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[Only19ButMyMindIsOld Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Only19ButMyMindIsOld]

Thought I'd introduce myself for my first post and explain my story. I've been in a relationship for almost 4 years and for the last 3 we've been having sex. In the first year I couldn't even control my ejaculation pre-sex and would often have to get up and fake a trip to the bathroom and shoot a load. When we did start having sex, I would ejaculate instantly upon penetration and it was very embarrassing. I would just keep going until flaccid and could never satisfy my girl. I then started ejaculating prior to visiting her to last around 6 or so minutes which I don't think was satisfying her either. What was odd is that I could endure limitless oral no matter how hard she worked to get me off. I can still control my ejaculations even when she wants do deepthroat.

Now that we're older we've gotten into the party scene and I've noticed I can last as long as possible when I'm drunk. Sex is a lot more fun for both of us when I'm drunk and can make her orgasm multiple times and finish when we're done. Even the next morning we usually go again and I can last upwards of 20 minutes when I'm not drunk anymore. Marijuana also increases my stamina some; I'd say about +2-3 minutes but It's not much when that only brings total time to 4 minutes.. I was talking to a friend about in and he told me other things would increase performance. I started taking benzos, opiates, and amphetamines to increase my sexual performance.

Over this time I've become very embarrassed to have sex without help from my "friends" and would preferably not take them to increase sexual performance (although all of them are quite fun). It's ruined my confidence with my girlfriend during sex and deters me from having sex sober. This has to stop. I currently take Vyvanse, legally, for my ADD (I do not take this medication for sexual stamina) and it helps somewhat for lasting longer but makes it difficult to get an erection no matter how turned on I am. When I do get an erection it's every hard to keep said erection when switching positions etc.

Has anyone else had problems like me? If so I'd love to hear if/how you've gone about remedying your problems. What steps should I take on my road to recovery? I should also note that: I am not, in any way, shape or form, addicted to OR dependent on any drug.

Thanks,
Nineteen

[Cockadoodle Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Cockadoodle]

Welcome to the Gym. Although I can't say I know much about
ADD medicine and PE, I'm more than certain that if you find a
good routine and stick with it, you can kick your "friends" collective
ass out the door. Try doing the JP90. Although I don't use it myself,
many men have reported success with it.
p.s. it's on the beginner forum.
Happy PE'ing

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

Actually most of the guys that did all the stuff you did are currently dead. The mind is the greatest control for sex, for lasting long, for enjoying, and for love. So do you want to have sex where your mind is in control of do you want to take whatever drug you think makes it better for you. If you stick with the drugs make sure you get lots of sex and fast because that stuff doesn't let people live long!

[Only19ButMyMindIsOld Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Only19ButMyMindIsOld]

Actually most of the guys that did all the stuff you did are currently dead. The mind is the greatest control for sex, for lasting long, for enjoying, and for love. So do you want to have sex where your mind is in control of do you want to take whatever drug you think makes it better for you. If you stick with the drugs make sure you get lots of sex and fast because that stuff doesn't let people live long!

I mean no disrespect but all the drugs I mentioned were taken by themselves and in moderation. The only drug I take daily is the Vyvanse prescribed to me. I smoke marijuana multiple times daily to combat the side effects of Vyvanse (loss of appetite and trouble sleeping). That being said; I do not condone the consumption of any drug not prescribed by a medical doctor.

To me the orgasm isn't what makes sex fun; it's everything before the orgasm. Which is deliciously ironic in my situation... So, yes, I'd love to be able to have sex and have fun without the use of any substance. The sad part is, though, I wasn't using the drugs for their effects in these situations as much as I was the side effects (loss of libido).

Also, I'm away from my girlfriend at college and I'd like to surprise her when I return with some progress.

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You are in the right place, lots of reading here, I will find a thread to get you started.

https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...treatment.html

[Only19ButMyMindIsOld Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Only19ButMyMindIsOld]

Well I have kegeling down. I'm not sure if I'm reverse kegeling correctly. And I haven't tried edging yet but one hypothetical problem I can see with edging is that I don't think I can get hard without porn while on vyvanse. And from what I've seen is that porn is a no no? I haven't actually tried edging but I'll report back my results when I do. Thanks alot guys.

