Premature ejaculation coaches corner.

[imac]

OK so here are my views on reverse kegels, I'll try and make them as clear as possible.

I suppose I should start with a brief history of how I learned them. Well put simply I wanted to enjoy sex for as long as possible. I didn't know about DO's or MMO at the time I thought that a man could only orgasm one way (ejaculation) while a woman has many ways to orgasm, so I wanted to enjoy the anticipation of my orgasm for as long as possible so I started doing reverse kegels (specifically front reverse kegels) thou I didn't know them by that name to begin with, I just thought of them as something I did to extend my pleasure.

It wasn't until years later that discovered the kegel exercise to strengthen and tone the muscles of your pelvic floor and I started to do them that I realised that what I'd being doing for years must be the opposite of a kegel because I wasn't contracting the muscles like it said to do in a kegel, instead I was keeping them relaxed by pushing them down or out with differing degrees of force depending on the situation. As I studied more about the pelvic floor and how it's constructed I came to the conclusion that a reverse kegels could only be a stretch of the muscles.

The reason that I put emphasis on learning to isolate by doing front reverse kegels is because that's how I learned. When I started having sex if there was any tension in my pelvic floor it was always in the front half and that made my penis more sensitive to I learned to actively relax that area if the sensations got so intense that just relaxing the area wasn't enough then I would use my diaphragm to exert the pressure needed to stretch the muscles into a relaxed state so that the intensity would level off once more. It was when I learned about kegels and the pelvic floor that I learned why the greatest tension was always in the front half of my pelvic floor. It was because of the BC muscle that wraps around the inner part of the penis and when it gets tight and traps blood in your penis it makes it more sensitive and when it starts to spasm involuntary then it can quickly take you to the PONR. That's why I recommend to guys that have Pre e to learn to isolate their BC muscle with a front reverse kegel.

So basically my progression was to do front reverse kegels during sex - then kegels and front reverse kegels as a routine - then a four way balanced routine of front and back kegels and front and back reverse kegels.

[Pegasus]

Now I have been critical of the emphasis you place on having a supportive girlfriend, as I feel this is not allways avaiaible.

Again this is a difference of emphasis as I do feel it is an advantage. I understand that you feel this is like a boxer has to get in the ring and have bouts and that work in the gym will only take you so far?

[Pegasus]

OK so here are my views on reverse kegels, I'll try and make them as clear as possible.

I suppose I should start with a brief history of how I learned them. Well put simply I wanted to enjoy sex for as long as possible. I didn't know about DO's or MMO at the time I thought that a man could only orgasm one way (ejaculation) while a woman has many ways to orgasm, so I wanted to enjoy the anticipation of my orgasm for as long as possible so I started doing reverse kegels (specifically front reverse kegels) thou I didn't know them by that name to begin with, I just thought of them as something I did to extend my pleasure.

It wasn't until years later that discovered the kegel exercise to strengthen and tone the muscles of your pelvic floor and I started to do them that I realised that what I'd being doing for years must be the opposite of a kegel because I wasn't contracting the muscles like it said to do in a kegel, instead I was keeping them relaxed by pushing them down or out with differing degrees of force depending on the situation. As I studied more about the pelvic floor and how it's constructed I came to the conclusion that a reverse kegels could only be a stretch of the muscles.

The reason that I put emphasis on learning to isolate by doing front reverse kegels is because that's how I learned. When I started having sex if there was any tension in my pelvic floor it was always in the front half and that made my penis more sensitive to I learned to actively relax that area if the sensations got so intense that just relaxing the area wasn't enough then I would use my diaphragm to exert the pressure needed to stretch the muscles into a relaxed state so that the intensity would level off once more. It was when I learned about kegels and the pelvic floor that I learned why the greatest tension was always in the front half of my pelvic floor. It was because of the BC muscle that wraps around the inner part of the penis and when it gets tight and traps blood in your penis it makes it more sensitive and when it starts to spasm involuntary then it can quickly take you to the PONR. That's why I recommend to guys that have Pre e to learn to isolate their BC muscle with a front reverse kegel.

So basically my progression was to do front reverse kegels during sex - then kegels and front reverse kegels as a routine - then a four way balanced routine of front and back kegels and front and back reverse kegels.

Ok so again we are moving to balance and this time we are also starting with reverse kegels ,but geting more detailed as you feel front reverse is the most important starting point? You also mention the bracing effect to increase the effect of k/rk which hasn't been mentioned in this thresd till now . i remember talking with Minuteman long ago about this , my conclusion at the end of our discussions was it is good to be able to do isolated or braced as the situation warrants. do you feel the ability ro front reverse kegel can be built in a reasonable timeframe?

[imac]

Having a supportive girlfriend is a good thing to have period, but like you say that's not always an option. There's plenty of guys out there with supportive girlfriend who still suffer from Pre e that's why I think the practice you get from edging is so important.

To use your boxer analogy, If a boxer doesn't practice for a fight he's going to get knocked the fuck out.

[Pegasus]

So the question becomes how much does the boxer need to be in the gym and hoe many fights does he need . That is, can a guy with pre e do enough work in the gym that stray hook ups will do it for him?

[imac]

Ok so again we are moving to balance and this time we are also starting with reverse kegels ,but geting more detailed as you feel front reverse is the most important starting point? You also mention the bracing effect to increase the effect of k/rk which hasn't been mentioned in this thresd till now . i remember talking with Minuteman long ago about this , my conclusion at the end of our discussions was it is good to be able to do isolated or braced as the situation warrants. do you feel the ability ro front reverse kegel can be built in a reasonable timeframe?

For guys who have Pre e I feel that's the best starting point, also it's good for guys who don't have Pre e and who can't yet DO as a way of increasing the anticipation of their own orgasm.

Yeah I think the ability to front reverse kegels can be achieved in a reasonable time frame. For example when I started I was only relaxing the front area of my pelvic floor but within a couple of weeks I had developed good enough control to apply different amounts of pressure to the stretch.
I'm not saying everyone will be able to isolate as easily and quickly as I did because of course everyone's different but if they practice it they will develop isolation at a good pace.

[Pegasus]

Oh dear I have had such issues teaching rk . Part of the problem is that I learnt it decades ago and it just seems natural to me.
Even the most basic rk seems to fustrate many, all the time I am thinking for god sake you do one every time you piss.

[imac]

So the question becomes how much does the boxer need to be in the gym and hoe many fights does he need . That is, can a guy with pre e do enough work in the gym that stray hook ups will do it for him?

Hmm... That's a tough one. I've never really been a fan of one night stands, I've always felt that sex was better when it's with someone I actually like and want to see again.

But I guess if a guys with a girl he knows he's not going to see again then that could take some pressure of him and help him relax.

As to how much training a boxer needs before a fight. I guess that would depend on the boxer. I don't think that we'll find one formula that we can apply to everyone, a lot of it has to do with the individual and their particular situation.

[imac]

Oh dear I have had such issues teaching rk . Part of the problem is that I learnt it decades ago and it just seems natural to me.
Even the most basic rk seems to fustrate many, all the time I am thinking for god sake you do one every time you piss.

I know exactly what you mean it feels natural to me to. Some of the question that people ask at times, the answers seem so obvious to me that sometimes I feel like screaming.

[Pegasus]

I know exactly what you mean it feels natural to me to. Some of the question that people ask at times, the answers seem so obvious to me that sometimes I feel like screaming.

Give it another year or 2!!