The “Average Overall Arousal” Theory (AOA)

[Drummer19]

I would happily apply for this, reverse kegel (even tho i never got to feel that i made them right) and normals kegels didnt work for me about 1 year ago, so i went into some sort of depression of porn (I watched porn almost everyday), i really need a change in my habits, and if they will help with my pe, so be it. I need this and so all the girls i'll eventually bang. Where do I sign.

By the way, is there any way i can keep exercises? i know you want no arousal, but I could certainly kegel and rkegel without an erection.

On the other poart i want to make a share for this post, It really happens than when you stop watching porn and masturbating every day, and u get to masturbate like once a week, your needs change, I forgot about the existance of porn and the need for climax, but I didnt felt any change in my PE, Except for the well being sensation, wich I also get when I'm having good days and I'm relaxed. I hope there is a way to prove that sustain low arousal over time helps.

Ok sounds good. If you want continue the kegals and reverse kegals go ahead. Be sure to include this information in your weekly log.
How long of a time frame did you go stopping porn and lessening masturbation last time?

Understand that this theory is the final portion of the arousal techniques thread. The reason for you trying this out is to see what works better: Doing the arousal techniques program then the AOA reduction, or just skipping into AOA. You are going to be taking the path to skip into the AOA, unless you have already done some sort of arousal training before..

[Kekewak]

lasted around 3 months, not much, no sex. but the effect i felt of lowered arousal was big. I haven't done any arousal techniques though i do know them, my arousal control is somewhat bad, I'm easily stimulated, i.e: even with hugs i've gotten erections, friendly hugs.. what a shame.
The weekly log, where do I keep it, should I create a post?

[JamesMonroe]

lasted around 3 months, not much, no sex. but the effect i felt of lowered arousal was big. I haven't done any arousal techniques though i do know them, my arousal control is somewhat bad, I'm easily stimulated, i.e: even with hugs i've gotten erections, friendly hugs.. what a shame.
The weekly log, where do I keep it, should I create a post?

Be happy u get erections easily. It's worse not to be able to get it up. You might be a strong candidate for my "sex right away, directly after cumming" technique. It makes you last long and pump fast and hard like porn star. Try it one day. You will be surprised. I thought I had a 10 min refractory period. NOT TRUE!

[Kekewak]

yes indeed I'm a young 18 years old man with tons of energy, the second and third ride are mounstruous for me, but I want my first to be like that, it's a pain in the ass changing condoms, plus turns the woman a little bit off. second and third rides for young people (generally) is what we aspire to have sex like the first time.

[SRuel3216]

Drummer and message eachother a lot. We both cured ourselves of prem ejac at about the same time.
We went about it in different ways but we do have a few things in common. We both realized that even though a lot of the things weekends and did here because of the pegym, it wasn't until we both pretty much completely stopped masturbating and edging and all other exercises that we started noticing a difference. the difference between us is that he stopped everything including real sex and I stopped everything a d started having constant sex. Bit we both stopped pleasuring ourselves when we started getting rid of our prem ejac. Yes, we both stopped watching a d masturbating to porn and also stopped masturbating and edging completely. He feels he lasts longer because of that and I feel I last longer because of that AND because I got slowly used to real sex too. We have both moved on since then. Things are different now. He had sex now without a problem and I have sex now without a problem. The difference is now I'm testing my "death grip theory" which seems to be getting rid of hypersensitivity and involuntary kegels/spasms and I'm even doing it while watching porn again, which hasn't affected me during sex yet.(knock on wood). But like I'm sure Drummer19 agrees.... you guys should all follow what pegym suggests at the beginning and keep it up. We nota starter on all that stuff and owe much credit to reverse kegels regular kegels, arousal control techniques, edging, no porn, jelqing, etc....
Do all kinds of things guys.... find your own path too, but also listen to what we say cuz it has worked.
For me personally it was very bars training with reverse kegels, no porn, edging/ballooning combo, jelqing, lube, no lube, Death grip and slowly getting used to the most intense sexual positions during real constant sex with a patient, caring sex partner. Infact, I still had prem ejac even after all the pegym exercises and techniques. It wasn't till I practiced with real sex when I found the total cure and my axiety went way down and my confidence went way up. BUT, the pegym techniques did work.... They are helpful and fundamental. It is your backbone. Good luck.

I think my problem is hypersensitivity. right under my head is so sensitive (circumcised since birth) and touching there makes me kegel when i dont want to. Il check out your death grip thread because whenever i am jerking off and use a tight grip around my head, i kegel so much and its hard to stop. Even if i am relaxed and reverse kegel.

I dont post much here but i read a lot. I control my breathing most of the time which helps some. however i feel like my main issue is just over sensitivity. its been like that forever.

any other ideas?

[Kekewak]

well I'm no professional but I do read a lot about the subject, Slow breathing and slow heartbeat keep you in Parasympathic state, so breathing slow and keeping calm will avoid you to get to cum (that's sympathic state). nevertheless u keep calm the stimulation in your head will make you cum eventually, you should be able to resist stimulation like you can practice to lower the pain, It's about rewiring the sensitivity of the nervous terminals in your penis head. thing that should help are making your masturbation session "MUCH" more longer than the usual, so it gets used to be under stimulation without getting out of control, I dont know how edging works, but many people claim it does, so it should help, and definitly will help to make your session longer.

For what I know, balloing is desgined to make your head more resistant to stimulation..

well that's what i know from the nervous's system perspective. good luck

[JamesMonroe]

I think my problem is hypersensitivity. right under my head is so sensitive (circumcised since birth) and touching there makes me kegel when i dont want to. Il check out your death grip thread because whenever i am jerking off and use a tight grip around my head, i kegel so much and its hard to stop. Even if i am relaxed and reverse kegel.

I dont post much here but i read a lot. I control my breathing most of the time which helps some. however i feel like my main issue is just over sensitivity. its been like that forever.

any other ideas?

I'm circumsized too but that spot is not that sensitive at all! My spot is right on their middle/top of my head. I suggest you stroke and run your penis your most sensitive spots and try to slowly get used to it. Time yourself and go 30sec-1min more each time.

[JamesMonroe]

I'm circumsized too but that spot is not that sensitive at all! My spot is right on their middle/top of my head. I suggest you stroke and run your penis your most sensitive spots and try to slowly get used to it. Time yourself and go 30sec-1min more each time.

*rub, not run.

[Smu]

I'm about a week into this. I have been porn free for some time now though (maybe about two months), but I have been frequently been looking at arousing material (pictures of nude women etc), which I have now eliminated from my life.

I can already see my arousal dropping.
I only edged once during this week, didn't even feel like doing it more.

No urges to watch porn, some urges to watch pictures though, but I'm positive that will fade over time.

[SRuel3216]

I'm about a week into this. I have been porn free for some time now though (maybe about two months), but I have been frequently been looking at arousing material (pictures of nude women etc), which I have now eliminated from my life.

I can already see my arousal dropping.
I only edged once during this week, didn't even feel like doing it more.

No urges to watch porn, some urges to watch pictures though, but I'm positive that will fade over time.

I feel the same way lately. however, will arousal go crazy high when a sexual encounter begins since one would not be use to it and overwhelmed?