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Benzo's,opiates, and speed are not exactly aspirin are they. You deluded yourself into thinking they helped you with sex. Did you ever sit and watch paint dry? Boring huh? Well smoke enough weed and the same wall with the wet paint gets fun. It's called deluding your mind from reality. You're not an addict but yet you smoke pot a few times a day to counteract your ADD medicine. You know a doctor can give you a safe appetite stimulent to counteract your ADD medicne but it's not as much fun is it. I guess you won't be applying for any jobs that require a drug test will you? No youngman you must look at the truth about yourself. You want to make a change then it's up to you. I fear for you that in your head the sex goes with the drugs. Not until you're off everything that is harmful will you make true progress and live a great life.

[Only19ButMyMindIsOld Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Only19ButMyMindIsOld]

Benzo's, opiates, and speed are not exactly aspirin are they. You deluded yourself into thinking they helped you with sex.

Benzo's are safe without the combine effect of alcohol. And it's funny you say that opiates aren't exactly Asprin but the only harmful ingredient in hydrocodone tablets, such as Lortabs, Vicodin, etc., is the acetaminophen itself which is the active ingredient in Asprin. A simple cold water extraction to remove the acetaminophen leaves pure, safe hydrocodone behind. As far as speed goes, the only adverse side effect I get is loss of appetite from Vyvanse (lisdexamfetamine). In fact most of those drugs are safer than Asprin. An older friend of mine is suffering from liver problems for taking asprin for her arthritis over a long period of time. Liver failure will almost certainly be her cause of death.

And I didn't delude myself into thinking they helped with sex, they've been scientifically proven to decrease libido and make you last longer. Even if that reduction of libido is a side effect. I don't want to take drugs to be able to have good sex. I've said it already and I'm saying it again.

You're not an addict but yet you smoke pot a few times a day to counteract your ADD medicine. You know a doctor can give you a safe appetite stimulent to counteract your ADD medicne but it's not as much fun is it.

The word addict refers to someone who is physically or mentally dependent on something. Without it, he/she would suffer physical or mental problems. I have no physical or mental dependence on marijuana. Without it my life would continue as normal. Yes I smoke marijuana multiple times per day but that doesn't make me an addict. Correlation does not prove causality. For example; you may check these forums multiple times per day but I guarantee if you stopped you would not suffer some sort of pain or suffering.

The only orexigenic that is approved by the FDA to combat loss of appetite in patients who are otherwise healthy (non-cancer, non-depressed, etc) is dronabinol. Dronabinol is a synthetic molecule of THC, the active cannabinoid in cannabis. Cannabis' dependence rate is almost non existent and has never been a cause of death. On the other hand, dronabinol was reported by the FDA to have been the cause of 4 deaths from 1997-2005. Also, dronabinol effects the body and mind in almost the exact same ways as the THC found in cannabis. In fact, dronabinol gets you high just the same as marijuana and prohibits you from operating a motor vehicle. In 1988 the DEA held hearings on the medical use of the marijuana plant. In his findings of fact and conclusions of law, the chief administrative law judge for the DEA wrote, "Marijuana, in its natural form, is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man."

So if you're asking whether I'd rather take a lab-contructed chemical that imitates an natural herb or the herb itself; I'd rather smoke marijuana.

I really just came here to get help with my penis. I don't need any help choosing what medicine/drug to take or whether or not to smoke pot -- although I appreciate your concern. I do a lot of research before I take any substances. I'm not delusional; I can separate the feeling a drug gives me from reality. So, please, no more talk of drugs or my lifestyle unless it's what I should do to increase sexual performance. If you'd like to talk about drugs we can move to "The Gym" subforum.

[CUSP82 Administrator Admin of the Month Dec 2014PEGym Hero Find all posts View Profile Close CUSP82]

First off I am not judging you. As a person that has been on this planet longer than you ( and most others) I have seen the effects of what you call not harmful and in some semblance of morality I figure it should be pointed out.
You say that you're 19 but you have an "old mind". How many older people take medicine they don't really need? They take it because they need to take it to help out with an illness. You have no illness; you just want to be better in bed.
You say that the medicnes are safe. No drug is safe, espeiclly the way you seem to take it. Do you know what speed does to your heart rate? Do you know that opiates slow down your respiration and reduce gastric motility not allowing you to properly digest what you've consumed, among other things. Do you realize the strong addiction potential all of these "safe " medicines have? The reason you need a prescription to get them is because they are not all that safe and their use must be monitored.
How silly you are to rebuke me by telling me that aspirin is made of acetaminephen. Excuse me but that's what makes up Tylenol. Aspirin happens to be made of acetylsalicylic acid.

