Reverse Kegel Breathing (Meditative Reverse Kegels)

[Pegasus]

How is your general level of anxiety/muscle tension Samurai?

[Samurai]

A reverse kegel, like a push, is recommended here as a means of relaxing into the arousal and keeping you from getting too excited. But I can see where too much would be giving you eq problems. Perhaps you could use that to your advantage by conciously performing a regular back pc (anus area) kegel on the inhale and then a concious reverse kegel on the exhale.

This is similar to the Tao technique of drawing energy up your body as you inhale and releasing it back down your body to your pelvic area as you exhale. Try it as an exercise outside of sex to see if you can feel a flow. I find that it works well for me but it took a while before I was able to relax into it and feel the movement.

Let me know if this works for you.

Thanks for the response!

Whatever you work at will work for you if you stick with it. Good luck!

Are you saying the back pc kegel is like a pulling up of the anus? Kind of like sucking up air(energy) up through the spine and the then down through the front of the body ending in a reverse kegel.

[Samurai]

Poor EQ can be a result of muscles that are too tense as well as muscles that are too weak. So if you're unconsciously tensing your muscles in an effort to maintain a good EQ the tension could be impeding proper blood flow or fatiguing the muscles causing a loss of EQ. Or if it's a case of weak muscles then straining to hold a reverse kegel for the whole time you're edging/masturbating could also be causing the loss of EQ.

I find that my EQ's at it's best when my muscles are in a relaxed neutral state. By that I mean a consistent 9-10, that's without forcing more blood in with a kegel.

If you're clenching that hard while masturbating then you must be slightly arching your pelvis for the bed causing the tension so I would suggest gentle rocking your pelvis from side to side sort of like you're rubbing your ass on the bed. If you keep your ass and your pelvis moving slowly then this should stop it from clenching up tight.

I can't remember the last time I was relaxed while masturbating. I can understand why my muscles would be involved when I having sex because of the thrusting motion but when masturbating the only thing that should be moving is my hand. So why the need for muscle clenching I don't know. All I know is that when I concentrate on relaxing, my eq seems to go down, i don't know why but if I clench for too long or do it for multiple days, then my eq falls too. I am going to try this rocking motion but the more noticable time of clenching is when I'm standing. This is when i really feel my muscles work because of a solid stance.

[Samurai]

How is your general level of anxiety/muscle tension Samurai?

Pegasus, I'm probably a tense type of person. I do have anxiety in my life now but I do feel like I hold it in my pelvic area a lot. This is not a recent thing though. I remember asking a work colleague about 10 years ago whether she clenched her butt cheeks when she was standing. I only asked her because I noticed that when i paid attention to my butt that I was subconciously clenching it. My eq was fine back then. Is exercise a bad thing for it also? I know you do or at least have lifted weights, do you think exercises like squats and leg presses are bad for tense pelvic muscles due to building muscle there?

[Pegasus]

Pegasus, I'm probably a tense type of person. I do have anxiety in my life now but I do feel like I hold it in my pelvic area a lot. This is not a recent thing though. I remember asking a work colleague about 10 years ago whether she clenched her butt cheeks when she was standing. I only asked her because I noticed that when i paid attention to my butt that I was subconciously clenching it. My eq was fine back then. Is exercise a bad thing for it also? I know you do or at least have lifted weights, do you think exercises like squats and leg presses are bad for tense pelvic muscles due to building muscle there?

Weights are not a problem in itself, but balance may be an issue, some stretching,massage perhaps. How is your ab strength? Pelvic aligment? A physio may be a good idea.

[Samurai]

Weights are not a problem in itself, but balance may be an issue, some stretching,massage perhaps. How is your ab strength? Pelvic aligment? A physio may be a good idea.

I've started a daily stretch routine and also bought a foam roller so I hope this helps. Abs strength is pretty healthy I guess. Pelvic alignment, haven't a clue. Haven't the money for a physio at the moment so thats out of the question.

[OldRocker]

Are you saying the back pc kegel is like a pulling up of the anus? Kind of like sucking up air(energy) up through the spine and the then down through the front of the body ending in a reverse kegel.

Samurai,

Precisely! The air (energy) follows where you put your attention. With practice you should be able to feel it move up into your head on the inhale and you can breath it out down the front of your body back to the pelvic area (at that point you may find that you are indeed doing a reverse kegel without even thinking about it).

Essentially, you are moving the sexual energy up and down your body rather than just keeping it focused in your penis. If you make a gutteral sound while on the exhale then you are moving into a KSMO Technique (Key Sound Multiple Orgasm). If you find it interresting you can Google it and find a forum discussion devoted solely to this practice. The idea here is to experience multiple orgasms without even going to the PONR, however, they will be more intense when you can move close to the PONR and just ride the wave without going over the top.

If you can't find it PM me and I will send you a link.

This may also help you moving the tensness out of your pelvic area because it is a clench and relax exercise.

All the best! Regards!

[bautista19]

Imac, I began this a couple days ago, and I have found it very relaxing during just meditating on my back, as well during masturbation. Of course it's only been three days and I don't expect much progress to be made in the bedroom with it yet, but I am confident this could be the final frontier in curing my prem ej for good. I've gotten killer EQ back, I have an understanding wife, and now I just need to relieve stress and combat arousal levels.

[bautista19]

Bump this up. With eliminating stress and meditating (day dreaming) or letting your mind wander has helped me tremendously.

[imac]

I'm interested to here from any guys who have being trying this technique for a while or any guys who are willing to try it and give me feedback as to whether it has any affect on your mental arousal during sex by reducing stress and anxiety and generally being more relaxed.