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  1. 06-27-2012 #121
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    yeah i try to relate everything involving the bc/pc to athletic training, since it is skeletal muscle
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMonroe View Post
    I now believe in a 100% reverse kegel routine ONLY at the beginning for people that have severe cases of prem ejac to reset/rewire the system and undo the results/consequences of doing regular kegels all the time without reverse kegels..
    I really took to reverse kegels and followed alot of your posts in the beginning of my routine. I believe in this alot also, reverse kegels are really helping me to target and eliminate most of the physical side of Pe for me.
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  3. 07-01-2012 #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by chucknorris View Post
    I really took to reverse kegels and followed alot of your posts in the beginning of my routine. I believe in this alot also, reverse kegels are really helping me to target and eliminate most of the physical side of Pe for me.
    Remember to edge/balloon with good lube, without porn and with a medium to tight grip/rub. You can also watch porn without touching yourself at all for about 3 months, then stop watching it completely.
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  4. 07-05-2012 #124
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    I would appreciate it if someone could advise me on what to do next in my routine/training. I've posted the specifics in this thread: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...ey-so-far.html

    Much love.
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  5. 07-06-2012 #125
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    I have advised starting reverse kegels work.
    Might I suggest guys, if you are giving QT a long answer to do it on his thread and do a summary here . I like the idea of a test case showcaing different advice but don't want to clutter the thread too much.
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  6. 08-31-2012 #126
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    IMAC-- ( This is my first post on here, but I wanted to repay the favor by trying to help out some of you guys)

    I couldn't agree with you more about arousal..

    Just to give you a background: I had been struggling with PE for about 3 years and had built up anxiety towards the subject. I tried herbal pills, creams, prescription drugs, alcohol, marijuana; and literally nothing changed. It wasn't untill I came across this site and realized that my PC/BC muscles were completely out of wack. Because of poor masterbation habits, stress, and anxiety, my PC muscles were literally ALWAYS tense ( I just thought it was normal to feel tense in that area) Anyways, long story short... after daily Kegal/RK excercises, breathing techniques, learning to controll my arousal by using the arousal scale, and becoming more in tune with my bodies reactions to stimuli, my PE has improved dramatically ( I don't even consider myself to really have PE anymore )

    Back to AROUSAL
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    A HUGE part of arousal for me, (and i think this a VERY IMPORTANT tip; learned from an eBook) is to obatin a PHYSICAL erection, as opposed to a Psychological erection. In other words, don't use your thoughts/emotions to serve as a catalyst for your erection.. Let the physical stimulation of touch cause the erection.. I always thought I simply wouldnt be able to get it up without thinking sexual thoughts. What I did not know was that the physical stimulation of your nerves on your penis was all it takes. ( I probably got into believing this notion by constantly masterbating with porn) If you let your erection come from physical stimuli, as opposed to mental stimuli.. NOT ONLY will your arousal be at a lower level from the start of sex, but I find its much easier to control your arousal in general.

    ANOTHER IMPORTANT tip
    about arousal (which I also learned from an eBook ) ... is to be relaxed BEFORE your sexual encounter, not when it begins. Whether its taking deep breaths, doing rk's to relax your PC, or mentally relaxing your mind, it is essential to try and be in a relaxed state BEFORE your encounter.

    THE TIPS I USE:

    I find the most useful thing to do to keep my arousal under control is to combat an involuntary kegal with a soft/long Reverse Kegal (about 2-4 seconds). I do this by expanding my belly while taking a deep inhale and pushing down on the pevil region. Also, SELF TALK is great: " I'm going to go ahead and bring my arousal down a notch"

    What I also found very useful was to every so often do the same soft/long Reverse Kegal. If you feel a slight increase in arousal, simply RK and remind your body to keep your PC region RELAXED. This gives me much greater awareness on just how relaxed my PC muscles really are and also keeps them in check. I found that there are times when I think I'm completely relaxed, yet my but cheeks are actually tightening; creating tension in these muscles.. I can't tell you how many times I thought my PC muscles were completely relaxed, yet I was tense in certain areas... Simply take a deep breath with a soft RK (expanding your belly simultaneaously), and on your exhale.. let your bellly sink along with your pelvic region.

    SUPPLEMENTS: A little off topic-- But I found some very useful information on healthy supplements that are great for mainting a balanced body, both physically and mentally.

    L- Methionine : ( Found this at VitaminWorld; Whole foods carries it too, and im sure many other health stores) This supplement helps with the breakdown of histamine in your blood and serves as an essential amino acid. I've heard some GREAT success stories with this supplement on other forums. Histamine can also play a HUGE factor in the overall state of your muscles. Too much histamine = tenser muscles.( I take about 1500mg/day).. They come in 500mg pills normally. I found out that my blood levels were high in histamine; causing me to sweat more, be anxious, loose concentraion, tense my muscles easier, and so on. You should look into Histamine; it can have a profound effect on the body and arousal.

    Magnesium: I found that i was not getting enough Magnesium in my daily diet. Magnesium is essential for blood flow and carrying essential nutrients throughout the body. It is also said that overall, it leaves the body feeling more relaxed. I take 500mg daily.

    Anti-Histamine: I take an Anti-Histamine every night, before I go to bed. These can be obtained OTC ( Zyrtec, Allegra, etc). Some people who are extremely high in histamine even take these before sex. I've also heard great success stories by taking an anti-histamine daily.

    I STRONGLY BELIEVE that almost all cases of PE can be overcome in a natural/hollistic way. It may take more time for others, and will most certainly require your dedication, but stick to your exercises ( Kegals/RK's , Breathing Technqiues, arousal control) and you will only progress.

    Remember: CONFIDENCE is KEY. .....You WILL overcome this.
    I definitely encourage you guys to reserach histamine and its symptoms to see if your blood levels are high in this chemical.

    Thanks everyone. I hope this post had some beneficial use to you.


    -Eric 1413
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    THis thread was long buried a post of mine in it was recently liked . It has historic value in that you can see at least some of the development of current thought . It also has value in understanding the thought process behind method for those that wish to dig deeper . Many of these coaches mentioned on this thread are no longer onsite which is a pity we should all appreciate their input.
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    You will see this came up a lot during coach discussions . It seems a hard process to grasp but here i have explained it as well as i can .

    As i stated earlier in the thread the feel may be more important than the science of it.

    https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...e-kegel-5.html
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    To contribute a little i also agree with most posters in that RKs are the silver bullet against PE. The trouble i used to have is that I wasn't ever able to perform one successfully. No matter how hard i tried to "get it", it just felt like all the RKs in the world didn't have an effect. Unfortunately there was a reason for this. As a gym head I had an extremely tight PF with a good sprinkle of APT, and what i have discovered over the years is that APT and the position of your pelvis has a direct link to how your pelvic floor behaves and the ability to RK. To see the full explanation see my thread on it but jist of it was that until i retracted my spine into a neutral position, i wasn't able to RK at all.... But over time as i've put more effort into my glute power, fixing my APT and increasing my squats, i have inadvertandly rediscovered that i am now able to quite easily (most of the time) perform an RK and eventually "drop" my pelvic floor... and just like that PE was gone.
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    There is a body of thought that geting the pf to the point of being able to effectively rk can be an important factor.

    https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...tml?highlight=
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