Now if someone tells me or you for that matter that you know a 19 year old kid that drinks to the point of getting drunk, does benzo's, opiates, speed and pot, would that be someone you would say is a healthy normal guy?
Look take what you want and do what you want. You come on here spouting how all these illegal drugs makes you better in bed ( or at least in your opinion) and I have to think about the members on here who may just think your way is good and end up killing thmeselves using things they shouldn't be using. Facts are facts.
Now there is information here that will help you but if you don't consider a change in your lifestyle nothing this place could ever teach you will work. It's your life and you can do whatever you like.

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I recreationally use adderall and vyvanse on occasions such as concerts and atlantic city. I almost always rip a bowl because the stimulant is so powerful. I understand your pain but it would probably be best to just do neither of those drugs. If the stimulant is so strong then you probably only need adderall, and 10-15 mg at that (not the 30 mg extended release). Why don't you talk to your doctor to try to get him to lower your prescription?

[Only19ButMyMindIsOld Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Only19ButMyMindIsOld]

First off I am not judging you. As a person that has been on this planet longer than you ( and most others) I have seen the effects of what you call not harmful and in some semblance of morality I figure it should be pointed out.
You say that you're 19 but you have an "old mind". How many older people take medicine they don't really need? They take it because they need to take it to help out with an illness. You have no illness; you just want to be better in bed.
You say that the medicnes are safe. No drug is safe, espeiclly the way you seem to take it. Do you know what speed does to your heart rate? Do you know that opiates slow down your respiration and reduce gastric motility not allowing you to properly digest what you've consumed, among other things. Do you realize the strong addiction potential all of these "safe " medicines have? The reason you need a prescription to get them is because they are not all that safe and their use must be monitored.
How silly you are to rebuke me by telling me that aspirin is made of acetaminephen. Excuse me but that's what makes up Tylenol. Aspirin happens to be made of acetylsalicylic acid.

Now if someone tells me or you for that matter that you know a 19 year old kid that drinks to the point of getting drunk, does benzo's, opiates, speed and pot, would that be someone you would say is a healthy normal guy?
Look take what you want and do what you want. You come on here spouting how all these illegal drugs makes you better in bed ( or at least in your opinion) and I have to think about the members on here who may just think your way is good and end up killing thmeselves using things they shouldn't be using. Facts are facts.
Now there is information here that will help you but if you don't consider a change in your lifestyle nothing this place could ever teach you will work. It's your life and you can do whatever you like.

The name is a lyric from a song. The drugs are safe in moderation and contrary to popular belief most prescription meds abusers are older people. I stated over and over again that I wasn't taking opiates or benzos on a daily basis. Being prescribed an amphetamine stimulant requires (at least where I live) that you get a check up every other month before a refill is written. I'm a healthy person. My blood pressure and heart rate are normal, my weight is steady and average, I exercise daily, and I've quit smoking cigarettes. The addiction potential of all these drugs are less than tobacco. I'm a recovering cigarette smoker and I've never been addicted to any other substance. Addiction usually comes with high-frequency use of a drug over a long period of time. On the acetaminophen subject: My apologies for being mistaken but the point is a lot of over the counter drugs are just as or more harmful than most prescription drugs. Most drugs that are RX are only RX for the sheer fact that they can be used recreationally.

