The Death Grip

**JamesMonroe** · 06-29-2012

Been reading a lot about guys saying they last long in bed and have delayed ejac because they masturbated for a long time with a very tight grip and no lube and watching porn. I know it's a bad thing to do all these things, but is there anything there that might help some of us? Is intense/tight mastirbation helpful to be able to handle soft, looser vaginas? what about them not using lube? I read it may desensitize you a bit because of the skin to skin contact, but as far as I know... lube is better because it feels more like a wet vagina. I know these things are not recommended, but I'd like to hear your thoughts.... is everyone affected differently?
Should we edge with a tighter grip and try to get used to that?

**JamesMonroe** · 06-29-2012

I do want to make it clear though... Porn is bad for premature ejaculation, erections and a proper sex life. It harmed me and many others. Many of us were cured by stopping masturbation to porn. Maybe edging with more/progressive intensity and a tighter grip WITH lube and NO porn is a good plan...

**Pegasus** · 06-29-2012

I had felayed ejac and I did use a tight grip, be carefull what you wish for.

**JamesMonroe** · 06-29-2012

Pegasus....
Glad you got over it.... but does this mean if people do this, they might last longer in bed?
Were you masturbating dry or wet?
This is getting interesting....
Maybe Some of us should give it a shot for a bit as a test....

Here is an article:

How to cure masturbation death grip

**JamesMonroe** · 06-29-2012

And now that I think about it Pegasus.... When I had prem ejac for a whole year without a gf watching porn without lube, I was using a very light grip. I have always used a light grip. Maybe a vagina was tighter than that when i started having sex, causing part of my prem ejac problem. Maybe people should increase the grip a bit and try to get used to that. I am going to edge again for a while with baby oil, no porn and a fairly tight grip and test myself with real sex. I will also completely stop masturbating to porn again and also start to do some more rev/reg kegels. I found myself addicted to masturbating quickly to porn again and i think I should stop before i get negative effects again. I think this might explain why missionary position isn't as arousing as doggy style and or anal sex because there is is a tighter pressure in the latter 2. That's why getting used to dodgy for me has helped to make the other positions easier. Have I tapped into something very important here that not many people talk about? I see there might be that connection between you having deleyed ejac and me having prem ejac with a light grip. Maybe all we have to do is find the middle ground and just increase out grips during edging a bit more! I'll let you guys know how that goes.....

**Pegasus** · 06-29-2012

dry..

**JamesMonroe** · 06-29-2012

How do you masturbate with a tight grip and NO lube? Thats why I had to have a light grip. I guess maybe you are not doing full strokes? We're you mainly rubbing the head? I found a way to masturbate with a harder grip but it's mainly like a twisting of mostly the head. Is that what you did? Also, it must be different for guys that all of the sudden have real sex with and without condoms. Would the reaction depend on whether they were using lube or not?

**JamesMonroe** · 06-29-2012

I would assume that most guys that masturbate dry to porn use condoms when they finally have sex. That would mean that they went from dry to dry so they are used to it. So... if you were to masturbate with a tight grip and with lube, as soon as you use a condom and have real sex, then it's not as arousing because with a condom you don't feel the arousing wetness.

**JamesMonroe** · 06-30-2012

I edged tonight with the death grip and baby oil and concentration on the penis head while I thrusted my hips forwards and backwards. WOW... that was intense! It took me back to my crazy experimental edging/ballooning days! It was pretty much my old python pressure-type technique/stroke.
I can see very easily how getting used to this constant type stimulation/edging could make it hard to ejaculate during sex. I did it without porn and it was still so intense that I ejaculated in about 10 minutes. I'm gonna keep trying it without porn and see if it helps sex with my gf. I'm already very excited and hopeful about this. Great thing about this is that I was doing hard reverse kegels at the same time so it's also a great workout! I have a feeling that if I keep this up and still do regular kegels once in a while, it will be the perfect mix. I read that PumpSon! was also experimenting with a tight grip and lube with great results. He said he felt he was getting closer to deleyed ejac during edging.
I know Pegasus.... this is sounding bad to you, but don't worry... I won't let it get to that extent and I think I might be onto something great here in the form of exercises outside of sex!