Confusion with Reverse Kegels

[ChaserHUN]

I can't do an RK eihter without flexing my abs a bit. Guess this take practice, also to be able to do a front and back RK sepeatly? Is it just me, or it is a lot harder to hold an RK when you have to your hips? Like during sex? Generally how much time of excercise does it take that IKs go away?

[prisonera]

I think flexing the abs is normal during RK because you can't just grab your BC muscle with hands and stretch it like other muscle groups. When you flex your abs you actually increase the pressure in your pelvis and that pushes the pelvic floor downwards and you get the stretch. And when im standing i flex my abs less than when im lieing down, i think thats because of the gravitation.

[closed166]

Yup, still confused. I can make myself retract into my pelvis and I know that's a regular Kegel. I am still confused on the RK.

[DickerSchwanz]

I always felt like a "reverse kegel" is the ischiocavernous muscle contracting inward which leads to a compression of the corpus cavernosum.
With inward I mean from east and west if the penis would be straight out north looking from above. Or from left and right compressing towards the middle penis line.

I think it's quiet easy to see on the wikipedia page about the muscle.
The wrong labelling and naming in PE circles created this whole confusion imo.

The BC Muscle contraction I think is labelled in PE as a "normal" kegel. The whole REVERSE labelling makes it so confusing. Cause there is no REVERSE action involved at all.

[closed224]

The reverse is opposite of flexing as in relaxing. Same muscles just causing to unflex.

[DickerSchwanz]

The reverse is opposite of flexing as in relaxing. Same muscles just causing to unflex.

Wouldn't it then be stretching? Relaxing for me is: The muscles do nothing at all and are at rest.

Im not sure if in the lingo of PE a reverse kegel is just relaxing. Its a rather intense movement down there that feels opposed to the normal kegel.
The normal kegel is imo just simply engaging the bulbocavernosus muscle. The reverse is engaging the IC muscle.
Its similar to using triceps and biceps. Engaging the triceps stretches the biceps and vice versa.
Its as if gym trainers would label a triceps-exercise a "reverse biceps" which would create similar confusion as we experience with the reverse kegel.

[closed224]

Kind of, except the kegel flexes all muscles in the Pelvic Floor grouping. Do an extremely slow kegel and feel each of the muscles engage at different points throughout the flex. Then do a slow reverse kegel and feel the same from a relaxation perspective. Reverse Kegels are the unflexing. Try to isolate each segment of the muscles.

[DickerSchwanz]

Yes there is this movement of a whole pelvic floor kegel that feels like it engages the whole area. Its especially the BC muscle that I feel through this engaging.
But it sure doesn't engage the IC muscle. It's almost impossible to engage the BC muscle and IC muscle at the same time.(similar to biceps / triceps)

With the reverse kegel I feel clearly the IC muscle engaging/contracting while the BC muscle and others are streched down(towards the floor so to speak).
I can't stretch the bottom muscles without engaging the IC muscle.

Then again I might not gotten yet what is described as a reverse kegel lol.

Edit: I added a post with a pic to an existing thread about the subject. https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ml#post1310622

[Magik_]

Hi,
the pelvic floor stretches link is down. Anyone has a new one?

Also, I'm having a hard time with FRONT reverse kegels. I can do back reverse kegels and actually feel the muscles around my anus expand outwards. But when I put my hand on the penis muscles I can't get it to move at all. I can feel it contract when doing a normal kegel.

[crisss23]

[QUOTE=Pegasus;1224240
It is not possible open the link "pelvic floor stretches" in the end of the first page.Why?
Where can I find the same informations?
Thank you