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    Hello guys.

    I've been searching and studying this whole ejaculating-to-fast and i believe that i found a way to avoid the PE, so i want you guys, that experience PE, to try this out, whenever you gonna have sex. Reason i can't is because my girlfriend is gone for a while.

    Guys, i've spend a lot of time writing this down, so i hope read Everything, and give it a shot. You have nothing to loose.

    In the first phrase, i will be talking about the cause of PE and something about the kegels.
    In the second, i will start about how to cure it, BUT you need to read the first phrase aswell to accomplish.
    In the third, i will tell some more important Notes.
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    It's all in your MIND! (Phrase 1)
    Before I jump in to the whole story, I wanna tell you something. A lot guys(including me) are doing kegels and other exercises to last up longer. I have come to a conclusion(and now please dont bash me), that none of those exercises, TRUELY cure PE. Now everyone is gonna be like:''What?? So all the exercises for nothing?'' No, thats not what i'm saying, what im saying is, those exercises help you indirectly. As the title says, it's all in your mind.

    Im gonna talk about the kegel stuff later, the part what i mean with ''indirectly''. First, i wanna tell you something, that you might believe differenly right now: Premature Ejaculation is NOT a health problem or that your dick is more sensitive then other dicks. You can't have ''PE''. It's not some kind of DNA that makes you come fast or something like that. Many guys believe that when they ejaculated too fast for a couple of times, they got ''the premature ejaculation'' cells in them, or something like that. NOT TRUE. You dont have anything. So then you ask: ''Then why do i ejaculate too fast?'' Glad you asked: Now remember your first time sex. High posibility that the first time was messed up. You ejaculated too fast. This is because of tension and tension can be caused by a lot of things(I am gonna tell you more about this. Now the next time sex, unfortunatelly, you messed up again. Came too fast again. Now what happens in your mind, is that you are starting to believe AND learn that you always mess up and come too fast.
    It's like a domino-effect: You hit the first domino, and then all those other domines fall down aswell. So when the first time is somehow messed up, the others follow. So THAT is the reason why you come too fast, because somewhere in your sexual life, you have ejaculated too fast and now you believe that you are a guy that just comes too fast=NOT TRUE.


    Now i just said that Kegels and stuff only work indirectly. Many of you guys will be like: ''But it worked for me so what are you talking about?''. It worked and im really happy for you it did! But here is the thing: It worked because you believed that it was gonna work! You see, you did the exercises, kegels are REALLY good for your penis + you believed that they were gonna help you last longer. You re-learned your mind that you CAN last if you do those exercises. Ofcourse relaxing and stuff help with decreasing excitement-level, but that was not directly the reason that you lasted long. Well, you did them, and now you last longer. It took off tension because you know you did those exercises. Same story about the ballooning.
    Now the thing is, when you relax your PC-muscle, you decrease your excitement-level.There is point, where the relaxing doesn't work(close to PONR). So you want to relax your penis before you reach that point. With ballooning, you can learn at what exact point you want to relax. (if you want more information about this, tell me and ill post it)

    The other part of the story, some guys exercise kegels, but still dont see any improment in their sex. Why not? It's because you are still too tensed to have sex. You still believe that you cant last long. When you go into that bedroom, your gf gets naked, and then suddenly this tought pops up that you ain't gonna last. Now it doesn't matter if your penis can Bench press 200 kilo's, you aint gonna last if that tought is in your mind.

    ''How did you came up with this?''
    Glad you asked. I came up with this because of my OWN experience and studying. The first three times sex of me: I messed up. They were 20 to 30 seconds. The fourth time, i literally lasted 20-30 minutes. The most funny part is, the time between the third time sex and the fourth was only like 3 days. I didn't do any exercise. The thing was, the first 3 times, we were NOT home alone. This gave me tension. The fourth time, we were home alone, and this time at MY place. I also knew that her ex could last longer. Between the third and the fourth time, I literally TOLD my self, that i was going to last. I just HAD to. So what happend? I lasted. Now for a long time, i did last very long at sex, but then suddenly... i started to have session where i ejaculated premature again. I was like : ''What the hell??''. I came home, i picked up a blanco paper, and i writ down how the sex was when i lasted long and how the sex was when i didn't last long. Funny thing i saw was, that with the sex i didn't last long, I always had a source for stress/tension. This time, it was not about her parents being at home, but we hadn't had sex for about 2/3 weeks, so i suddenly tought that i needed to perform good. I forgot about the whole point of sex, that it's something to enjoy together. I suddenly tought, because we hadn't had sex for ''that long'', that i couldn't last anymore. So that happend.

