Numbing after the 20 minute mark during edging

[buttersketch Member Find all posts View Profile Close buttersketch]

Hello!

Alright, I would like to post an update on the edging session I just had and what I got out of it!

I was reading the interesting things James M was writing about the death grip and its relation to DE, and how your body gets used to a certain kind of stimulus, and I believe that one of the reasons I have PreE is due to masturbating to porn using a very light grip and getting my system used to going off real quick!

So i decided to start the ByggD program, as of today, and do that daily for 1 month! ok, I will have breaks every 3 days. lol

Back to topic, so I started with the arousal control and I have to say it worked extremely well! I am bewildered! It usually takes me 3 hard strokes to ejaculate using lube. I would usually have a mind frame of testing myself into seeing how long I would last on the hard strokes. It felt like I was almost always challenging myself into lasting longer rather than focusing on controlling myself and my arousal level and take command of it.

After reading ByggDs (for the 5^th time, but this time DECIDING TO CONTROL MYSELF AND DO THIS DAILY FOR THE MONTH) relation to NLP, arousal control, positive thoughts I decided to control it, not judge myself on how long I can perform but rather on how much I try to control it.

I started slowly, in a dark room, on my bed, and started rating my arousal as I started imagining things in my head. The first 10 minutes were real slow, and subtle movements, where I would tell myself NOW LOWER YOUR AROUSAL and I AM IN FUCKING CONTROL OF THIS and I WILL LAST FOREVER IN BED and ME LEARNING THIS IS SO MUCH FUN AND IT IS AS GOOD AS BEING ABLE TO LAST LONG ( Last saying is based on a video I saw by some guy called owen cook, I can PM you the link if interested, it is a 50 minute video about success, has nothing to do with PreE but I was able to relate).

When I find myself at level 9, I start ballooning and lower it to level 7, and then continue. The interesting thing happened when I reached the 20 minute mark. My penis became numb! I can do whatever the hell I wanted! I did the death grip, I did thrusting movements in missionary mode, I did thrusting movements in doggy style, I did really fast pumps with a fucking tight grip, which would usually let me ejaculate in 1 second. I did it all, and when I did reach the PONR, I ballooned for 20 seconds and then continued again with the thrusting. I finished in 30 minutes without ejaculating because my dick was too numb! I haven’t felt this in ages. The numbness lasted for 10 more minutes after that.

Did anyone else ever experience a similar numbness? Does your dick become less sensitive with time as you edge more often? Would I fuck my dick up if I death grip masturbate with full thrusts and getting my dick super numb? Your thoughts would be appreciated.

[Edge of Glory Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Edge of Glory]

I definitely am with you on the numbness. When I edge, it creeps up within 10-30 minutes. This usually means I need to go faster/harder, concentrate more, and/or kegel frequently to keep the erection strong. Fortunately, I still have a very sensitive glans (maybe due to being uncircumcised?) and I can cum easily even when numb. It's kind of strange, but I can't explain it better.

I did notice my numbness decreased when I edged less frequently (i.e. once every 3 days instead of every day) and when I committed to not ejaculating. These may work for you. Also, the death grip is an important factor. Lately, I've avoided the numbness a lot by using a lighter grip (which is more similar to most vaginas anyways) and stroking less intensely.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

Glad to see you're also using my "ballooning at PONR technique" to keep stimulation going instead of the start and stop method.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

Also.... it sounds like basic body workings when you get numb. If you rub any part of your body, that spot will get numb after a while. Do it to your finger or arm.... Does'nt the same thing happen?
I assume guys that have unprotected sex all the time with tight vaginas get the best practice.

[QuickTrigger Member Find all posts View Profile Close QuickTrigger]

While my penis doesn't quite go numb, I also have noticed a decreased sensitivity after the 25/30 minute mark of edging. In other words, if I can edge for 25/30 minutes, approach PONR but not cross over the threshold, then the following 20 minutes is one of decreased sensitivity where I can stroke away like a madman.

I've been trying to incorporate the death grip ever since the thread was started but, frankly, the death grip doesn't feel good to me.

Question is: how does one incorporate this knowledge into actual sex? Do we start off super slow (with the start-stop) technique for the first 20minutes? Do we extend the foreplay for longer periods?

[buttersketch Member Find all posts View Profile Close buttersketch]

The goal for me here is to have that insensitive start to my edging, because I am usually very sensitive in the beginning. I think I can reprogram myself into starting off less sensitive, and that is how I used to be. I want to get back to that. I am also going to test this with real sex, going slow, and then lowering arousal at PONR consciously a couple of times until my penis numbs down into a less sensitive state.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

I read somewhere that the penis has to very slowly get used to the sudden change of feeling once it encounters a vagina. They said to rub penis head around the outside of vagina for a while and put tip in and out a bit and stuff like that for a while before entering slowly and doing very slow strokes. they say this is crucial to get over the first phase and onto the next. Makes sense. Give it a shot.

