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    Hey guys. I have been around for a couple weeks, after having a very disappointing first time - I came within 30 seconds, so sad. For the past 2 weeks I have managed to only Reverse Kegel and Edge, cuming only every 3 or 4 days, no lub.

    My first week of Edging was fine (see the log below), I included a tighter grip on the middle of it; then I took 4 days off and when tried again, I couldn't last 7 minutes. The day after however was ok, I Edged for 15 minutes before first PONR. I took one week off, not because I wanted to, and then Edged the day before yesterday and yesterday. The day before yesterday, after giving my gf very intense masturbation, I could Edge for 22 minutes before first porn. So I Reverse Kegeled, very little cum came out, but I continued Edging and lasted another 9 minutes, which is great, because usually my second round does not take that long. HOWEVER, last nights session I lasted 2 minutes only before first PONR. WTF? So I weak up at morning and try edging again, lasting 12 minutes, which isn't great but ok. Anyway, I could last only 2 minites on the second round however.

    I took notes on some sessions and I have now decided to keep a log in here, cause Edging seems very instable so I do need opinions... Here we go.


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    - 07.15.12 - I couldn't edge with all 4 fingers, it was too intense. So I used 3 fingers only with short shaft-based strokes, lasted 7 minutes before first PONR, then another 2 and I gave up. Notice several involuntary kegels.

    - 07.16.12 - Tried longer strokes with only 3 fingers, some 4 fingers strokes sometimes. Was able to last 10 minutes, then Kegeled hard and lasted another 2.

    - 07.17.12 - Feel more confortable with the exercise, now I am able to use all 4 fingers to stroke my shaft. Lasted 10 minutes before first PONR and another 2 minutes before second then I quit. I am now more aware of the involuntary kegels that appears when approaching PONR.

    - 07.18.12 - BEST SESSION - It was very late night, after having a big mac and a Heineken I decided to do some Reverse Kegels and then Edge. Tried a new exercise: the first 5 minutes I did 10 shaft strokes and 1 longer one including glans. It was too much for me so I got back to only shaft strokes and lasted for 23 minutes. I felt PONR close many many times, but was able to fight it somehow, maybe due to being sleepy. So I edged for more 16 minutes before second PONR... I managed to continue till the involuntary kegels were almost hitting me in the face then did a HARD KEGEL, a little cum splited but it was very intense orgasm feeling... maybe a newbie D.O.? Anyway, I felt a mild PORN almost the entire sessions, almost like those tickles. WTF?

    (I read here that eating a lot makes your low abs tense so you pelvic muscles gets relaxed. That may have been the case).







    MarcusHa
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    Last edited by MarcusHa; 08-18-2012, 02:02 PM.

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    - 07. 19/20/21 .12 - those sessions went fine, I could stimulate myself with all 4 fingers for around 12-15 minutes before first PONR but the second one came really fast. Included tighter grip on my sessions due to Monroe's ideas.


    TOOK 4 DAYS OFF


    - 07.26.12 - Edged for only 7 minutes before first PONR and 2 minutes before second.

    - 07.27.12 - Edged for 15 minutes before first PONR and 2 minutes before second PONR, when I ejaculated.


    TOOK 7 DAYS OFF


    - 08.04.12 - After being with my gf and stimulating her on the stairs for 25 minutes, I went home. It was late but I was able to finally Edge again. I could stroke my shaft for 22 minutes before first PONR, when I did a long reverse kegel, with a little cum coming out. The I continued edging for another 9 minutes. Dont know why I lasted so long, maybe because I was sleepy or due to my reverse kegel exercises earlier that day.

    - 08.05.12 - Could Edge only for only 2 minutes before 1st PONR and gave up. I tried to sleep but couldnt. So after 20 minutes I decided to try again, but PONR came again within 2 minutes. Don't know why I was so bad on that session. Maybe because I reverse kegeled too much during the day, which caused my pelvic floor to be weak or stressed? Very disappointing.

    - 08.06.12 -
    That was some hours ago. I weak up and tried to Edge, lasting for around 10 minutes before first PONR, when I did a reverse kegel and some cum came out. Waited 30 seconds and tried again, but only lasted 2 minutes or less and decided to ejaculate. So I kegeled hard and continued stroking, what caused me to cum. Maybe my body was willing to cum. or maybe I just Reverse Kegeled too much yesterday?



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    -> I still can't stimulate my glans. Doing long full strokes would cause me to cum within a few minutes. But including glans is my aim. Any tips?

    -> During those sessions I learned a lot. However, that tickle sensation, which feels like a mild PONR, seems to be around quite often. What do you guys think?

    -> I find that keeping penis on the vertical simulates sex better, so I am trying to include this in my sessions. It sure makes it harder to keep PONR away. (with penis on vertical I mean maintaining a 90o angle between penis and your body)

    -> Also another way of making Edging more intense is doing not only up and down movements (strokes), but front and back too, which results in a 4 way exercise. It feels like sex and is more stimulating.