    Anytime, i came too fast again, the next time sex, was good again. But then, there came a part where my gf left to vacation, for 2 months! Now you feel that coming? When she was back, i was totally off balance. I knew that when i was going to see her ass, i would flip lol. Problem is, I shouldn't have tought like that. Now, since that vacation, I had 2 times too fast, 1 time lasting long, and next 2 times too fast again. Thats where i stuck, haven't have sex for 3 weeks now, and probably next week I will have sex. AND I CANT WAIT TO HAVE SEX. You know why? Because im gonna last LONG! But this time, im not gonna fall back anymore.
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    Now how are you guys going to last long? (Phrase 2)
    The whole point of phrase 1 was, to let you see the light, that PE is something in your mind. I want you to get control of your mind.
    For example: When you watch a horror movie, but before the movie starts, you tell yourself: All the things in movie are FAKE and nothing can happen in reallife. Most people that do this, start laughing at ''scary parts'' of the movie. It's because you told your mind that it's not scary and can't happen at all. Good. Why not perform that with sex? The problem lays wayyy more before the whole sex act. It starts when you wake up.

    Now im going to describe a scenario of a sex session where someone ejaculates too fast. Read it, and SEE if you can find yourself, somehow, in the story:
    So you just woke up and it's saturday. Your girlfriend told you on friday that she has a really sexy surprise for you. You will get it on saturday. Oh god, it's saturday today! So you get out of bed, start taking a shower, brushing your teeth etc etc. Now somehow, in your mind, your girlfriend pops up. Then you start thinking about the surprise and you know it's about SEX. Now your hart starts to beat a little bit faster. You know about the last time, messed up.... Will this time be any better? You get out of shower, get some clothes on. Now troughout the whole day, you have those moments that you think about tonight, about the sex. Now pretend that you had worked that day, now you came home, and then, 1 hour later, your girlfriend comes home.
    Haha, here comes the whole thing. Your gf looks all sexy, this dress is amazing. If you pull that up, you could see her ass in her sexy string and her boobs are asking to be licked.(high chance that your heart is beating fasting by only reading this!). Now after some talking, about how the day was, she suddenly starts to kiss you, laying all over you, touching you everywhere. Wow, you are in a total stress mode. Your girlfriend is HOT, you want to perform good and please her with long sex, because she does all this thing for you. You 2 end up in the bedroom, foreplay starts. You start to using your fingers, BUT in your mind, the only thing you think about is: Shitt im not gonna last, im gonna screw up, shit. And then the last thing you wanted to hear comes out of the mouth of your girlfriend: ''Baby, i want YOU inside, to fuck me real good''. Now you have to go inside. You cant tell her to wait because you dont want her to think that you cant handle her. So you stick it inside. Suddenly you think: ''The KEGELS! Kegel kegel. If i kegel i will go against the premature ejaculation.'' You kegel, then you relax, you relax again, doesn't work, but you have to keep on thrusting, you cant stop or else your gf wont like that(stopping-starting, girls hate that) and then, the thing happend, where you were stressing about the whole day....PE...

    I just made up that story in like 1 minute, but the whole point of the story is, to see the moments where the man is thinking the wrong way. As i said, the whole problems starts when you wake up. You think about the sex, but you think negative.
    Anyway, Im going to give you the TIPS, which i believe is gonna help you last longer. Those tips relay on the fact that PE is caused by stress and tension. Those tips will reduce tension and stress which will help you last longer.