If you've never met healthy young adults that use recreational drugs responsibly then you haven't been to college lol. I've seen both ends of the spectrum from "do it once-ers" to addicts who have completely destroyed their futures. The difference in people that can handle it and people who can't is responsibility. I had a friend who scored a 34/36 on his ACT the first and only time he took it. Smartest person I know to be honest. He ruined his future with always trying to get his fix. He would get his hands on anything and everything from meth to heroin. He ended up taking 28 hits of LSD and tripping for 4 days. He was arrested half way through the trip for resisting arrest and spent some time in jail and a mental health facility. Although LSD is non-lethal (the lowest dependence factor and toxicity of all drugs) and he wasn't at risk of death, he sustained temporary memory loss and he thought he was a child again. He made a full recovery but flunked out of college due to the ordeal. I've taken LSD (3 hits) and had a really great time. I had a friend with me and I stayed away from vehicles and dangers. I planned where and when I was going to do it and got a driver to drive me places if I needed a ride. It was a great day of walking around enjoying a world I'd never seen before. The only difference between my experience on LSD and his is his immaturity and neglect to take necessary precautions. After all that's why it's called a trip; you're supposed to plan trips Now you don't know me, but I hope you can take my word that I'm responsible despite our obvious lifestyle differences. While drugs can be very dangerous, most are not inherently dangerous (with the exception of heroin, methadone, etc. that's just some bad shit). Kinda ties into the whole "Guns don't kill people, people kill people" saying.

Again: I DO NOT CONDONE THE USE OF ANY DRUG OR SUBSTANCE NOT PRESCRIBED TO YOU BY A DOCTOR OF MEDICINE!

Edit: A girl I knew died from a heroin/cocaine overdose, called a "speedball", on February 4th. It's sad to see a 20 year old girl with a future ruin it with irresponsibility. It's crazy to think I was playing Jenga with her 3 weeks prior.

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I recreationally use adderall and vyvanse on occasions such as concerts and atlantic city. I almost always rip a bowl because the stimulant is so powerful. I understand your pain but it would probably be best to just do neither of those drugs. If the stimulant is so strong then you probably only need adderall, and 10-15 mg at that (not the 30 mg extended release). Why don't you talk to your doctor to try to get him to lower your prescription?

Have you taken any ADD meds over an extended period of time? How does Adderol XR compare to Vyvnase in terms of focus? I know the chemical difference but I'd like an opinion. I know you say you only use it recreationally, but since I've been taking it daily, the effect is not as strong and noticeable as it used to be (Vyvanse 50mg). I'd like to find a a solution whether that be to raise dosage or switch brands. I'm not sure that I'd want to raise dosage if possible. I've actually been eating better without pot and even sleeping while on Vyvanse which is weird. I'm thinking of requesting 20mg or 30mg Adderol XR. I know I need an extended release of some kind. Instant release is waaaay to strong and usually leads to a halt in productivity and just a super speeding feeling for about 4 hours. I'd rather have a slow onset of focus that lasts all day (~12 hours).

[Only19ButMyMindIsOld Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Only19ButMyMindIsOld]

Still reading up and trying to understand at this point what is causing my PE. And I think the huge problem for me is involuntarily kegeling. When I was younger I didn't take my time when I masturbated so I ended up teaching my body to kegel when it shouldn't. I can even remember when I was really young being fascinated with the fact I could make my penis move around without using my hands (lol I showed everyone). I think even now when not in a sexual situation I find myself kegeling. Just sitting around at school being tense and kegeling etc I believe is my problem. Even more so now that I'm taking Vyvanse and that keeps my body tense and makes me subconsciously kegel.

To combat this, I've started a routine in which I go from 100% kegel, hold for 5s, then slowly move to reverse kegel 100% and hold for 5s and repeat the whole process in reverse. I've found this is easier to do when I'm standing up and I can feel sort of a swelling when I'm finished (I do about 15 minutes worth). Is the swelling sensation a sign of progress? I find I can hold a regular kegel for upwards of 20s but I think when being stimulated I'm holding it from the very start and It's becoming tired out by the time I need it. Soon, I will also cut porn from my life and begin an edging routine with kegels and R-kegels.

Ps. Is it possible to kegel/ r-kegel too much in one day even if I still plan on leaving the day after for healing/rest? Also, can I edge on my off-days?

Thanks,
19

Edit: Also what is this user referring to?

Might be just my imagination but I've only been doing reverse kegels (as part of my routine) for like a week and already I feel much more relaxed during sex and erections are better (harder), now the erections might be due to the fact that it's been approx. 14 days since I started taking kingpole's five G's but it might also be a combination of the two.