    MarcusHa
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    Last edited by MarcusHa; 08-18-2012, 02:01 PM.

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    • #3
      - 08-07-12 - After reverse kegeling all day long, I decided do Edge before going to sleep and lasted only 5 minutes before first PONR. I could feel that funny sensation after 30 seconds of stroking, that tickles I referred to on the last post.

      Also, I notice that a slightly kegel every time I stroke my penis. =/
      WHAT SHOULD I DO?

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      • #4
        How is your out of sex kegel/rk routine going?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pegasus View Post
          How is your out of sex kegel/rk routine going?
          Well, I manage to only RK any time I feel confortable. 10 second holds followed by 10 sec resting.

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          • #6
            - 08-10-12 - I have decided not to Reverse Kegel for the past couple days since I was lasting very short on Edging.

            So today I tried to Edge again and lasted only 3 minutes before first PONR.

            Anyone, please? What's going on with me?
            MarcusHa
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            Last edited by MarcusHa; 08-14-2012, 03:39 PM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MarcusHa View Post
              - 08-10-12 - I have decided to not Reverse Kegel for the past couple days since I was lasting very shortly on Edging.

              So today I tried to Edge again and lasted only 3 minutes before my first PONR.

              Anyone, please? What's going on with me?
              Well in my experience I thought that rking
              My log of greatness
              https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...gress-log.html

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              • #8
                Originally posted by MarcusHa View Post
                - 08-10-12 - I have decided to not Reverse Kegel for the past couple days since I was lasting very shortly on Edging.

                So today I tried to Edge again and lasted only 3 minutes before my first PONR.

                Anyone, please? What's going on with me?
                Well in my experience I thought that rking was bad for lasting. I use the kegel to last longer. Thought that RKing helped you have a harder orgasm. Maybe give this a try...?
                My log of greatness
                https://www.pegym.com/forums/progres...gress-log.html

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                • #9
                  Came back with RKs, even if not intensely doing, trying to focus on isolating - quite hard task.


                  - 08-12-2012 - Woke up in the middle of the night and decided to Edge. Started slow, with only 3 fingers then all 4, and was not feeling the tickles as in previous sessions. First PONR aproachin with 15min, but not reached - decided just to stop for a minute or so. Started stroking again, slow and gradual, still no tickles and reached PORN within anothet 6min, when did a strong kegel to fight spasms then rested for a minute or so. The third PONR came after about 8min.



                  Erection was not very good on the second and third parts of the session. Grip was maintained tight with a 90o angle. Why no tickles? No idea.

                  It was a good session, hope I am back on track. Maybe it went good due to using 3 fingers on the begining and when feeling dangerously aroused. Also by being more slow than usual.

                  QUESTION: when feeling that PONR is close, should I keep the rythm and level of stimulation or should I continue to stimulate with less intensity? For ex, when PORN is close, should I use only 3 fingers to stroke in stead of all 4 around my penis?
                  MarcusHa
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                  Last edited by MarcusHa; 08-18-2012, 02:07 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Marcus when your edging are you having a lot of thoughts and asking questions of yourself about how you're doing, about your erection etc? This can be very detrimental to your performance.

                    When you can feel the PONR closing in, try maintaining stimulation but slowing down in order to maintain your arousal level for as long as possible before you have to stop.

                    Also try and get a strict RK routine going. 10 second holds are good, but do 10 or 15 per day. As you progress, you'll notice that you can hold them for longer. When you can, increase the number of seconds for each hold as you improve. Remember, you've barely been doing this a month! It may take a bit longer before you see real gains.
                    rko's Log

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                    • #11
                      Thanks rko!

                      I have decided to Reverse Kegel fewer times a day and also Kegel a little bit.


                      - 08-15-2012 - Edging session today was very good, I lasted 29 minutes before first PONR, even though stimulation intensity varied a lot. First I did a 10 sec Kegel to fight the spasms and then a 45 sec RK. (One thing I noticed was that erection wasn't full very often, so I had to use a less tighter grip in order to refill my pennis with blood. When PONR was approaching, however, erection got quite strong. What about it?)

                      Second PONR came within 7 minutes, finished with ejaculation, as intended. Glans stimulation is still impossible, but I use it sometimes do get harder erection.
                      MarcusHa
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                      Last edited by MarcusHa; 08-18-2012, 02:07 PM.

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                      • #12
                        I started to take 37,5mg of Venlafaxine for my chronic headache treatment, I know it affects my issue in a good way, but I dread it will make my training not useful. Anyone has a clue? I'm taking it one time a day at morning and I may have noticed a change already.


                        - 08-18-2012 - The session went good today. Before taking the pill, at morning, I masturbated for 10 minutes but did not reach PONR because I was disturbed. Then a couple hours later I was alone at home, so decided to Edge. I had taken 37,5mg of Venlafaxine 25 minutes before that, but didnt had the intention of Edging at that time.