    I have to note first
    that I call my tips primair and secundair. Primair tips are psychology tips, that lay in your mind. Those prmair tips i believe are enough to make you last longer. How ever, you might wanna use the secundair tips aswell. Those are physical tips.

    TIP 1(PRIMAIR):
    When ever you realise that you are thinking negative about sex, STOP. Start thinking about the different aspects of the sex and NOT about your penis. Only thing you are thinking about is your own penis. Screw that, think about the sex, but from a whole different view. See sex as the most normal thing in life. What is sex? Why would it make you soo excited?? Like seriously, it's just 2 people getting naked and you getting excited of boobs? 2 Fleshy things. Have you ever seen them from inside, disgusting!
    Now im not trying to make a you a homosexual. I want you too have Reality check. Open up a porn clip, without jerking off, just watch it. Look at it. What is sex? Is it all about the penis? No. Start thinking about sex a whole different way! Dont be like a kid in a candy store. Man up. Sex is something normal. You can handle that, it's not a big deal. RIGHT !

    TIP 2(PRIMAIR): Now notice that the tip I gave at 1, is something that lays outside the bedroom, before the whole sexual act. This one does aswell. This tip is about CONFIDENCE. Oh god i love this part, because this part might be the key for a lot of you guys to last longer.
    Now, remember that you were with this hot girl, girlfriend or not, you 2 were somewhere, getting naked. She was sooo hot, you felt like an honour that you even could have sex with her. Notice that you might be thinking that this girl is ''better'' then you. You might feel like recessive, while she is being dominant. DONT THINK THAT WAY. I want you to be an arrogant COCK inside your mind. Ofcourse be nice to girls etc, but in your mind be arrogant, like you are way more better then this girl. Tell yourself that it would be an honour for HER if she even had a possibilty to have sex with you. Those toughts will get out the feeling that you need to perform on her = Recude of stress!
    A couple of guys asked me once: ''Why do we, nice guys, that want to give our wives the best sex, ejaculate too fast, while jerks, cheating on women, sex like a beast??'' Well i told them what i just said. They are jerks, arrogant bastards, they dont care about the girl if she is gonna like it or not, they want to put it in, fuck the hell out of her, and then leave. Those guys are TELLING them selves that they are the best(while they probably suck), but hey, they believe it,and it works. Now you dont have to be like cruel minded guy that just want to fuck her and be gone. I just want you to be relaxed about a girl. BE CONFIDENT. You are a guy, that can last as long as you want! You dont worry about the girl, you KNOW you can last long. Dont let her take the lead and control you. You want to control HER.

    Now if you read my story about that guy, you'll see that at one point she kisses him and laying all over him. You see, this guy is being recessive. He let go of himself. Now i dont say you have to be dominant everytime, but i want you to think dominant. I want you to be like: ''Pfff come girl, let me see if you can excite me.''

    So you dont have to act like differently to girls, but you need to THINK differently. Think about this

    TIP 3(PRIMAIR): I call this tip the REALITY CHECK. What is a reality check. It's like, you are almost going to have sex, you 2 are in the room and getting all naked, and then suddenly, you pause the whole situation(IN YOUR MIND). You are like: Ok, right now, we are in the room, im getting naked, she is getting naked, im going to go down on her, my fingers, tounge. Im perfectly relaxed, just having sex, no big deal. Ok. You just had a Reality Check. It's like, escaping out of your mind, and watching the whole situation, from above. Reality check.
    WHY THE HELL DO THIS? It helps you being
    conscious. A lot of guys forgot EVERYTHING when they are about to have sex. ONLY thing they think about is the sexy and hot feeling, they want to touch and lick everything out of the girl. You lost your conscious. This is the reason, why your penis is almost up to the PONR, without you knowing it. If you learn to be conscious about the sex, you will feel the control in your penis. You may be pro at start-stop technique with jerking off, but sex is different. With sex, if you loose your conscious, you loose to your mind. This tip relates to TIP 1, because in TIP 1 i tell you to be relaxed about sex, it's a normal thing. Be conscious about it....