[QuickTrigger Member Find all posts View Profile Close QuickTrigger]

There is a different thread floating around the board that might help explain the mechanism behind this current thread: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...riment%5D.html . In that thread, they speculate that the release of prolactin reduces one's arousal level. If this is possible, it opens up all sorts of possibilities.

Prolactin may be responsible for this decrease in sensitivity/arousal midway through edging.

For instance--and may I immediately add the caveat that this is purely abstract speculation on my part--this may give us a new form of edging. What if we've been edging all wrong? Traditionally the point of edging is to delay the PONR. But if reaching the PONR releases Prolactin, and thereby lowers our arousal level, maybe we should try to reach PONR as quickly as possible, and multiple times, so that we can reduce our arousal level by releasing prolactin. I will personally start experimenting with this during my edging sessions.

[JamesMonroe Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JamesMonroe]

There is a different thread floating around the board that might help explain the mechanism behind this current thread: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...riment%5D.html . In that thread, they speculate that the release of prolactin reduces one's arousal level. If this is possible, it opens up all sorts of possibilities.

Prolactin may be responsible for this decrease in sensitivity/arousal midway through edging.

For instance--and may I immediately add the caveat that this is purely abstract speculation on my part--this may give us a new form of edging. What if we've been edging all wrong? Traditionally the point of edging is to delay the PONR. But if reaching the PONR releases Prolactin, and thereby lowers our arousal level, maybe we should try to reach PONR as quickly as possible, and multiple times, so that we can reduce our arousal level by releasing prolactin. I will personally start experimenting with this during my edging sessions.

Interesting, but DURING SEX, doesn't getting more and more PONR's get you more more and more sensitive and closer to ejac? For me, the longer I go, I get more and more sensitive until I can't pump one more time without ejac, DURING SEX.
Maybe it's the skin on skin rubbing during edging that causes the numbing for you guys. (most of you edge without lubrication)

[Chromey Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chromey]

What do you guys do at this point during edging? I also experience less sensitivity after a certain amount of time.

At this point during edging I take my palm and provide maximum stimulation to the head by rubbing the crap out of it in a circular motion. I get no where near PONR and stop the session after 10-15 min of using my palm.

After 2.5-3 weeks I have consistantly lasted 20+ min during sex with almost non stop stroking.

[Pegasus AdministratorPE Gym EditorPEGym Hero ☺ Admin of the Month Mar 2015 Find all posts View Profile Close Pegasus]

Ok first mmo makes this 20 min thing irrevelant anyway. On another note though is the 20 min thing just fully time dependent or does it require you to near the ponr? I suggest it is time dependent only.

[Chromey Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chromey]

Ok first mmo makes this 20 min thing irrevelant anyway. On another note though is the 20 min thing just fully time dependent or does it require you to near the ponr? I suggest it is time dependent only.

Well for me, I've never reached PONR while edging as long as I'm not viewing porn. As for the time, Idk lol. I always set my alarm for 20 min and by the time it goes off I already have a reduction in sensitivity. At this point I do all types of things to my unit.

[Chromey Junior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Chromey]

*meant to say I don't reach PONR easily.

[QuickTrigger Member Find all posts View Profile Close QuickTrigger]

Ok first mmo makes this 20 min thing irrevelant anyway. On another note though is the 20 min thing just fully time dependent or does it require you to near the ponr? I suggest it is time dependent only.

I have been experimenting with this for the past week during my edging sessions. My own observations have led to the conclusion that the decreased sensitivity is a function of approaching PONR and then dropping back down, rather than it being time dependent. I have observed that if I reach an arousal level (AL) of 9.5 or higher, and then back down to a 5/6, it then becomes harder to get back to that 9.5. However, if I get up to 9.5 and then drop only to 7 (ie, when stroking is still highly pleasurable), then my sensitivity is increased.

Therefore, my own tentative conclusions based off of a week of edging are that approaching PONR and then dropping way back down to level 5 help decrease sensitivity. I suspect that this is due to the body's release of prolactin: a topic briefly discussed in this thread: https://www.pegym.com/forums/prematu...xperiment.html It is also possible that my own experiences are anomalous and the exception to the standard experience of everyone else.

That said, the two possibilities are not mutually exclusive. It doesn't have to be one or the other. It is also possible that 20minutes of stroking, regardless of AL, will also desensitize the penis.

[closed147 Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close closed147]

For some reason I get numb when I edge for like 25 minutes also. Is this normal?