Sameel's Log

10th Month Log

Regular Kegel Routine: More than 500 since last 3 weeks ... doing an rk and turning it into a regular kegel helps the most.
Reverse Kegel Rountime: About 500 rk's of various durations + deep breathing since last 7-8 months
Involutary Kegel or spasams: Don't experience involuntary kegels or spasams anymore during edging ... these appear to be fixed.
Current Focus: DO - Can do DO successfully, sometimes fail to hold ... seems like a timing problem ...

03-01-2013
Edged for 20 minutes and ejaculated. One successful DO. At PONR, started doing kegels and then successfully hold. Felt a good orgasm today. After a couple of minutes tried second DO but ejaculated. Seems a timing problem.

Second session: Edged for 35 minutes with lube without ejaculation, again a DO with just little cum dribbled, kind of partial ejaculate. Then stopped after while. Quite high stroke rate: about hundred strokes per minute. EQ remained little low for first 10 or so.

03-02-2013
Edged for 20 minutes without ejaculation. Two successful DO's.
Second session: Edged for 15 minutes without ejaculation. No PONR reached. Then stopped.

03-03-2013
Balooned for 20 minutes and then edged for 10 minutes with lube and ejaculated. Arousal became out of control today.

03-04-2013
Edged for 45 minutes without ejaculation. Arousal remained in control.

03-05-2013
Sex session last 25 minutes.

03-07-2013
Edged for 15 minutes with fast speed. Was able to do a DO. Then within a minute 2nd ponr and just stopped.
Completed 4 Weeks of regular kegel routine

03-09-2013
Edged for 20 minutes with lube. Able to hold one successful DO. On the second DO, ejaculated. Kegel hold was little loose.

03-10-2013
Edged for 15 minutes with lube. Able to hold one successful DO. On the second DO, partially ejaculated but after aminute went soft.

03-11-2013
Did 30 strokes of slow jelqing with lube. Then EQ became quite high. Then edged for about 7 minutes and did strong regular kegels while stroking and tried to hold a DO at PONR but spasams were very strong and I just ejaculated.

03-12-2013
Did 100 strokes of jelqing with oil then followed by 100 strokes of tight grip intense stroking. EQ became high, did some regular kegels and then stopped due to shortage of time.

Second Session: Edged with saliva without ejaculation for 25 minutes. Mainly focused the strokes on sweet spots (head, frenulum and carola), kind of balooning.

03-13-2013
Jelqing 100 strokes. Then edged for 15 minutes with oil. Able to hold a DO. Felt a good orgasam but able to hold somehow with hard kegel.

03-14-2013
Jelqing 100 strokes. Then edged for 15 minutes with mustard oil without ejaculation.
Completed 5 Weeks of regular kegel routine [500k, 500 rk].

03-15-2013
Jelqing 100 strokes. Then edged for 10 minutes. Felt horney and steel hard erection. Used very tight grip strokes and twists around head, frenulum etc. Felt involuntary pulstating again today.
I have noticed that lubricants (other than saliva) raise the arousal immediately ...

03-16-2013
Jelqing 100 strokes. Then edged for 10 minutes or so and ejaculated unvoluntarity while twisting the penis.

03-18-2013
Jelqing 100 strokes. Twisted the head and frenulum. Noticed that pushing the penis toward base caused some involuntary spasams. Hopefully will fix it in few days.
Second session: Edged for 30 minutes without ejaculation. 63 strokes per minute. Edging remained quite under control. Still noticed that stroking while standing or fanticizing raises arousal immediately.

03-19-2013
Edged 25 minutes mainly by focusing on the head, frenulum etc. Stopped at PONR by holding kegel.

03-21-2013
Edged 10 minutes with lube and ejaculated. Was able to hold a couple of times. Tried to hold a DO but ejaculated.
Before that I edged dry for more than half an hour or so.
Completed 6th Week of regular kegel routine.

03-22-2013
Edged 20 minutes with lube and ejaculated. Was able to hold on first DO. Then second urge after a minute or so and ejaculated trying to hold.

03-25-2013
Edged for 10 minutes barely with lube and ejaculated. Point or no return came early. Ejaculated trying DO but could not hold.

03-26-2013
Jelqing 70 strokes. Edged for 15 minutes with lube and ejaculated. Ejaculated trying DO but could not hold. I think I should refrain trying DO thing.