    TIP 4(Secundair): Ok, we are now getting into the bedroom. Now, this tip will be about BREATHING. Now i am sure that a lot of you guys will be like: ''Yeah i tried breathing but ain't working''. Well it ain't working because you're doing it on the wrong time. A lot of guys start breathing the right way when they are about to approach PONR. Well buddy,thats too late. Just like relaxing your PC muscle at that time won't work, breathing won't either. Almost NOTHING will work if you are almost at PONR. You want to relax yourself to sucha level that you are away of that PONR.

    You want to perform those breathing technique while she is touching you, while you are fingering or licking her. You want to learn yourself to breath well at any moment. Make a natural thing. Now pay attention to the breathing techniques that im going to show you:
    -Triangular Breathing. This breathing technique is performed in meditation and it brings the mind in total relax. What you are doing is, you breath in for 3-5 seconds, hold up your breath for 3-5 seconds, and then breath out for 3-5 seconds. When you do this, i want you to imagen a triangle in your mind, and follow that triangle while you breath.

    -Breath out hard. As it says, you need to breath out really good. A lot of guys hold up their breath while having sex. No, breath out, breath out hard, so that no air is left in your loungs. Try this when jerking off. You will notice that your PC-muscle relaxes when you do this + that your excitement-level drops.

    -The Beer Breath. This is title goes out to one of my friends that called it that way. He described like this: ''You come out of work, really tired, you pick a nice cold beer, and sit down on the couch, and you are like, ahhhhhhhhhhhh.'' Now im sure you guys know those moments, some of you will have it with something else, but it's the releasing breath out. Like you are released of something.
    THIS TECHNIQUE works really well when having sex. Usually when im inside her and i've thrusted for like 20 seconds, i thrust one time really deep, and while im performing that really deep thrust, i am like ahhhhhhhhhh. My gf always thinks at those moment that i came. Then i surprise her and look her into the eyes and say: ''Oh baby, im far from being done, this is just the start!'' and start thrusting again.

    TIP 5(Secundair): Closing your eyes. A lot of guys reach the PONR because they keep on staring at her boobs while having sex or seeing that ass. A thing that might work for you is just lift up your head and close your eyes(while you are thrusting). The good part is, your girl will mark this as a note that you are really enjoying the sex, which will give her a boost, because you are having sex with her. But for you, you are decreasing your excitement level.

    TIP 6(Secundair): I've never really tried this one, but try to concentrate on your girls body or on somewhere else on your body. A lot of guys stress about their dick, they will even look at their own dick while they are thrusting, and thinking: ''Hey dude, are you gonna last long? Huh? Hey, answer me, HEY!?''. No no no, concentrate about how your hand is feeling, or how your heart is beating. Your
    only think of one thing at a moment. Just like, you cant solve 23 x 4 and 12 x 7 at the same time. You have to choose which one first. You may do it rapidly, but you cant do it at the same time. Same with sex. When you think about the sex, about your exciment, thats the only thing you think about. When you think about your Dick, if you are gonna last long or not, you will only think about that. Nooo, think about her!

    I have some friends that can get their mind of the sex with a (strange) method. They pretend that some person is in the room and within their mind, they are talking with this person. I know it sounds weird, but it works for some man. It did for me aswell.
    One of my friends, his idol was Tom Cruise. He pretended that he was in the room, and he was talking to Tom. LOL. Yeah sounds really strange. He told me that whenever he felt like he was going to cum, but he didn't want to stop thrusting, he looked somewhere in the room, where he pretented Tom was, and started talking to him in his mind. Whenever he felt that the excitement-level dropped, he looked back and started to have sex again. Haha, still cranks me up.

