn't tolerate any irritation and the bend should be very subtle. You should just feel your grip different and more to the desired side. I'm no expert on curves, but this, coupled with regular stretching to the desired side, should help. Also be aware of your resting position, as that may be one of the factors leading to the curve. If your penis is sitting too much on the right side, move it to the left.

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          • #6
            It is believed that multi-orgasm is bad for sexual health. It requires strong BC muscle training. With multi-orgasm, this muscle contracts strongly each time to prevent sperm from ejaculating. This can lead to an imbalance in the pelvic floor muscles and cause HF.

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            • #7
              Are you sure that the HF and muscle imbalance are caused by the dry orgasms themselves or by careless exercising? If you do a lot of kegels, have very few rest days, avoid reverse kegels, and dry orgasm a lot, well that's a recipe for overactive pelvic floor. The tightness can be fixed by doing reverse kegels, stretching your pelvic floor with different body poses, and getting rest from all exercises involving muscle tension around the pelvic floor. At least in my case. I have been doing a lot of kegels and reverse kegels, coupled with practicing dry orgasms since months. Knocking on wood, I haven't had any issues.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by nupru View Post
                It is believed that multi-orgasm is bad for sexual health. It requires strong BC muscle training. With multi-orgasm, this muscle contracts strongly each time to prevent sperm from ejaculating. This can lead to an imbalance in the pelvic floor muscles and cause HF.
                if multi orgasm was bad for health i would be dead .

                When I do multi orgasm I use more than the bc and I do reverse as well .

                Want to learn more join the mmo club free onsite .\

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
                  if multi orgasm was bad for health i would be dead .

                  When I do multi orgasm I use more than the bc and I do reverse as well .

                  Want to learn more join the mmo club free onsite .\
                  Hey Pegasus, can you point me to the mmo club? In am interested in mmo. I have been following the "MINUTEMAN'S DRY ORGASM GUIDE" for now. Still working on my kegel strength thou. I hope in a month or so I make some progress.

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                  • #10
                    https://www.pegym.com/forums/groups/...y-orgasms.html

                    Check the edging to mmo thread and combine with what you are already doing.

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                    • #11
                      Updated the kegels and relaxation sections and made the whole thing easier to read.

                      Feedback, advice, and even criticism are appreciated.

                      The last two things that I incorporated are the "full house" exercise(learning to isolate muscle activation) and trying to make the reverse kegels as relaxed and stretchy as possible, instead of trying to push the pelvic floor down hard(both explained in detail in the post update). I've noticed some improvement in the last days, so it's probably because of them.

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