03-28-2013
Edged for 1 hour without ejaculation. First 45 minutes edged dry. Then used saliva. Overall good experience today.
I have never edged dry but this was my first dry session as it is suggested by James in death grip thread.
EQ was quite high today, may be it was due to multivitamin supplements I have started taking since 2-3 days.

Completed 7th Week of regular kegel routine. Now I am focusing more on rk than regular kegel

03-30-2013
Edged for 30 minutes with lube without ejaculation. EQ was quite high.

03-31-2013
Edged for few minutes and then ejaculated trying DO. Reached PONR quickly.

Summary:
This month's edging sessions were not good I think I was doing regular kegal and trying DO. This month first PONR was coming quite quickly. Erections were not spontaneous. Started taking multivitamin tables last week and erections are almost becoming spontaneous now.
Taking calcium+vitamin C is quite helpful in getting me sleep ...

11th Month Log

Focus on reverse kegal and regular kegal.
Can hold a DO, sometimes ejaculate a little. But the feeling of orgasm is not that good. When I clench a kegel, it also shuts down the orgasm. It does not lower the arousal unless I stop for 30 seconds or so and then continue ...

04-01-2013
Ballooning for 15 minutes and then a successful DO. Stopped after that. Prior to that, I did dry stroking for more than half an hour. I was getting spontaneous erections today.

04-02-2013
Sex session ... used little desensitizing spray. Went for 15 minutes or so.
Second session was masturbation after 3-4 hours. Continuously stroked with high speed and lubrication for may be 10 minutes and then ejaculated.

04-04-2013
Edged for 10 minutes ... penis started pulsating little early ... kept on stroking and held breaks ... DO with just little ejaculate ... then stroked for another minute or so ... another DO thing with little ejaculate ... then stopped.
Did ballooning for 30 minutes while kegaling at the same time.

04-05-2012
Edged for 15 minutes and then ejaculated trying DO.

04-10-2012
Ballooning for half an hour, then tried DO. Partially ejaculated.

04-14-2012
Edged for 5 minutes with oil and ejaculated ... orgasm was so strong that I could not hold it ... oil and standing position increases arousal uncontrollably.

04-15-2012
Edged for 35 minutes with lube without ejaculation. First urge came within 5 minutes of full length strokes while standing then it subsided as I sit down. Then continued with very high stroke rate. About 85 strokes per minute. Finally stopped. Overall good session.

Took one Zyrtec tablet 3 hours before as I was expecting sex today.

04-16-2012
Had Sex. Good control.

04-18-2012
Edged for half an hour without ejaculation.

04-20-2012
Edged for 15 minutes, then ejaculated trying DO.

04-22-2012
Edged for 20 minutes without ejaculation.

04-24-2012
First Session: Edged for 10 minutes and ejaculated.
Second Session: Edged for 20 minutes with quite good speed, without ejaculation.

04-25-2012
Ballooned dry for half an hour. Then added pictures, did some reg kegals at PONR. Felt like cuming and stopped with little precum. It was kind of dry orgasm. Then stopped for few minutes and did edging for 10 minutes or so. Felt 3 multiple orgasms (with little ejaculation with each orgasm). Was able to stop orgasm after first spasm.

04-27-2012
Edged for 20 minutes dry ...

04-28-2012
Edged for 20 minutes, ejaculated playing with PONR.

04-29-2012
Edged for 20 minutes.

04-30-2012
Good session for half an hour with good control even with high speed. Then 3 orgasms. Interesting thing was that I did not have to hold a hard kegal for it, somehow the ejaculation reflex was easily stoppable.

12th Month Log

Focus on reverse kegal long holds and deep breathing
Arousal Control: Most of the time edging sessions are quite stable. Just thinking to add some visual stimuli to edging this month. Visual stimuli still raises the arousal very rapidly.

05-01-2012
Good edging session for 25 minutes with quite high speed. Seems like the the urge to ejaculate is much under control even thinking the sexy things during edging.

05-02-2012
Edged for 20 minutes.

05-03-2012
Edged for 15 minutes. Ejaculated trying DO.

05-04-2013
Had sex session, used very little desensitizer + 300 mg gabapentin tabs. Lasted 40 minutes despite trying several times to cum.