    TIP 7:
    Oeh, my favorite tip. Which is, FOREPLAY! Yep. Simply foreplay. I want you to go on internet and learn more about the pussy. If you say you already know a lot about it(like G-spot,A-spot, Clitoris), thats fine. What i want you to do is, CONCENTRATE on pleasing her with foreplay. Like when you are licking her or fingering her, think about her pussy. Look at her. How does she feel? What is the tempo that you are fingering her at? How deep is your finger? Etc etc. Now did you notice that you didn't even have time to think about your own penis? Or about PE? You didn't have time, because you were too busy pleasing her. This takes of a lot of stress and makes your relaxed. An other good part of this, is that when you have pleased her really good, you wont feel that much pressure on yourself that you have to please her with sex. You already pleased her really good. This helps you to control!

    So what i want you to do is to concentrate on HER!

    This tip related with tip 6.

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    Important Notes (Phrase 3)
    Anyway, I will now stop with the tips. I can still go on with more tips, but there is no need for. I believe that what you have just red will help you last longer.

    -However......i do need to discuss something important with you, which is: I don't want you to all those stuff because you got premature ejaculation. Like i said, you DONT have it. It's not something that you have. You are performing those tips, to get RELAXED and be ONE with the sex. The more you think about premature ejaculation, the less chance you will cure it. So whenever you do kegels, dont be like: ''yeah i do it because i premature ejaculate''. NO, you just doing it because you want a stronger penis. You are learning you self to be conscious about sex, NOT because you have PE, but because you want sex to be something normal.
    See where i'm pointing at? Get the words ''premature ejaculation'' out of your head. Oke, you can't get it out, i know, but atleast dont give it a place in your mind.

    -Go with the flow, with the moment. When you are going to have sex, think about THAT moment, and not the last time sex, because that is PAST. Dont make the future with your past.

    Very important: Now i can see everyone thinking; ''All those tips, how am i going to use all those tips in one time''?
    Well you dont have to use them all in the same time. They are tips. The primair tips need to be planted in your mind. Those will become natural thinking-wise. The other tips, you can use how you like it. If only one doesn't work, use more tips.

    Here comes the most amazing part: Remember when i told you about the domino effect? That when the first time sex is messed up, that your second time will probably too. Well this time, the rolls have been switched. When you are gonna have long sex, the next time(yes you are gonna have!), thats gonna be the first domino, and when the second and third went of long-session-sex again, you will notice that, you dont even have to use those technique anymore! Or let met say that differently: You wont even think about those Tips/techniques, they all come natural. You know why? Because you have learned your mind that you CAN last as you long as YOU want. Your mind believes now. EVEN if you ejaculate fast again after a lot of sex-sessions, you will always get back on track because you KNOW that you did have long-session-sex, so you are able to control. Note that, ANY PERSON in the world can have PE. At some point, PE is a normal thing like, when you haven't have sex for a very long time. Any one could cum too fast. However, dont let your mind believe that because of that you are going to cum fast again. No. Go with the flow(like i stated before), what happend is past, so f*ck that.


    Now, what i want you to do, just to sit back, or lay down, think about what you have red. Think about your last time, can you see yourself making mistakes? Think about how you are going to change those mistakes, by performing one of my Tips.
    Now if you are going to have sex, tomorrow, next week, or maybe today, just remain relaxed, see what you can do with the tips, and simply go have sex. Perform those tips, plant them in your mind, change the way you are thinking about PE. Go into that bedroom, surprise your girl, and come back at this topic telling everyone about your awesome sex, that you just had.

    If i outline the whole point of my story, this is what comes out:
    If you don't change the way you think about sex, there is a high possibility that exercises wont help you.
    If you want to last longer, you need to change the way you think. With thinking i mean overall-thinking, so at any time, but also at specific moments(like when you are going to have sex).

    Any questions are welcome and if someone TOTALLY not agrees with what i have just written down, please just remain calm, tell me what you dont like or what you believe is wrong, and we can discuss about it

    I rest my case and wish you all a great sexual life.

    -TrainingTzr
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    trainingtzr
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    Last edited by trainingtzr; 12-23-2010, 03:56 PM.

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    READ READ READ

    I added one more tip, which is tip 7. Go read that one.

