The post that will piss a lot of people off, but will help a lot of people also.

[JamesMonroe]

(this is my experience and opinion only so please don't get offended or take it as a fact)
I have come to the conclusion that curing prem ejac completely and being a great lover can only be achieved through the constant practice of real sex with a loving, patient and caring woman. Yes, all the techniques found on this site are helpful and correct, but they can only take you so far. It is plain and simple to me that if you wanna master something, you have to have the right tools(this website) but you have to follow that up with a lot of practice with the real thing. You need to get your mind and body used to that specific thing through direct, constant contact.
It's "hands on" experience that gets you the job, not so much the training. Without the experience, you can not trouble shoot so easily and you will have trouble and shoot... your load.
Your hands and porn and edging and ballooning and kegeling can take you VERY, VERY far, but it is not the same as a horny, naked, live, breathing, sexy woman that smells good, has long hair that tickles your body and is making all the right, fast moves with her hands and her horny, impatient, selfish and wet, man-eating crotch-monster. I am typing this because I don't want you guys to take yourselves and your masturbation too seriously. I don't want it to take hours and hours of your life when you can be doing something else more productive like homework, other personal things or spending time with your friends and family. It also is weighing heavy on your emotions and self-esteem. It hurts me to read that people are masturbating 3 times a day and getting really sad when that is not neccessary. The self esteem and confidence and loss of anxiety comes when you get better at sex with your sex partners that you practice with. What I'm trying to say is please don't be so hard on yourself until you find a nice, caring constant sex partner that will work with you. I know this is hard to find, but one day it might happen. Till then, chill out and have fun with it...
Just don't let it control you and your life. Please look for my log/journal and other current posts.
Don't get me wrong...
Thanks again PEGym. You have been my cure and a life changer.
Take care and good luck.

[JamesMonroe]

Btw... I've gone from less than a minute during sex to over an hour.

[JamesMonroe]

I am also aware that some peoples physical situations will differ do please don't get me wrong. I know a lot of factors play into prem ejac so please don't give me a lecture. As I said, this is only MY opinion and experience.
I have have found that the more real sex I have, the longer I last. The gradual getting used to many different highly-arousing sexual positions has been a factor. Thanx to this website, it's members, reverse kegels, ballooning, edging, discovering my PONR and not masturbating to porn has paved the way to a brand new ME.

[JamesMonroe]

Big shout out to Pegasus, Drummer19, Minuteman and all others... Please forgive me and remind me/let me know if I've missed any of you.
:0)

[Padawan787]

Good post, actual real practice and experience is definitely important

Even men without Prem Ejac improve over time, just compare your first few times with your current performances

[Dragon1981]

I agree with that. Good post. The real thing is always better.

[Minuteman]

Well, not to burst any bubbles but it is a very know thing that frequent sex with a loving, patient, understanding and caring partner is the best thing not only for premature ejaculation but for penis enlargement in general. Many if not all techniques described in this forum are just tools (and/or confidence builders) for making that process allot faster, and also bringing the awareness about pelvic balance and arousal control so that a person that doesn't understand the problem knows what to look for.

Most of the techiques here are developed because there where no way for some people to find a loving caring partner but wanted to start to do something about their problem because it was interfering with their confidence and their life in general.

But we agree on one point here, over training and over comiting while solo/single is not something that one should do , just because you can edge/baloon for hours does little or none if you don't actually have sex. But being moderate can and will keep you in some form at least partially used to your own arousal so that it does not come as surprise. Learning and accepting things with a relaxed mindset like you described (chiling out and having fun with it). Same goes for kegel/rk up to one point is usefull but doing more and more reps becomes redundant, finding a good/solid middle ground it the best way.

As for the edging three times a day and stuff, I both agree and disagree, depending on what is your goal. I always make sure to have an presurable edging session (i generally aim for it to be longer than 20 minutes but never pay close attention to the clock rather to my own enjoyment) so that when i finish it it makes me feel energised and refreshed so that i can go and do other stuff with more energetic and positive attitude and it makes my exercises (from jogging/running to other exercises) and other work much more enjoyable. I mean just because I don't have a partner doesn't mean i should deny myself from pleasure. Heck, if i didn't experiment I would never had soft wave orgasms and that is what I would not want to miss. I mean jogging/running after and intense session that ends up with soft wave orgasm or DO or even a good full body orgasm ejaculation is something that really changes perspective of life.

But on the side that I agree, taking in to far and being obsessed and making it to routinized isn't all that good. A good old PI indicators are always there to point out. If you are not enjoying and having fun, if it is more of a chore than it is a pleasure one should reconsider doing it a little less.

Thanks to that I have been able to take more positive and carefree attitude towards life because i have progressed much as a person in almost all areas where before i was just feeling the presure of being single and having premature ejaculation, now I more or less don't care.

But nevertheless, your post is a good point up for people that are taking it to far and are despairing.

[JamesMonroe]

One of the reasons I posted this IS because it isn't a popular topic. There really isn't much talk about how important real sex is on this site. The reality is that most people here, especially young and inexperienced boys, think that these tools are all they need and then they get surprised and depressed when they are not working that well during sex. Then they get all kinds of responses from people for them to try different techniques and exercises, but little to no talk about how getting used to real sex is very important and a huge factor. I feel it is important to bring this out in the open as much as possible and as often as all other responses/posts.

[JamesMonroe]

...Then again, I don't expect those kind of responses from the moderators and administrators cuz they are trying to sell as many pocket pussies as possible.

[GeorgeJetson]

...Then again, I don't expect those kind of responses from the moderators and administrators cuz they are trying to sell as many pocket pussies as possible.

With all due respect James get off your high horse champ. Going back and looking at your earlier posts clearly this site has helped you. Yeah that's cool that you believe and want to express that having real sex is the most important thing but you don't have to go about it sounding like an arrogant cock bag.