05-05-2013
Did dry for an hour or so. Despite the feeling of urge, Was able to last even with the very high speed edging.

05-07-2013
Edged with lube for 15 minutes with a successful DO and then final orgasm.

05-08-2013
Edged with lube for 10 minutes. Ejaculated trying DO.

05-11-2013
Ballooning and edging for half an hour or so with DO.

05-12-2013
Ballooning dry for few times -- with DO.
Interesting thing is that I bring myself to PONR and then stop. Then try to maintain the arousal at PONR. Sometimes the ejaculation reflex happens and stop it with just keeping it relax or a regular kegal. And feel the little orgasm. I don't know how much more practice is needed to make it perfect.

05-13-2013
Ballooning for half an hour.

05-14-2013
Ballooning for an hour or so with a couple of DO's. Seems like I can get orgasm now with little fluid out of my penis. I don't Kegal. Rather I keep it relaxed when I reach PONR. The orgasm feeling happens and after the first spasm, I clench the Kegal.

05-15-2013
Edged for 10 minutes with lube and did a couple of DO's. Went flaccid after of the last orgasm.

05-16-2013
Edged for half an hour including ballooning. Again experienced DO. Interesting it is becoming dry day by day.

05-17-2013
Ballooning dry for half an hour. Kept myself over the edge for 5 minutes or so. Then felt DO. Though I was hard after the orgasm, but I stopped.

05-18-2013
Ballooning and edging for 30 minutes with a couple of DO's. Ejaculated in the end.

05-19-2013
Edged for 35 minutes with lube. Quite high stroke rate. Good control.

05-20-2013
Edged dry for 15 minutes. Experienced a couple of DO's. Ejaculated partially with last DO.

05-21-2013
Edged dry for more than 1 hour. Then edged for about 20 minutes with saliva. Experienced 2 DO's. Then the final orgasm and ejaculation.

05-24-2013
Edged with lube for 15 minutes or so with 2-3 partial orgasms.

05-29-2013
Edged with lube for 15 minutes. Was able to control arousal with slow edging. At the end ejaculated but the urge was still there. Then stopped.

05-30-2012
Sex session for 20 minutes. Applied little desensitizing spray then washed it out. EQ was little low. Changing positions worked.

Summary
This month I started partial ejaculation. I can partially ejaculate and orgasm 2-3 times easily. Just relax after the PONR and do some rk etc., then I am able to go for a second round. Hopefully I am on track of mmo.

13th Month Log

Focus on reverse kegal long holds and deep breathing, trying mmo daily.

06-04-2013
Edged for 7-8 minutes. Partially ejaculated. Then another 3 minutes of edging and then ejaculated.

06-05-2013
First session: edged for 10 minutes, partially ejaculated and orgasamed 2 times. Then 2nd session after 15 minutes or so. Again partially ejaculated and orgasamed first time. Then continued edging and felt DO after 5 minutes. Overall good day.

06-10-2013
Edged for 15 minutes or so. One perfect DO by clenching regular kegal. Then stopped for 30 seconds or so and resumed. After 5 minutes or so final orgasm and then went soft.

06-11-2013
Edged for 15 minutes or so, 1 perfect DO and 2 partial ejaculations. Fantastic!

06-12-2013
Edged for 10 minutes with 1 DO.

06-14-2013
Edged for 15 minutes with 1 DO. Second partial ejaculation. Was still hard afterwards but EQ was lower and I felt kind of satisfied. Left the edging session.

06-15-2013
Edged for 20 minutes.

06-16-2013
Edged for 20 minutes continuously. Control was good. Tried DO but partially ejaculated. Then stopped.

06-18-2013
Edged dry for about half an hour.

06-19-2013
Edged dry for 10 minutes by tight grip with fingers and sliding the skin with a lot of pressure. Ejaculated in a try to do a DO.

06-27-2013
Edged ... 3 multiple orgasms. Finally ejaculated.

06-28-2013
Edged dry, kind of ballooning for half an hour. Changed the rk technique and it worked well to decrease arousal significantly without stopping stroking.