    Also, what i didn't think about was, that most of you guys would concentrate TOO MUCH on those tips.
    I want you guys to have a new goal: Thats not lasting long, but the goal to give her THE BEST foreplay ever! This relates to my tip 6 & 7.
    Ofcourse, use the tips when you feel like you need to, also, get the primair tips planted in your mind. But if i say to you: ''Next sex session'', i want you to directly think about this: Oh yeah that session im going to give her the BEST foreplay ever!

    For guys that are wondering: Why? Like i said, if you guys concentrate too much about the tips, you will unconsciously tell your mind that your goal is next time to not premature ejaculate. But as i told you, i dont want you to think about that. If you keep thinking about that, it's gonna f*ck up your mind. Just think about the tips, try to perform them right away, and your goal for next time is to explore yourself in her pussy

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    • #3
      Good work ! I agree ... physcological ED and Premature Ejaculation is a result of a negative state of mind. Also paralysis of analysis comes into play when having sex, so try not to do to much thinking aswell.
      Starting stats : BPEL 6.25" NBPEL 5.6" EG 4.8"
      Current stats : BPEL 7" NBPEL 6.25" EG 5"
      Main Goal : BPEL 7.5" NBPEL 6.75" EG 5.5"

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      • #4
        Yup, this whole story i wrote down, is similair for people with physcological ED. Only difference is, they worry about not being able to get it up. They can also easly solve the problem.

        Did or do you suffer from (physcological) ED or PE?
        trainingtzr
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        Last edited by trainingtzr; 12-23-2010, 01:20 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by trainingtzr View Post
          Yup, this whole story i wrote down, is similair for people with physcological ED. Only difference is, they worry about not being able to get it up. They can also easly solve the problem.

          Did or do you suffer from (physcological) ED or PE?
          Yeah, i suffered from physcological ED for about for 7 months. Within those 7 months i tried everything through desperation especially supplements to try and gain an errection. I came to realise that i was putting too much pressure on myself to gain an errection and like what you said in your post i was constantly thinking am i gonna get hard ? untill a point that i actually started to doubt that i would get hard. The supplements quite often have the placebo effect that you mentioned in relation to the kegels, but hey if this helps then it is certainly not a bad thing.
          Starting stats : BPEL 6.25" NBPEL 5.6" EG 4.8"
          Current stats : BPEL 7" NBPEL 6.25" EG 5"
          Main Goal : BPEL 7.5" NBPEL 6.75" EG 5.5"

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          • #6
            You should look into the Noni plant, it has givin me the biggest and hardest erection ever.

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            • #7
              Thanks for the Noni plant, I will try it out.

              Anyway, is anyone with PE going to try this out, the things I wrote? I get the feeling that nobody suffers from PE anymore. That would be nice tho :P

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              • #8
                exellent post man...thanks for the tips and tricks
                Starting Size-------6.75" x 5.0"
                Last Measurement-7.25" x 5.25"
                Destination---------7.5" x 5.5"

                "A smile is a curve that sets everything straight"

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                • #9
                  No problem. Let me know if you're gonna try it and let me know aswell how it went Good luck

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                  • #10
                    Training, I read your thread and it gave me inspiration. Please read My Journey. I know it's all in the head now.
                    Bpel 6"
                    Size 14 shoes, hairy chest.
                    Came here to solve my "PE", staying here to practice PE.

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                    • #11
                      dang dude that was inspirational....i probably coulda gotten a boner from all that inspiration if it werent with all this relaxation im trying to feel XD

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                      • #12
                        Good Stuff I believe most of what you said, however i have been able to prolong my self a good deal with kegel/reverse kegels, so there definitely important, at least I believe so, but relaxation plays a major role as well

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                        • #13
                          Uhu, kegels are really important! You should definitely do them. But you know if you can overcome the problem in your mind, you might be even solve it without doing kegel exercises. But doing kegels is always good, so much positive things about!

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                          • #14
                            this definitely deserves a sticky

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                            • #15
                              "With ballooning, you can learn at what exact point you want to relax. (if you want more information about this, tell me and ill post it)"

                              could you expand on what you mean here?

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