                        First PONR came within 13min, when after Kegeling hard I did a set of Kegels and RKs before starting to stroke again. Second PONR came with 10min, I repeated the Kegel followed by the set of Kegels and RKs, because it seamed to work - even if it caused a little cum or maybe precum to come out. Then I finally stroked for 16min when I decided to ejaculate, but I had intensified stimulation, otherwise I could have gone for maybe 20 minutes... Erection was not complete most of the time, I had to make longer strokes in order to increase it. Maybe it means that I am able to move a little bit up from now on. I still can not make more than 7-14 long glans-including strokes without danger, however.



                        I don't know if this improvement (and with improvement I mean being able to last longer after a first PONR) is due to the medicine I am taking. As I said, it is just the 4th day. Also, it is considered a low dosage and studies did not prove its efficiency as a PreE medicine. However, I am quite concerned about my Edging. The doctor said I should take this for 3 months to expect good treatment results. Will Edging be useless during this time?
                        MarcusHa
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                        Last edited by MarcusHa; 08-18-2012, 01:51 PM.

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                        • #13
                          - 08-24-12 - First and second PONR came within 10 minutes. I like it, I feel as I am able to lower arousal more effectively now. Yesterday my gf was giving me a blowjob and I felt arousal going up too fast, tried RK but did not work. So I tried a regular Kegel and it worked.

                          Today she gave me another blowjob and I didnt feel it was so stimulating. I guess RK routing is starting to give me some return.

                          Or maybe it is just the 37,5mg of Venlafaxine I am taking for my chronic headache... WHO KNOWS?

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                          • #14
                            - 08-29-12 - Edged for 13 minutes and could lower high arousal levels several times before FIRST and only PONR, because I decided to cum... I intensified stimulation to see how long my Reverse Kegel could go. It is funny how strong it is getting. I dont know if it is due to the medicine I am taking or due to the training, but I really can make that nice feeling of PONR coming in your penis go away with RK...

                            ANY IDEAS??? PLEASE?

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                            • #15
                              - 09-01-12 and 09-01-12 - HAD SEX SATURDAY NIGHT and SUNDAY AFTERNOON (very good experience)
                              Well, I can say I feel extremely happy about what happened on those two days. My girlfriend's parents were travelling for the weekend so we had the house for ourselves. Saturday night, after some foreplay at the sofa, we went to her bed. She had said a couple times that she wanted me insed her, so licking and fingering was not the real desire. I put a condom and went for it, trying not to kegel. However it was quite hard to fight the contractions. I noticed several kegels. Changing positions did not actually work, I came within a few seconds. I felt as I hadn't make any progress... Then we chatted, she was very loving, tried to make me talk about that obvious problem but I was not receptive.

                              Some minutes after that she started to tease me again, rubbing her vagina upon my cock (a very good feeling), causing a lot of lubrification come out and very soon I recovered my bonner. She said I could enter her without a condom. It felt just amazing and very stimulating. I was on top, what made it harder for me to RK, but at least I could control the rhythm. I felt PONR approaching several times, but was able to fight it by slowing down and Kegeling and Reverse Kegeling, even if it was a very very hard task. Anyway, I guess I stayed there for something like 4-5 minutes, what felt amazing. She also loved it, what made me smile inside.

                              That is by itself a huge progress from my first time (when I came within seconds on the first and on the second rounds).


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                              The next day, after we got back from lunch, we started to make out on the sofa and soon our hands were on each others pants/panties. She said that if I started to stimulate her I'd have to end it up (And from that she ment penetration. Of course she noticed that I avoided penetration over the last few months, since my first time was so... embarrassing). But as I felt good about last nights experience, and feeling that my dick was a little tired, then less sensitive, I could have a chance of stroking her for a little longer... but I by no means expected what was to come.

                              It may sound like magic, but I could handle around 20-30 minutes of actual penetration! One condom! I was in heaven! She even asked "wont you come?" hahaha. And then she told me "you dont have to hold your orgasm, ok? you can come if you want". She on top was very nice for controlling the pelvic floor muscles, but it gave her too much control. Being on the side was the position that gave me most control. The worst one was doggy... :/ Missionary was hard too, but it was the position I choose (yes, dude. I had the option!) to finally cum. And it was great.


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                              So guys, I am very happy about it all. I feel that I still have a lot of work to do, but it is sure the right one to ride. I am still a 30-second-man, but I feel much more confortable with the idea of having sex and it really seems to make a huge difference. I plan on getting back on Edging regularly and continue my RK as usual. And of course, I plan on making more sex. It seems to be the best medicine to PremE. Thanks god I have such a loving gf.
                              MarcusHa
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                              Last edited by MarcusHa; 09-04-2012, 04:43 AM.

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