Hi sameel,

I've got a question about your first post and the deathrgrip you used in month 2 to get rid of 90% of your involuntary kegels. I was wondering how you got rid of the involuntary kegels by deathgrip. Could you give me an explanation of how you used deathgrip to get rid of the involuntary kegels, did you do it each day, for how long each time etc.?

workingout+1
Nice log, would love to see also an update, how is your progress.

Hi Workingout,

I used oil as lubricant. On the first day of deathgrip, ejaculated only after 3 or 4 strokes.

In the next session I started doing 3-4 hard and quick reverse kegals after each stroke as a "competing response". And after just few sessions, I got used to intense strokes and within a week or so I was able to do 15 intense strokes without doing any rk's. Within 15 days, I noticed that my arousal and EQ levels were becoming low, it was hard to maintain erection without intense stroking, and I was able to last as long as I wanted without doing any rk. Therefore, I had to loosen up the grip.

I was doing 30-40 minutes of edging once or twice daily. I was very confident and happy with the progress during edging.

And then on one day, I decided to try it with the real thing ... I ejaculated within 30 seconds ... and that was complete failure! Clearly the issue was more mental than physical. Then I stopped doing the death grip, but still continued edging, rk's and kegals etc.

Somehow, I was not able to overcome the mental arousal. Just a couple of months back, I started using multivitamins, iron etc., and my mental level is in control now and I am able to have sex. Still the first PONR comes within 1 minute or so but I can manage it with reverse kegals and stop/start. I can do it now for 30-40 minutes or so.

Summary:
1. Deathgrip alone is not enough. You must focus on rk's with deep breathing. For me hard & quick rk resets the muscles. I currently do 600 hard rk's and 100-200 regular kegals daily.

2. Don't underestimate the power of multivitamins. If you have lifelong premature ejaculation and anxiety, your system is surely deficient in some kind of essential nutrient.

I hope this will help others.

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Originally Posted by Workingout

Hi sameel,

I've got a question about your first post and the deathrgrip you used in month 2 to get rid of 90% of your involuntary kegels. I was wondering how you got rid of the involuntary kegels by deathgrip. Could you give me an explanation of how you used deathgrip to get rid of the involuntary kegels, did you do it each day, for how long each time etc.?

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Originally Posted by sameel

Hi Workingout,

I used oil as lubricant. On the first day of deathgrip, ejaculated only after 3 or 4 strokes.

In the next session I started doing 3-4 hard and quick reverse kegals after each stroke as a "competing response". And after just few sessions, I got used to intense strokes and within a week or so I was able to do 15 intense strokes without doing any rk's. Within 15 days, I noticed that my arousal and EQ levels were becoming low, it was hard to maintain erection without intense stroking, and I was able to last as long as I wanted without doing any rk. Therefore, I had to loosen up the grip.

I was doing 30-40 minutes of edging once or twice daily. I was very confident and happy with the progress during edging.

And then on one day, I decided to try it with the real thing ... I ejaculated within 30 seconds ... and that was complete failure! Clearly the issue was more mental than physical. Then I stopped doing the death grip, but still continued edging, rk's and kegals etc.

Somehow, I was not able to overcome the mental arousal. Just a couple of months back, I started using multivitamins, iron etc., and my mental level is in control now and I am able to have sex. Still the first PONR comes within 1 minute or so but I can manage it with reverse kegals and stop/start. I can do it now for 30-40 minutes or so.

Summary:
1. Deathgrip alone is not enough. You must focus on rk's with deep breathing. For me hard & quick rk resets the muscles. I currently do 600 hard rk's and 100-200 regular kegals daily.

2. Don't underestimate the power of multivitamins. If you have lifelong premature ejaculation and anxiety, your system is surely deficient in some kind of essential nutrient.

I hope this will help others.

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Thanks! two more question, you did reverse kegels after an involuntary kegels right, not during or before? How did you deathgrip, because people have their own variants?

When I got started with deathgrip, almost every lubricated stroke resulted in an involuntary kegal. Therefore, I used to do 4-6 quick rk's after each stroke. This is how I have done.

I don't know what do you mean by different variants of deathgrip. I have been doing quite intense strokes and thrusts with oil.

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Originally Posted by Workingout

Thanks! two more question, you did reverse kegels after an involuntary kegels right, not during or before? How did you deathgrip, because people have their own variants?

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Hi sameel awesome posts. Thanks for that. You say 600 rks daily, so how do you divide them per day.